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sorcerorkyle
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posted December 10, 2001 07:04 PM |
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i think ratings should be taken off, (for threads)
i think when someone get a rating like unrelateed, or something bad, i wouldn't want to go into it, so i think that those should be taken off.
plus one person's opinion is different from others, like i might think a thread is awesome, but RMS or whoever rates the posts, might think it's stupid and say something bad about it, and i think that sucks
GGRRRR
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 10, 2001 08:09 PM |
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If you only mean what you said, the cure for you would be ignoring them. I myself like it when people rate my threads 'important' or 'interesting'.
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Milena
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posted December 10, 2001 09:59 PM |
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I agree with him
I don't feel particularly happy when my topic is rated average and I also think it's quite subjective but you feel great when they give you a QP and rate your stuff as important or interesting. :-)
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rogue
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posted December 10, 2001 10:57 PM |
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well
I think thread ratings should stay because if a thread is rated "interesting" or something, it should be pointed out.
I also don't rate based on what I think of it, but what I think the forum will think about it. There are many threads I currently don't have the time, energy, or interest to participate in, but I do recognize good ideas when I see them.
I don't see what's bad about a thread being rated "average", but I never rate threads average myself. If I think a thread is average, it's not really worth the effort of even giving it a rating. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with "average". You can't expect every word you type to be laced with genius.
...unless you're me. 
I actually don't rare threads very often though. I just read them. I've probably only given about 5 threads a rating since I became a Mod.
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Preserver
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posted December 10, 2001 11:18 PM |
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I can't see the bad thing in rating a thread 'unrelated'.
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malkia
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posted December 11, 2001 12:04 AM |
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I guess maybe he's right about saying what topic is good or not. It's not moderator job to judge how given thread is good or bad. It's his job to ban or stop it - but not to rate it or criticize it. With simple words - Moderator is not a Critic.
On the other side - people who don't care about what moderators think is good or bad - will visit all sites. The ones who think that moderator is smarter than them - will be lead only what he thought is appropriate.
Za Stalinu - Za Rodinu!
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RMS
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posted December 11, 2001 12:29 AM |
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...I don't see what the problem is...average isn't a bad thing, and neither is unrelated...
...that's all I have to say...
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rogue
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posted December 11, 2001 01:12 AM |
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Edited By: rogue on 10 Dec 2001
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paranoia...
In a not too distant future, mankind is on the verge of destruction. The humans that remain fight endlessly for what little water, food, and hard drive space remains.
Meanwhile, in their floating black citadels, the ones known as "Moderators" seek to control the thoughts of the humans who dwell on the surface. What they read, what they think, who they like, who they dislike. The moderators seek total control of all thought patterns, and they will not stop until every thread of conciousness has been rated appropriately, knowing the masses will agree with the judgements they hand down.
However, in a small grove in a deep forest lies the opposition. A band of rebels who demand free thought and will not sit idly by and be subjected to the Moderators and their reign of tyranny....
Oh, hi guys! I think some of you are taking this a bit too far, (like most things). I don't really care what threads are rated myself, and I'm just a guy posting here like all of you. No need to think of us moderators as some supreme beings who are trying to control what you say, feel, and do.
*shrug*
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Oldtimer
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posted December 11, 2001 06:56 PM |
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The question about ratings should be what do they actually mean. Every thread should probably be rated so we know that the mods have seen them.
If you rate something "Important" it should actually be about something that is actually "Important" for the members of HC to read. I always look at a thread rated "Important" and if it is just spam I start to wonder what the mods are thinking.
If the thread is Rated "Interesting" I give it a look see, but alot of times it was potentially interesting but then got spammed to death, then I would hope that the mods could rerate it to "Average".
I think most threads should be rated "Average" because average means normal, and by definition most threads will be there.
"Unrelated" should be for threads that are not related to the forum that they are in. This rating probably should not be used in the Tavern, because by definition the Tavern is a collection of unrelated threads.
A new rating should be be instituted, one that reflects below average, or just plain bad threads. I not sure what the rating would be. Possibly "Needs Improvement"
Another new rating could be "Bizarre" for those threads that are good but are really out there.
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rogue
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posted December 11, 2001 08:54 PM |
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Edited By: rogue on 11 Dec 2001
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Yes, that's very similar to what I was thinking.
Granted, I said "thinking" not doing. I normally don't rate threads, but I was thinking it would be good if RMS and myself agreed to a standard to rate things on.
I also agree that unrelated shouldn't really be in the tavern for the most part, because the only threads that could get that rating would be spam, and that gets deleted anyway. Well... it *should*... I've been busy myself, but I intend to un-spam a lot of the good threads that have been ruined since I'll be done with school on Thursday.
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UnkaHaakon
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posted December 11, 2001 09:00 PM |
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I have to admit, I don't do a lot of thread rating on the Altar. If I assign a Quality Bonus, I will jump the rating up to 'Inspiring', to tag it for others to read. "Unrelated" gets used once in a while, as do 'Interesting' and 'Important', but for the most part, no rating means 'Average' from me.
I don't think there's any stigma attached to any particular thread rating. It's not like we have a "ack! what were you thinking when you posted this?" rating.
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RMS
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posted December 12, 2001 12:17 AM |
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...hmm, well whenever I remember to I try to rerate threads as they change, but sometimes I forget...kinda like how I want to award a few QPs here and there, after a few more replies have been made, but I usually end up forgetting about them 
...as pretty much the only one who rates threads on a regular basis, I'm not trying to control anybody's thoughts. You can feel whatever way you want about a thread, whether it's a bit off from what I believe or totally off. I'm just trying to offer a general and different viewpoint. Of course no opinion comes without bias, but I try to rate them fairly. Important is usually something that has something to do with the board itself, or be a major impact to the majority of posters most of the time. However, there are a few of them that could probably be downgraded to simply interesting, but is it that bad? With the inspiring rating, most often those are the ones with sure fire QPs awarded to them, or it's something that I feel to be a great new and unique idea that has much potential. Yet, there is also the interesting threads, which up until recently would just be those that contain fresh new ideas, and have some thought related to them, but don't come out as that strong. With the average, that by no means makes it a bad thread. It just means that it may not be all that exiting, and that it may include a great deal of ideas already previously introduced. Lately, I've been trying to mark a larger percentage of posts as that if I thought that it really belongs there, because indeed average means that it's like most other threads...and if most threads are generally interesting, I have little choice but to keep more of the truly "interesting" ones rated as such. That last rating that I have to pick from, is the "unrelated" rating...for me, it simply serves the function of various other ratings that I cannot give. Yes, the Tavern is for just about any and all topics, but when I rate them that, it's usually one that's filled with spam, contains little that is useful to most people, stuff that's being marked for nearly sure fire deletion, to make cleaning up the archives easier.
...of course, they're not always accurate, and sometimes I don't bother changing them even if that occurs to me...if you strongly feel that I have given any totally unfair ratings, then please do tell me about it, and if I'm convinced, I might change it
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Wyvern
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posted December 13, 2001 11:02 AM |
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By the way... it's funny when two different moderators judge one and the same thread... My great (according to me) thread "Mystery" was rated "average". I thought "OK, so people are not interested in this). A few months later the thread suddenly appeared and I had a Quality Point! I don't think that the rating and the point were made by the same person. I also don't know other cases when the thread is "average" but it is awarded a Quality Point...
Another strange thing that I have noticed is that sometimes moderators rate their own threads... The more modest ones give themselves "unrelated" rating but I have seen also threads by moderators with "inspiring" rating!
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malkia
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Famous Hero
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posted December 13, 2001 11:06 AM |
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Thread rating should be INFORMATIVE or CENSORSHIPPED - but not to be MODERATOR-OPINIONED. We don't need to know what moderator thinks of some thread - or we may not know the truth But moderator is there to CENSOR given threads. Or to give them DESCRIPTION - but not RATE them as how good or bad they are in terms of content written.
So UNRELATED really goes well with that - but other than that ;(
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Hexa
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posted December 13, 2001 11:14 AM |
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Perhaps we should take this back to its origin.
If assume we are living (on HC) in a democracy it would be right to assume that our leaders speak for the entire population/community.
In other words, I guess we should have a MOD election. That way people won’t have to complain anymore about things like this thread because the mods will be the one with our vision (just like in RL politics like these won’t work but I wanted to say it anyway).
Oke let’s run our election campaign ….
[Hexa wanders off to find some sponsors for his campaign]
LMAO
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Nickman77
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posted December 13, 2001 04:31 PM |
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I think some people have registered here for QPs and ratings.
If you don`t like rating, don`t look at them.
Maybe members would choose rating for their threads.
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haile73
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posted December 14, 2001 10:18 AM |
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umm.. wasn't this thread about ratings?
Question to whoever it may concern:
why has the Best Movies thread an "average" rating, while Bad Movies are "interesting"?
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malkia
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Famous Hero
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posted December 14, 2001 10:32 AM |
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Quote:
Question to whoever it may concern:
why has the Best Movies thread an "average" rating, while Bad Movies are "interesting"?
whoever, please answer the question, please? i'm interrested, pardon me, averaged too!
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darkspirit
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aka Zutus
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posted December 14, 2001 12:37 PM |
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If you only mean what you said, the cure for you would be ignoring them. I myself like it when people rate my threads 'important' or 'interesting'.
yeah like a thread about you finally starting to play HOMM3, that's one very important thread...
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Lord_Woock
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posted December 14, 2001 01:00 PM |
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It IS rated as IMPORTANT? I can't believe it! And many of you might say I'm a weirdo cuz I make it loud that I upgraded to H3 so late. Others will say that's a very important thread. They know me as the one that loves the classic while saying Heroes3 sux. And I still think so. I'll switch back whenever HoMM2 will be up and running again.
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