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pyromancer
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 18, 2001 11:08 AM |
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the useless units and units too strong
pls answer me this
how can be used a unit like the balista?
a mecanical thing with a little fellow sitting in it - well it can do a ranged attack but what about the hand-to -hand?
Perhaps the little man is jumping out and uses his dagger or what? i think it is imposible to fire a arrow to his attacker; Or when the balista is attacked by side - the whole thing is almost immobile and than it should not retalitate.
And i have one more question about the whole Stronghold
they can hire all of the heroes - than let us look at this:
you hire a Lord (nobility) and you build a breeding pit - the population in this town will be too much.
Or you hire a Priest (life magic) and can resurrect the slain army or a Warlock and you can have grand Chaos magic.
The learning of the spells will not be too difficult since the only thing you must do is to capture an enemy town with a magic guild.
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thunderknight
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted December 18, 2001 11:19 AM |
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pls answer me this
how can be used a unit like the balista?
a mecanical thing with a little fellow sitting in it - well it can do a ranged attack but what about the hand-to -hand?
Perhaps the little man is jumping out and uses his dagger or what? i think it is imposible to fire a arrow to his attacker; Or when the balista is attacked by side - the whole thing is almost immobile and than it should not retalitate.
Agreed, perhaps this is the "specialty" of balista. 
Maybe balista can do damage not only to enemy troops but also castle walls and arrow towers like cyclop can do, and maybe can also damage the opponent's war machines as well. Who knows. 
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they can hire all of the heroes - than let us look at this:you hire a Lord (nobility) and you build a breeding pit - the population in this town will be too much.
Or you hire a Priest (life magic) and can resurrect the slain army or a Warlock and you can have grand Chaos magic.
The learning of the spells will not be too difficult since the only thing you must do is to capture an enemy town with a magic guild.
Well, stronghold suffers from lack of magic AT THE BEGINNING! So, you may have a horde of creatures week 2, but maybe I can build up a quite powerful magic guy by using say academy then use magic to conquer you. Chances are euqal, academy can also conquer stronghold and make use of the boosted growth rate. 
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Gerdash
Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
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posted December 18, 2001 07:30 PM |
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except that there's only one stronghold and 5 town types with magic. so the chances might not be equal.
is it so that if you play e.g. asylum and conquer academy, you still cannot hire academy heroes in the academy? if you can hire academy heroes there, it could be balanced as being able to get another magic school vs getting more creatures.
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted December 19, 2001 12:09 AM |
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If you start with Stronghold it is a big gamble to give your heroes any magic skills, since there's no way for you to be certain which town types your closest neighbours will. If you learn Chaos Magic, and capture a Haven or Academy then your hero won't learn a single spell from those towns.
I'd feel inclined to believe that the Stronghold player will develope their physical skills and pick barbarians until such time that they have a second town type so they know which type of magic hero to hire.
The stronghold can also try might heroes from the other towns, but magic heroes is a gamble since you may never be able to give them propoer spells.
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Slava14
Promising
Famous Hero
I am 16 now....
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posted December 21, 2001 08:15 PM |
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except that there's only one stronghold and 5 town types with magic. so the chances might not be equal.
is it so that if you play e.g. asylum and conquer academy, you still cannot hire academy heroes in the academy? if you can hire academy heroes there, it could be balanced as being able to get another magic school vs getting more creatures.
Tht's right!!! In HOMM3 there were the same Heroes for all of the Kingdom's taverns, so you can get in the end of the game only the same types of heroes as in the beginning. This whole thought will be ruined if in each tavern there will be different Heroes.
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Xenophanes
Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
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posted December 21, 2001 08:20 PM |
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except that there's only one stronghold and 5 town types with magic. so the chances might not be equal.
is it so that if you play e.g. asylum and conquer academy, you still cannot hire academy heroes in the academy? if you can hire academy heroes there, it could be balanced as being able to get another magic school vs getting more creatures.
I think you can recruit Academy at Academy, but not at your original Asylum.
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vladpopescu79
Promising
Famous Hero
a vampire of taste
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posted December 24, 2001 10:16 PM |
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Just an idea with regard to the ballista...someone complained that it could not retaliate against a hand-to-hand attack? That's all fot the best, because it will force the player who owns it to defend it with at least another unit if necessary.It will add to the tactic skills required to play a battle and hopefully other creatures will be just as helpless as this one when attacked.
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Svetac
Promising
Known Hero
Saintified Paladin
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posted December 25, 2001 06:39 AM |
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And i have one more question about the whole Stronghold
they can hire all of the heroes - than let us look at this:
you hire a Lord (nobility) and you build a breeding pit - the population in this town will be too much.
Or you hire a Priest (life magic) and can resurrect the slain army or a Warlock and you can have grand Chaos magic.
The learning of the spells will not be too difficult since the only thing you must do is to capture an enemy town with a magic guild.
Well, if Stronghold player can conquer another town in order to learn the spells, than Haven, Academy, Necropolis, Asylum, Preserve player, can conquer Stronghold and win town with breeding pits. So, it's even there
Moderator's note:This topic has been closed, as it refers to an older version of the game. To discuss Heroes 3, please go to Library Of Enlightenment, to discuss Heroes 4, please go to War Room Of Axeoth.
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