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Towerlord
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posted May 18, 2009 02:05 PM |
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Yeah, maybe you're right Elit, I'm being too harsh, and I apoligize... maybe there were some factors and un-luck that led to this battle, maybe he wanted warlock's luck, and couldn't get it, but the fact is he didn't have the skills, the spells or the army ready for battle mode.
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infinitus
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posted May 18, 2009 02:18 PM |
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Thanks for suggestions, still a replay were Sylvan beat Vex Dwarfs on 2m will be very nice 
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Why don't you take Defense + Stand ground, maybe power of endurance also, 3 favoured enemies, Deep freeze(or Implosion)
I prefer enlightenment+intelligence skill in this case cos rain of arrow+imbued balista need a lot of manna ... Armageddon was the spell offered by game ...
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Of course, destructive is worse than light configuration in the first place...
Oki, i go light magic and get this spells - divine strength, cleansing, deflect missile, magical immunity, world of light. This spells will help in this case ? Will be better compared to destruction ?
To Elit - if you show me Vex dwarfs dead on 2m, i say game have balance ... Until then is total imba for me ... 
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Elvin
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posted May 18, 2009 02:21 PM |
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Ah yes people are guilty unless proven otherwise
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sq79
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posted May 18, 2009 02:26 PM |
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When the solution is out, sylvan will become imba hehe
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infinitus
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posted May 18, 2009 02:29 PM |
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No, no will be just fine
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valkyrica
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posted May 18, 2009 02:31 PM |
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Yeah, maybe you're right Elit, I'm being too harsh, and I apoligize... maybe there were some factors and un-luck that led to this battle, maybe he wanted warlock's luck, and couldn't get it, but the fact is he didn't have the skills, the spells or the army ready for battle mode.
Warlock's luck with imbued ballista & rain of arrows ? I wasn't aware that this combo works Even if it does ... sorcery is a wasted skill ...
Also, imbued ballista is generally a mistake (especially with such a crappy spell as the main damage dealer, even if you have master of storms, after the first shot, it renders the effect pretty much useless). You rarely get to cast with your hero if you have the ballista (only if you micromanage the ballista, shooting 66% of the time).
P.S.: I didn't watch the replay, but warlock's luck and imbue ballista pretty much go against each other ...; also being level 22, as elit said, you probably had logistics. That completes the chain ... and against dwarf (ballista will most likely shoot one time, if that) that's a completely inadequate build (at least that's what my footman senses tell me)
P.P.S.: Personally i'd take imbue ballista only with dirael
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Elvin
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posted May 18, 2009 02:54 PM |
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Hey if you get machines early you just take your chances I'd like to note that empathy is much better with imbued ballista, your hero will often get to cast some spells before the ballista's turn come.
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valkyrica
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posted May 18, 2009 04:33 PM |
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I just saw the replay
Awkward clumsiness from someone who plays Sylvan 99% of the time.
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infinitus
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posted May 21, 2009 03:53 PM |
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Imba story continue This time Wyngaal fall in battle  Replay. In this game i get staff -20%, but things not changed match ...
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Elit
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posted May 21, 2009 04:47 PM |
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Imba story continue This time Wyngaal fall in battle Replay. In this game i get staff -20%, but things not changed match ...
hmm...wonder if DV help him abit or its just pure dwarfs imba?
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 05:23 PM |
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Sure DV was nice, but DV was countered by my resurrect spell... Don't think DV is imba, let's say was not DV spell but implosion spell enhanced by emerald slippers. Influence on this game outcome will be the same i think. Please notice dwarfs not have this match rune of resurrect. By the way this time on map was 4 Sylvan towns vs 1 for Fortress ! Difference in dragons number is not from towns, all Sylvan towns was in Vex possession...
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Towerlord
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posted May 21, 2009 07:20 PM |
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You need to play better, and you'll certainly win
Vex did very well with druids for DV. And if you must know... there is a super skill, which you seem to dislike/never use, it makes all the difference in the world in this kind of games
A dwarf killer combo is defense + mass haste + mass endurance + REGENERATION on dragons(and unicorns ofc)... try it.
And in the end ... try not to place your troops so perfectly for his rune of battle rage
Oh... and also ... you need to learn troop killing priority against dwarfs .
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natalka
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posted May 21, 2009 07:26 PM |
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lol Tower u took my words.He needed defence badly and not only...
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 08:01 PM |
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Oh... and also ... you need to learn troop killing priority against dwarfs .
please more details Defense better compared to enlightenment ? I get mentoring this time ...
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lol Tower u took my words.He needed defence badly and not only...
Please more details, Vex is first dwarf i encounter on 2m
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Elvin
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posted May 21, 2009 08:59 PM |
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Dwarves are not a race to just charge and win, they can take it - especially with defensive formation and rez rune - and start pushing you back. There will be furious melee, especially when there is battlerage involved so enlight and defense are pretty much a must. Tight formations are the worst thing you can do because they have many ways of multi-attacking.
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Jinxer
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posted May 21, 2009 09:59 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 22:48, 21 May 2009.
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Dwarfs are kinda like Orcs in the sense that you should try and clear entire stacks before moving on to the next one... Because of the rez rune.
I have won many games only because my opponent would kill a stack down to couple units then move on to another bigger stack..
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infinitus
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posted May 22, 2009 07:04 AM |
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There will be furious melee, especially when there is battlerage involved so enlight and defense are pretty much a must.
If i take enlightenment and defense then no attack or no what ?
No log is not a option on 2m for me ...
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Dwarfs are kinda like Orcs in the sense that you should try and clear entire stacks before moving on to the next one... Because of the rez rune.
True. Maybe if i shoot with arcanes his dragons they stay alive after DV, DV power is based on frag number.
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And in the end ... try not to place your troops so perfectly for his rune of battle rage
If i make first strike, my troops will be in line and close to each other after my first turn, nothing to do here i think.
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vex
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posted May 22, 2009 07:39 AM |
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Dwarfs are kinda like Orcs in the sense that you should try and clear entire stacks before moving on to the next one... Because of the rez rune.
True. Maybe if i shoot with arcanes his dragons they stay alive after DV, DV power is based on frag number.
At least not this game.. with addition to DV, have also full set of expert destructive spells with armor piercing perk..
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infinitus
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posted May 22, 2009 09:02 AM |
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At least not this game.. with addition to DV, have also full set of expert destructive spells with armor piercing perk..
Hmm, then maybe Wyngaal need swift mind and first cast need to cast magical immunity on arcanes, but in this case big delay for mass haste, Sylvan are doomed to imba dwarfs
Need to call Willgefors, the super hero, to show us the power of Sylvan on 2m vs cowards dwarfs
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vex
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posted May 22, 2009 09:18 AM |
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At least not this game.. with addition to DV, have also full set of expert destructive spells with armor piercing perk..
Hmm, then maybe Wyngaal need swift mind and first cast need to cast magical immunity on arcanes, but in this case big delay for mass haste, Sylvan are doomed to imba dwarfs
Need to call Willgefors, the super hero, to show us the power of Sylvan on 2m vs cowards dwarfs
Magical immunity - useless spell vs dwarfs, remember what happend with 80 champions ?
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