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landsknecht
landsknecht


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posted February 08, 2009 06:19 PM

Poll Question:
Magic system

Which systems do you you want to see in Heroes 6?

I must confess although i want to see Chinese systems (5 elements instead of 4), i also think using Might and Magic 6-8 one is also cool (although it might require Mage Guild makeover )... However. one thing for certain....

Heroes 5 systems are rather confusing!

Responses:
Indian Elemental System (as in Heroes3)
Chinese Elemental System (Earth, Water, Wood, Fire, Metal)
Purposive systems (As in Heroes 5)
Might and Magic 6-8 system (Indian Elemental Systems + Clerical system + D&L
Chinese Elemental System + Yin and Yang
Racial systems (as in Heroes4)
Other (Think which one will workss)
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Warmonger
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posted February 08, 2009 06:25 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 18:31, 08 Feb 2009.

Should people be given rights because of their sex, race or beliefs? There were hundreds of systems to hadle this question, but none of them turned out to be right at the end. You should start from creation, not separation.

Don't care how you name it, it has to be playable and consistent. The perfect example is sphere designed by Alcibiades some months ago. He aimed at balanced and flexible system and he got it, there is no single flaw in his creation.

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landsknecht
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posted February 08, 2009 06:31 PM

Did i have "racism" intentions in this?
no

I'm trying to "name" the magical systems

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Warmonger
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posted February 08, 2009 06:36 PM

I just try to point out that poll like this won't give us any better system.

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landsknecht
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posted February 08, 2009 06:38 PM

i'm not saying Which one is "Better" system. I'm saying which system do you want to see in the  HoMM6 ?

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Warmonger
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posted February 08, 2009 06:43 PM

But what is the actual difference?

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MattII
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posted February 08, 2009 08:41 PM

First choice should be Indian/Greek/Buddist/Japanese, although those ones are also technically 5 element systems (they all have aether or some equivalent, but this is often ignored). Choice 5 should also not be in, Yin/Yang is a concept of duality, and so does not technically belong here.

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Homer171
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posted February 08, 2009 09:45 PM

Indian Elemental System sounds most enjoyable for me. H5 magic schools are alright but i prefered Heroes 3; Water, Air, Earth and Fire as the simple elements.
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Asheera
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posted February 08, 2009 10:18 PM
Edited by Asheera at 22:18, 08 Feb 2009.

I'd like a system with Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Light, and Darkness, which makes it six elements.
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Mamgaeater
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posted February 08, 2009 10:26 PM

I like the idea of racial magics.
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MattII
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posted February 09, 2009 12:55 AM

Other. I'd like a mix of H4 and H5, Purposive schools, but with a number of Racial spells (Fireball is fairly universal but Death Cloud would be Necro only, for example)

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Asheera
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posted February 09, 2009 01:20 AM

Quote:
(Fireball is fairly universal but Death Cloud would be Necro only, for example)
And Raise Dead as well... I always thought that spell should be available only to Necros.
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MattII
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posted February 09, 2009 02:16 AM

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And Raise Dead as well... I always thought that spell should be available only to Necros.
Agreed, although I also think that you should be able to raise higher level creatures with increased mastery (eg, only Skeletons for no mastery, but right up to Vampires at Expert).

Other Racial Spellers would be things like Holy Strike (Haven specific, weak but does double damage to Elemental, Mechanical, Undead  and Demonic Creatures) And Inferno (Inferno specific, does massive fire damage to all squares in a x*x area, where x is 4-7 depending on mastery)

Nor would racial spells be limited to destruction (Fire Shield for example would be an Inferno only spell, whereas Haven would get Counterstrike, and Academy would get Arcane Armour).

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Malgore
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posted February 09, 2009 08:13 AM

Purposive system of magic is great. The only I would suggest is the addition of few exclusive racial spells for each school.

For example Death Ripple and mentioned Raise Dead should be available to Dark energy wielders. And so on.

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razor5
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posted February 09, 2009 03:17 PM

The H3 system was a good one,but I didn't find anything "Indian" in it  The Ying-Yang one can be intresting to see it,but only if in H6 will be an Asian faction

But I go for the H5 one

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Lexxan
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posted February 09, 2009 03:19 PM

One spell school per town.
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DarkCrystal
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posted February 09, 2009 03:23 PM

No one of them. I'd like to see a magic system like in AoW II: Water, Fire, Air, Earth, Life (Light), Death (Shadow), and Cosmos (multi-class)
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LordGodric
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posted February 09, 2009 08:18 PM

Quote:
I'd like a system with Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Light, and Darkness, which makes it six elements.


I agree with asheera!

i think that each faction have to have 2 or 3 favoured schools, and 1 forbbiden
Heaven is focused on light *blesses and protection* and water* blesses, mind spells and ice demage* and not use darkness *rise dead and dark spells like weakness and decay*
Sylvan is facused on Earth *a bless - stone skin - some curses - slow and entagling roots - and summoning lots of creatures - treants, pixies, eath elementals...* and air, and dont use fire *destruction!!!*
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MattII
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posted February 09, 2009 10:21 PM

At what point did dark and light become elements?

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Asheera
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posted February 09, 2009 10:23 PM

Well if you think from the usual "Earth + Fire + Air + Water" system, of course Light and Dark wouldn't be elements.

However, there are a lot of games which have all six of those 'elements', or something similar. For example, in Spellforce we have the following resistances: Fire, Air, Water and Dark. Light is not there as a resistance because it has only buff spells which can't be resisted (obviously), and Earth is a special magic school that can't be resisted, so that's why it isn't there.
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