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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2009 05:17 AM |
bonus applied by VokialBG on 15 Mar 2009. |
Edited by SimonaK at 02:19, 26 May 2009.
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SimonaK's NCF Creatures functional tests (Editor/Game)
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Test Conditions
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 Windows XP OS plateform
TotE 3.1 Version Game
UserMODS folder entirely empty (normally others mods may be used in same time as NCF)
The 3 files of NCF Creatures Framework well-installed http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=27113
Most recent versions of each NCF creature are used
All files concerning NCF Creatures have « .pak » as extention and are present in Heroes data folder.
Tests made 11 to 22 march 2009
Each NCF Creature was put in the adventure map in the NCF Editor from the list panel and was fought in the game.
209 NCF Creatures were tested.
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Download Sources of NCF Creatures
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http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=27275&pagenumber=1
http://ncfbank.olympe-network.com/
http://psatkha.narod.ru/ncf_psatkha.html
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NCF Creature Installation Procedure
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1 - Downloading of NCF mod file.
If the extention is « .pak » then put it in Heroes data folder. Installation finished.
If The extention is « .h5u » then rename it to « .pak » and put it in Heroes data folder. Installation finished.
2 - The NCF mod file is a « .zip »
Open it. if GameMechanics folder is visible inside then close it, rename it to « .pak » and put it in Heroes data folder. Installation finished.
3 - The NCF mod file is a « .zip » but there is not the GameMechanics folder OR the NCF mod file is a « .rar »
If there is UserMODs folder then extract it and rename all files inside ( « .zip » or « .h5u ») to « .pak »
and put them in Heroes data folder.
If there is data folder then extract the contents in Heroes data folder.
If there is Complete or Editor folder then extract it Heroes root folder.
Installation finished.
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Legend of Test Codes
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 NCF Editor crash
When this NCF Creature is installed in data folder, the NCF Editor crashs while
it's creating monsters list panel. But in the game, the creature is without bug.
 Bad infos in NCF Editor
The NCF Creature appears in NCF Editor's monters list panel but it doesn't have an icon,
has a bad icon or (rare) its name is not good or unknown.
But in the game, the creature is without bug.
 No NCF Editor support
The NCF Creature doesn't have a link to NCF Editor so it doesn't appear into
but is playable in the game.
 No ScriptID
The NCF Creature doesn't have a scriptID allowing to use it in scripts.
So only the slot number may be use to reference it.
 GamePlay Modified
When the NCF is installed, it may modify original gameplay values as spells, name skills or
other things and these modifications are not clearly exposed in the thread of the corresponding NCF.
 Danger
This NCF Creature must be avoided because there are serious bugs inside which
are able to alterate the game.
 Hillfort crash
When the NCF is brought to the Hillfort to upgrade it. The game crashs and back to Windows
even if the upgrade is present. Moreover generally to bring an upgrade to the Hillfort
to change the upgrade does not work anymore.
 No Camera support
There is not a specific camera for the NCF Creature into its consulting or hiring window.
So the NCF Creature appears too far in the field.
 NOTE
RTMG is able to fix all , , , and bugs while it's importing the NCF but it was not used for present tests.
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List of All NCF Creatures
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Sorted by creator and slot number
All NCF Creatures without test code or without code but with code or code were seen in the NCF Editor monsters list panel.
Cepheus (3)
214 - Basilisk
215 - Greater Basilisk (can't change the upgrade)
216 - Salamander (can't change the upgrade)
Dark Crystal (9)
200 - Ice Elemental
201 - Mist Elemental
202 - Storm Elemental
203 - Gas Elemental
204 - Magma Elemental
205 - Onyx Elemental
206 - Plasma Elemental
207 - Energy Elemental
412 - Death Angel (unreadable name and description in the game)
Disturbed-Gnu (6)
294 - Dark Mummy (no dead animation)
295 - Royal Mummy
450 - Scorpicore
451 - Supreme Exemplar
452 - Ancient Thunderbringer
453 - Burned Corpse
Dopelganger is included in mummy upgrades pack and this last one is included
in manticore upgrades pack and so on. The file of mods use same name that Dopelganger.
Drh3ll (2)
402 - Samurai
407 - Aquamancer (peasant's model in the game) Avoid!
Aquamancer is a very excellent creature when it works.
I have perfectly debugged it by fixing more of 10 bugs.
Eugen Cosmarul (2)
325 - Magog (no dead animation)
392 - Naga
Fauch (74)
311 - Royal Basilisk
312 - Ghost Knight (no name in game)
313 - Guardian Idol
326 - War Lord
327 - Acid Dragon
328 - Fiery Dragon
329 - Guardian Angel
330 - Behemoth
331 - Blood Dragon
332 - Cyclop Thrower
333 - Stone Dragon
334 - Raja Rakshasa
335 - Shadow Mistress
336 - Stone Lord
337 - Cavalry Commander
338 - Pit Annihilator
339 - Frost Reaper
340 - Demonic Wyvern
341 - Symbiotic Treant
342 - Genie
343 - Chaos Hydra
344 - Fire Master
345 - Inquisitor
346 - Terrifying Horse
347 - Shock Lich
348 - Shamanist Warrior
349 - Rainbow Unicorn
350 - Greater Mage
351 - Berserker Marauder
352 - Boxer
353 - Griffin Skirmisher
354 - Vengeful Succubus
355 - Vampire Knight
356 - Night Daughter
357 - Guardian Druid
358 - Temple Guardian
359 - Brutal Minotaur
360 - War Priest
361 - Infantry Commander
362 - Infernal Hound
363 - Mane
364 - Night Warrior
365 - Dark Archer
366 - Peridotite Gargoyle
367 - Blood Prowler
368 - Javelins Thrower
369 - Poisoner
370 - Horned Brute
371 - Butcher Zombi
372 - Centaur Scout
373 - Night Dancer
374 - Gremlin Artillerist
375 - Killer
376 - Turtle-Guard
377 - Verminous Peasant
378 - Mystic
379 - Legionnary Skeleton
380 - Goblin Warrior
381 - Leprechaun
383 - MystoDragon
384 - Ninja
385 - Omega Dragon
386 - Power Mage (Call Lightning, Celestial Shield and Haste are modified)
387 - Centaur Captain
395 - Medusa
400 - Ghost Charger
401 - Blood Hound
404 - Stone Demon
406 - Dopelganger
408 - Ice Dragon (Bloodlust modified)
415 - Garuda
418 - High Lich
420 - Mimic Crystal
423 - Wizard King (Regeneration modified)
Third Upgrades Pack without original creatures modifications alterates Water Elemental.
Arcane Crystal, Call Lightning, Chain Lightning, Deep Freeze, Explosion, Holy Word, Ice Bolt,
Magic Fist, Plague, Stone Spikes and Wasp Swarm are all Spells and Abilities modified
inside of this mod. Name and Desc of Chain Lightning and Avatar of Death are also modified.
Sovereign's name modified.
Fauch's 3rd upgrades pack is a real must for the game. Nice work, a lot of variety of creature abilities. don't avoid it!
Fiur (3)
388 - Abyss Angel
389 - Balrog
390 - Abyss Princess
Gnoll_Mage (2)
213 - Sun Warrior
282 - Planeswalker
Kronos1000 (21)
250 - Troglodyte
251 - Infernal Troglodyte
252 - Aberrant Scourge
253 - Beholder
254 - Eye Tyrant
255 - Gazer
256 - Astral Sorceress
257 - Temporal Sorceress
258 - Planar Sorceress
259 - Xepedon
260 - Xepedon Vanguard
261 - Azmedon
262 - Argus
263 - Argus Panoptes
264 - Speculan
265 - Omnicient
266 - Mana Shaper
267 - Dream Weaver
268 - Flying Saucer
269 - Void Shuttle
270 - Enigma Craft
Avoid Nexus Pack, apart its serious bugs, full of animations and sounds are missing.
Moreover, majority of the creatures doesn't have an icon in the game.
Morrock (12)
209 - Fallen Angel
210 - Chaos Angel
211 - Apocalypse Angel
273 - Daughter Shadow
274 - Daughter of Chaos
275 - Daughter of Night
285 - Stone Keeper
286 - Dark Guard
287 - Guardian of Shadows
279 - Lost Soul
280 - Raging Soul
281 - Damned Soul
Nelgirith (10)
89 - Black Knight
180 - Thunder Bird
181 - Suzaku
182 - Plague Treant
183 - Apocalypse Knight
184 - Undead Cyclop
185 - Ballista
186 - Winterwolf
187 - Worg (wolf's icon to the Hillfort)
278 - Heretic
Psatkha (24)
220 - Dendroid
221 - Dendroid Guardian
222 - Dendroid Soldier
223 - Devaster
224 - Maradeur
225 - Vopar
226 - Schismatic
227 - Chastener
228 - Robber
229 - Armatier
230 - Hermit
232 - Guerrier
233 - Gremlin Arsonist
234 - Malachite Gargoyle
235 - Nunkuga
236 - Komthur
239 - Kikimora
240 - Pit Overseer
241 - Cherub
242 - Kutrub
243 - Cadaver
244 - Namtar
245 - Succubus Emaciater
246 - Gnoll
Radar (8)
188 - Arcane Blades
212 - Enchanter
276 - Templar
276 - Evil Sorceress
283 - Runelord
284 - Dark Champion
291 - Crystal Dragon
298 - Skeleton Mage
Do not use Evil Sorceress and Templar in same time.
Each of both use the same slot number.
SimonaK (7)
496 - Lycanthrope
497 - Zenithale blue
498 - Zenithale red
500 - Arcanes Ballista
501 - Iron Ballista
502 - Lucky Charm
999 - Memory Mentor
TSoD (25)
189 - Mother Nature's Protector
190 - Pyrogiant
191 - Atlante
192 - Geogiant
193 - Animated Protector
218 - Magic Daggers
219 - Runic Axes
304 - Rakshasa Vetala
393 - Wisp
394 - Wisp Elder
396 - Plague Wisp
397 - Minor Walkyrie
398 - Walkyrie
403 - Magma Giant
405 - Sea Golem
409 - Spiritual Cherub
413 - Grunt
414 - Spirit Elemental
416 - Night Elf Archer
417 - Rakshasa Shiva
419 - Night Elf Huntress
424 - Bean Sith
425 - Granite Golem
500 - Arcanes Ballista
501 - Iron Ballista
Vojthus (1)
290 - Sylvan Healer
VokialBG (1)
391 - Royal Guard (invisible on the adventure map)
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You wish to see a piece of a complete NCF Creatures collection?
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=27572
Now, if you still have a problem with such a NCF creature, talk about it to the corresponding creator.
Thanks.
Note to creators: You will be able to return here to inform about an available fix update of your NCF and then I'll remove the test code.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted March 14, 2009 08:01 AM |
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Crystal Dragon has had its ID fixed with the patch.
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 14, 2009 08:42 AM |
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Right. Test code removed.
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DarkCrystal
Promising
Supreme Hero
Staright out of line
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posted March 15, 2009 09:14 AM |
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412 - Death Angel (unreadable name and description in the game)
Unreadable? Does it mean that text doesn't appear at all or it means that texts are just strange? Because last time I may uploaded an another language version, I don't remember.
EDIT: Oh, I see now, what's the problem. I'll fix it when I have time.
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Sometimes I'm about to yell: "It is flat you idiots!" But I don't wanna die in fire. 
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 15, 2009 05:29 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 17:31, 15 Mar 2009.
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actually my creatures add a new level of mastery to some spells, but don't alter the existing levels of mastery.
oh yes, call lightning, presence of the storm and explosion have been modified. Fire chain and avenging flames too.
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 15, 2009 05:40 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 20:48, 15 Mar 2009.
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EDIT: Oh, I see now, what's the problem. I'll fix it when I have time.
That's true that takes a looot of time to fix it.
It's not like never I spoke of this bug to you in your own thread of. 
Moreover you can benefit of this time to add editor icon to all of your NCFs. 
Idea: you should create just a pack for your upgrades of elementals.
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actually my creatures add a new level of mastery to some spells, but don't alter the existing levels of mastery.
Ya, I know that some spells modifications is perhaps just for the adding mastery.
But all files inside of a NCF mods which are not a mechanic part of the creature is signaled. (textures, animations, sounds, properties, etc)
only when the informations doesn't appears in the NCF thread.
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted March 15, 2009 10:19 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 22:19, 15 Mar 2009.
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You deserved it  Looks like it was hard work.
Hm, I can see my only creature on the map Maybe I fixed it but never released fixed verion or, hm... I'll be back on this later...
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 15, 2009 10:23 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 22:25, 15 Mar 2009.
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Thanks a lot, VokialBG
I very proud of this QP.
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Psatkha
Promising
Known Hero
H5 MODder
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posted March 17, 2009 06:51 AM |
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Edited by Psatkha at 07:19, 17 Mar 2009.
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I found bugs and I have fixed bugs!
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted March 17, 2009 08:36 AM |
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GamePlay Modified
When the NCF is installed, it may modify original gameplay values as spells, name skills or
other things and these modifications are not clearly exposed in the thread of the corresponding NCF.
As far as I know, all these creatures cast spells on extra Expert mastery, which has nothing to do with normal spells avaliable in game.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 17, 2009 01:03 PM |
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actually, only one version of the 3rd upgrades mod modifies the gameplay.
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TSoD
Promising
Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
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posted March 17, 2009 04:30 PM |
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Edited by TSoD at 16:32, 17 Mar 2009.
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I think the troubles encountering with my creatures are only the pictures, isn't it ? I think it is because their icons are in DDS and not TGA... No ?
EDIT : but something is strange : if it is the pictures, my wisps are also without it... why aren't they token in your list ? 
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 17, 2009 10:22 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 03:17, 18 Mar 2009.
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As far as I know, all these creatures cast spells on extra Expert mastery, which has nothing to do with normal spells avaliable in game.
Perhaps, but how the user can explain the power of spells from these NCF while are casting
if never none of explications is given about the extra expert mastery.
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actually, only one version of the 3rd upgrades mod modifies the gameplay.
« Water_Elemental.xdb » is present in the mod "without modifications" and some non-ncf textname files are also present.
All of that is not a "problem", but the users must be informed.
If you give your-self the specifications for all these facts, I should remove Testcode.
Moreover, you can benefit of it to fix the 3rd Vampire editor name glitch.
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I think the troubles encountering with my creatures are only the pictures, isn't it ? I think it is because their icons are in DDS and not TGA... No ?
EDIT : but something is strange : if it is the pictures, my wisps are also without it... why aren't they token in your list ?
Only for pictures, yes.
Pictures from complete folder can be DDS or TGA, that is not a problem. So all wisp icons are perfectly working.
Minor Walkirie uses plague wisp editor icon, other one has simply not icon.
Perhaps you have always include a editor icon then the editor link for the icon is not good.
This thread informs the presence of modifications and/or bugs, but do not say how to fix bugs.
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I found bugs and I have fixed bugs!
Well then as soon as I see update from your site, I'll remove Testcode.
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EDIT:
I added a new Testcode ( ) to inform that the NCF makes the game crashs when it is brought to the Hillfort.
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Psatkha
Promising
Known Hero
H5 MODder
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posted March 18, 2009 10:37 AM |
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Edited by Psatkha at 11:10, 18 Mar 2009.
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Well then as soon as I see update from your site, I'll remove Testcode.
I have all updated at once even yesterday (17.03.2009)!
P.S. Now I changed at the main page "Last update: 18.03.2009"
P.P.S.
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VokialBG (1)
391 - Royal Guard (invisible on the adventure map)
This creature with the consent of the author has been slightly altered and will be soon published on my site as the joint project by VokialBG
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TSoD
Promising
Famous Hero
NCF Blacksmith
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posted March 18, 2009 06:35 PM |
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Edited by TSoD at 18:54, 18 Mar 2009.
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Well, I update my Complete flder in adding all the icons of all the NCF I have, and there are a strange thing : your Zenithales aren't named ! Only CREATURE_XXX...
[[[EDIT : idem for your Lycanthrope...  ]]]
There is also a problem with the icon of the Aquamancer in the editor...
Anyway, I repair my creatures bugs now. I hope I'll find a solution for the hillfort problems...
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 18, 2009 09:20 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 00:20, 19 Mar 2009.
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Well, I update my Complete flder in adding all the icons of all the NCF I have, and there are a strange thing : your Zenithales aren't named ! Only CREATURE_XXX...
[[[EDIT : idem for your Lycanthrope... ]]]
You're testing a too old version!
All of that are fixed in version 1.1 of Lycanthrope and Zenithales 
These versions are the « more recent » and it's these versions which been tested.
ALSO: You are able to see CREATURE_407 (Aquamancer) in the NCF editor because your version of it has a AdvMapObjectLink ...but this NCF doesn't work anyway in the game.
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I hope I'll find a solution for the hillfort problems...
shut...I'll say a secret to you the problem is: You use ScriptID in BaseCreature and Upgrades tag from GameMechanics instead of to use MonsterID
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VokialBG (1)
391 - Royal Guard (invisible on the adventure map)
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This creature with the consent of the author has been slightly altered and will be soon published on my site as the joint project by VokialBG
It's noted.
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EDIT
OK, Psatkha and TSoD, I checked your updates and modified the Master Post.
Now new bugs:
Psatkha, your new Chastener has not an animation on the adventure map because some files was renamed.
You must updated the MonsterShared file.
TSoD, your Minor Walkirie has not still a Editor icon, because the picture in its icon file in complete folder
is these of wisp.
Psatkha, Please Test this modification before updating your site, maybe it is not enough
TSoD, It is not necessary to put the other upgrade as upgrade of other upgrade.
For the two upgrades, let empty the upgrade tag:
<Upgrades/>
Check these picture to understand what happening when you put an upgrade to the upgrade:
(Dendroid setting upgrades are perfect)
Of course, that works anyway. but the upgrade is not the "second upgrade" of the base but rather a real
upgrade of the upgrade. The cost of upgrade is not the same and generally is free.
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This thread informs the presence of modifications and/or bugs, but do not say how to fix bugs.
Finally, I'll help creators a little bit
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Ishmael
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 18, 2009 11:54 PM |
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Thanks for your test work and the link to the awesometastic NCF bank site. I have re-downloaded all the creatures I want, reinstalled NCF, and will now attempt to get them working in the map editor. Wish me luck!
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 19, 2009 12:07 AM |
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Good luck!
I cannot help you more than with this thread.
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Ishmael
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 19, 2009 12:20 AM |
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I cannot help you more than with this thread.
You sure? 
'Cause I followed the directions here exactly. Re-downloaded the NCF, added the exe files to the Heroes/bin folder, and the NCF_Core to the Heroes/data folder. I re-downloaded all the creatures I wanted from the site you linked here, one at a time, and extracted all the .pak files to the Heroes/data folder. After extracting everything, I moved everything inside the Complete folder to the Heroes/Complete folder. \
Finally, I ran the H5_MapEditor.NCF.exe... and I still cannot see ANY of the new creatures in the monster panel within the editor. Not a one. ;_;
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SimonaK
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted March 19, 2009 12:22 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 00:25, 19 Mar 2009.
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I've never seen your bug of my life.
What is your Heroes version 3.1? international, european? which one exactly?
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