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Zenithale
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posted March 29, 2009 09:40 PM |
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Edited by VokialBG at 11:21, 05 Apr 2009.
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[MOD TotE] Base creatures improved for Arena and Duel games
This MOD increases the stats and skills for all base creatures.
All infos in this .PDF.
Download HERE.
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Fauch
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posted March 29, 2009 10:50 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 22:51, 29 Mar 2009.
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wait, I thought it was based on my mod.
ok, I get it, it's like my mod, but with different stats.
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Zenithale
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posted March 30, 2009 06:45 PM |
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Not exactly, your MOD allows 4th creatures (base +2 upgrades +your upgrade), and this MOD improves the base creatures to reach the power of upgraded creatures.
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New version available (bloodrage bonus improved for the 7 new orc creatures).
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SimonaK
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posted March 30, 2009 10:41 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 22:43, 30 Mar 2009.
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indeed....that is very confused
I thought this thread is talking about NCF creatures....
Surely a name as « Base Creatures with enforced stats » is better ...« 3rd upgrade » is already too known...
anyway even with high-stats, base creature remains base creature and it is not upgrade...
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Asheera
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posted March 31, 2009 03:36 AM |
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Ah I understand now, you want to have 3 creature choices instead of 2 for a duel map? Nice idea, but 2 problems:
1) balance, obviously 
2) you start with non-upgraded creatures, so why would you upgrade them and lose money if those are as tough?
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Zenithale
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posted March 31, 2009 11:41 AM |
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Surely a name as « Base Creatures with enforced stats » is better
I can't change the topic name now. 
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Nice idea, but 2 problems:
1) balance, obviously
2) you start with non-upgraded creatures, so why would you upgrade them and lose money if those are as tough?
1) Were do you see a balance problem? Do you try it? If yes I'm waiting your balance opinions, of course!
2) In Arena games you just start with few tiers 1 and 2, that's not a problem. Maybe that's the case on Elvin's map?
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Fauch
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posted March 31, 2009 08:31 PM |
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I'm wondering about a few creatures :
peasant : ini 6? I know he has dash, but...
priest : looks a bit tough. in the other hand, his spells aren't that good, but as a shooter he looks strong.
angel : only 200 HPs?
blade juggler : looks a bit weak
druid : can resurrect by using mana drain?
treant : looks a bit weak
lizard rider : 10-17 damage??
nightmare and devil : look a bit weak
rune priest : looks strong
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Zenithale
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posted March 31, 2009 10:24 PM |
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peasant : ini 6? I know he has dash, but...
I hesitate between 6 or 7. The fact is a Knight can easily learn Power of Speed, and Haste+Dash is incredible.
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priest : looks a bit tough. in the other hand, his spells aren't that good, but as a shooter he looks strong.
Very robust but a weak Attack and slower than the others.
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angel : only 200 HPs?
Yes "only" (it's not bad!) 200HP because the Aura of Magic resistance is really powerful, particularly for a true migh faction.
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blade juggler : looks a bit weak
I will maybe improve his stats.
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druid : can resurrect by using mana drain?
Yes, of course. Hard to use, but in a close game...
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treant : looks a bit weak
I don't think. Init 9, Vitesse 7, that's great! This Treants can now attack in the first turn with Tactic or Aura of Swiftness.
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lizard rider : 10-17 damage??
Probably too much, but compare with the Raider charge (target Defense usually = 0).
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nightmare and devil : look a bit weak
Instead of 2 Attack, 3 Defense, 1 Init and Aura -3Moral, the Nightamre gain the Cursing attack and -1 Moral for all enemies. Hum maybe I will slightly improve his stats.
Devil is strong with Bash and his great move IMO.
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rune priest : looks strong
Correct stats, but NO spell. Maybe the 2 Flamestrikes are too good.
Thanks for your opinion. Of course this MOD need a lot of test to balance it.
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Fauch
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posted March 31, 2009 10:30 PM |
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the flamestrike is the main reason why I would choose the flamelord actually. it's incredibly powerful. that makes the flamelord one of the best shooters imo (whereas he isn't supposed to be a shooter)
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Fauch
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posted April 03, 2009 11:00 AM |
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I'm working on fusionning our 2 mods.
I will try to keep your units as they are, but there are some of them I want to modify.
Magi : looks a bit weak. but I noticed he has some great spells, does he stand the comparison with the archmage?
Genie : as he is an attacker, I would get rid of random curse and give him hexing attack maybe.
Defender : it's annoying that he has no more abilities than the unupgraded version
axe fighter : same thing, but I'm more annoyed by the stats. he is almost as strong as the harpooner and has 2 more initiative points.
thane : it's ok, but if I fusion our mods, he will have "immune to cold" instead of "immune to earth"
walking dead : looks a bit weak
wight : looks strong with init 14
goblin : I would get rid of treachery
centaur : maybe another skill?
shaman : looks a bit weak. yes she has agility, but I'm not convinced it's much better than hexing attack.
druid : looks strong (at least, compared with the other druids)
treant : maybe another ability? I was thinking of battle rage or fierce retaliation, but maybe that will make it too strong.
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SimonaK
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posted April 05, 2009 06:07 AM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 06:10, 05 Apr 2009.
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I can't change the topic name now.
ask it to a moderator 
I'm sure VokialBG could do it for you.
[MOD TotE] base creatures improved for Arena and Duel games
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I'm working on fusionning our 2 mods.
I will try to keep your units as they are, but there are some of them I want to modify.
at worst, why not to re-stat all your own 3rd upgrades with Zenithale's stats.
(It's a little joke, majority of your own stats are cool)
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Fauch
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posted April 05, 2009 11:21 AM |
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that may not be a bad idea. except the graphics of some of my creatures may not fit zenithale's ideas.
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SimonaK
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posted April 05, 2009 04:38 PM |
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Edited by SimonaK at 17:18, 05 Apr 2009.
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that may not be a bad idea. except the graphics of some of my creatures may not fit zenithale's ideas.
this is exactly one thing that I thought before sleeping
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Thanks VokialBG
A funny fact: that allowed me to see a Zenithale's mistake for the word « Duel » Duel being the French word for Dual.
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