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Strider_HL
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posted May 21, 2009 12:10 AM |
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Unfortunately, lessons about damaging effect of quarrels in forum just cannot be learned... As usually, both sides have their righteous position and, perhaps, we need to learn living with it. That being said i can sum up my opinion about this case in the following list:
1. Jinxer is veteran and favored opponent of many. Natalka is newbie and also favored lately. Yet, trying to resolve a particular conflict has nothing to do with TOH player status. Remember that!
2. To my surprise, Jinxer admitted that he has demanded couple of pair generations, messed the samiekl generator and discontinued the game two times after seeing the unfavorable beginning. I really hope he can shed some justifying light on this issue as it certainly doesn't signalize fairness and honor. I'm sure there is explanation...
3. Seems that both disputers were diligently pouring oil in fire by treating each other with disrespect. We all know Nat's ferocious tongue but it also seems that Jinxer's behavior was mocking and discriminative. Now you both pay for it.
4. I set up their game. After that i never meddled in their relationship. Right after their argument exploded i noticed that Jinxer has blocked me (punishment perhaps) hehe That was really odd as we had normal relationship and even discussed his Caesar games against jorko.
5. Honor rating is illusive. Even Nat has 50%, look at the support she gets from community. Jinxer has 100% and only few supporters. Also, don't confuse likability with this rating. For instance, i graded Kis as honorable in all games even if we quarreled some. I believe that many do the same. In other words, don't play the difference in honor rating as the cardinal proof of your superiority - after all, each case should be evaluated separately.
And lastly, more on a personal note... Jinxer lately has mentioned that i refused to play BZ because i had to "study" it. Well... i didn't buy his tempting comments "cannot great Strider play me blind? " because that is just not fair. Ofc, i needed to look in editor but it is impossible to understand web of portals there, so the game was left hanging... As i understand then only his scrutinized maps were on the table for the game versus Nat...
In conclusion, drama will always be part of TOH Yet, it has survived all these years and past quarrelers often turned out to be good buddies later. Let's hope it is the case with Jinxer and Nat as well 
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted May 21, 2009 02:22 AM |
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testing my new computer
There is no editing/modification of honor ratings, thank you. Only through player winloss reports and unreported games does the honor rating modify.
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To the plain facts even Gods are silent. There is no way imo that nobody ever marked u dishonorable nevertheless how honorably u played. They may have been just angry at the loss and put dishonorable. Can you explain how would Ves know that you edited your honor rating and I doubt he cares about you editing it.
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yet they come running to defend and support the newbie player
I am a newbie player?? Remember in that final battle you were the person who asked me what does ralling cry do. It is a shame that our dear Emperor doesn't know that. I guess that comes from the limited group of people he plays with.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted May 21, 2009 04:00 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 04:37, 21 May 2009.
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There is no editing/modification of honor ratings, thank you. Only through player winloss reports and unreported games does the honor rating modify.
--Ves
Hi VES.. thanks for straightening that out.  Honor ratings are accurate and untouched.
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1. trying to resolve a particular conflict has nothing to do with TOH player status. Remember that!
I disagree... it has everything to do with it.. The honor rating shows patterns and tendancies and the character of a player... and when natalka makes up these fairy tales trying to discredit and bash the reputation of a player... I think its only fair that people take into account how much of what is said.. wether it is likely to be true or just a buncha fluff.
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2. To my surprise, Jinxer admitted that he has demanded couple of pair generations, messed the samiekl generator
I did not admit to this.. haha... I just didnt post denial of her exhaggerations immediately because didnt want to get into long drawn out story once again defending myself when there isnt anything to defend... the title of the thread is accurate.. it was Natalkas Fairy tale.. a largely exhaggerated story..
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4. Right after their argument exploded i noticed that Jinxer has blocked me (punishment perhaps) hehe That was really odd as we had normal relationship
This is true... after my horrible experience with nat.. in our 2 games.. I once again was gonna put her back on block.. I at that time figured that she would try and flame my MSN thru communcations with you...so I blocked you to prevent that... then I forgot..sorry... so I have unblocked you again Strider. I have nothing personal at all agasint you.
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As i understand then only his scrutinized maps were on the table for the game versus Nat...
Again.. I wont lie.. I am addicted to Gensis and DarkRealm.. and as I have mentioned since I was very very skeptical about even playing Nat cause of all the bad rumors of bad honor and disconnects.. I felt more comfortable playing her on Genesis or DarkRealm.. because its possible to see much of what opponent does all game... makes it harder to disconnect after losing a tuff battle etc etc.. And for the record.. I have 6 maps in my played maps list in the DOUBLE DIGITS.. Valky has only 2 maps in double digits.. Natalka only 4 maps in double digits and Strider only 1 map.. so according to my count... I have a much more diverse and broader playing of different maps then some of my harsher critics 
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In conclusion, drama will always be part of TOH Yet, it has survived all these years and past quarrelers often turned out to be good buddies later. Let's hope it is the case with Jinxer and Nat as well
Well for the record.. I have offered few times now to call a truce.. I doubt best buddies is in the future.. but I was willing to atleast be civil with each other.. and she refused every offering.. and then posted her fairy tale Fiction.. So the so called quarrel only continues cause natalka wants it to apparently. Maybe she likes her new found attention.. Who knows.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted May 21, 2009 06:25 AM |
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**** On a side note.. its a shame that a veteran of 10 years in TOH with Highest Honor has to struggle so hard to get the respect of his fellow players.. yet they come running to defend and support the newbie player that cant even manage to get 1% raise in her honor rating after 88 games.. that goes to show the status of our so called Tournament of Honor. And worst yet.. is the amount of mates that in msn will tell how they support me and agree with me.. but wont say so in public.
I am with you, if that does matter
I still can't understand what mosquito picked you and made you react like this. You should never answer to those threads.
The forums were great until people with infect education or personality joined, as Vangelis or Natalka. Of course, having no morality or any respect of themselves, they whine every day and throw rude porn words anywhere to just feel strong or to exist. Yeah, some onanism addicted feel right to support Natalka because she is a woman, but nothing in her is acting like that. A bunch of nonsense, that's it, her thread. And cautioned by a moderator?
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 09:24 AM |
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Again.. I wont lie.. I am addicted to Gensis and DarkRealm.. and as I have mentioned since I was very very skeptical about even playing Nat cause of all the bad rumors of bad honor and disconnects.. I felt more comfortable playing her on Genesis or DarkRealm.. because its possible to see much of what opponent does all game... makes it harder to disconnect after losing a tuff battle etc etc.. And for the record.. I have 6 maps in my played maps list in the DOUBLE DIGITS.. Valky has only 2 maps in double digits.. Natalka only 4 maps in double digits and Strider only 1 map.. so according to my count... I have a much more diverse and broader playing of different maps then some of my harsher critics
You can't compare cherries with apples.
You have 213 games played, out of which 111 are on your own maps. Of course that by having a much larger pool of games played, your "double digit maps" tend to be higher than my total of 75 (reported) games.
(I assure you that I have at least another 3 double digit maps that aren't shown over there )
This reply is only to put Jinxer back on the logical path, that's why nobody's backing him (and maybe people should root for him, after all, he's our mascot), if you bring poor arguments to a contradictory discussion, then you'll start losing credibility. Just a heads-up on life
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 09:37 AM |
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Look like you all having fun in this new drama
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2009 10:28 AM |
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@Salamandre
First off people are free to post their experiences - I cannot start banning discussions, my role here is to avoid them getting out of hand. Secondly I was lead to believe that the thread was for another reason but that's irrelevant. Natalka was civil about it.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 10:41 AM |
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What honor rating do i have?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted May 21, 2009 10:54 AM |
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Elvin
If the "lady" got -6 here already, there must be a reason, no? If I remember well, I opened once a post of her and I was horrified. What is the point of cautioning a -6 member who apparently lost her dictionary in public toilets to start a thread where she starts bashing a 10 long years member who never got any penalty, worked for free many years in TOH (rankings and maps, anyone remember the old days when no automation?), made maps so all the community can have diversity and for free , and never had any negative behavior? (besides whining constantly about hit and run)
You were all happy when he released his maps, and now he is a prick because he play them?!
People forget fast and think everything is due and free. (not referring at you Elvin)
Respect, please. Vulgarity shouldn't have its place here. I always thought and hoped that this is a place for share, or at least, it was.
The "little man", how the "lady" calls him, actually contributed to Heroes more than she will do in her whole life. Using pejorative metaphors to soft the bullet does not make her suddenly "civil".
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2009 11:59 AM |
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Indeed but she has shown enough improvement for me to cut her some slack. I was the one that gave her those penalties and they were pretty much deserved but that does not mean she will remain like that forever and I appreciate the change. You check here once in a blue moon but I have been keeping an eye every day and apart from being blunt and the occasional bickering due to jinxer's constant stream of complaints I don't have any problems. Now should they arise that is another thing.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted May 21, 2009 12:27 PM |
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Edited by natalka at 13:44, 21 May 2009.
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to Jinxer:
What are you going to say about your numerous disconnects and editing the Samiekl generator?
to Salamandre:
Who the f*** are you to talk like that about me? You don't know me. If your mother made you in a public toilet I have nothing to do with this.
Sorry I couldn't resist but this Salamandre dude is from the elder generation like grandpa Jinxer. Seems they have old principles about women too. That's the reason why Salamandre says my behavior is not of a woman.. If your women stay in the house all day, cook, wash your smelly socks and make 5 min sex with you and never contradict you and obey you..I am not that type of girl Who said women can't talk about or watch porn? Is there something shameful?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2009 12:31 PM |
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You aren't helping Natalka.
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samiekl
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 12:38 PM |
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Common, leave her alone...she's funny. Pissed-off women are always funny.
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Anakrom
Known Hero
(Scroll) Out of the blue
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posted May 21, 2009 12:52 PM |
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And threads like this are the reason why I play H5 multiplayer only with my friends.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted May 21, 2009 01:00 PM |
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And that is the reason you can't play but you are satisfied with that ... so everything is ok
Life is good , the sun keeps on shining ... everything`s gonna be allright...
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 04:53 PM |
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Where else would you draw your imagination from, if not porn ?!
There's a story behind every movie !
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted May 21, 2009 05:00 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 23:53, 21 May 2009.
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If the "lady" got -6 here already, there must be a reason, no? If I remember well, I opened once a post of her and I was horrified. What is the point of cautioning a -6 member who apparently lost her dictionary in public toilets to start a thread where she starts bashing a 10 long years member who never got any penalty, worked for free many years in TOH (rankings and maps, anyone remember the old days when no automation?), made maps so all the community can have diversity and for free , and never had any negative behavior? (besides whining constantly about hit and run)
You were all happy when he released his maps, and now he is a prick because he play them?!
People forget fast and think everything is due and free. (not referring at you Elvin)
Respect, please. Vulgarity shouldn't have its place here. I always thought and hoped that this is a place for share, or at least, it was.
The "little man", how the "lady" calls him, actually contributed to Heroes more than she will do in her whole life. Using pejorative metaphors to soft the bullet does not make her suddenly "civil".
Thanks for your support Salamandre... you have made many valid points.. and you are right that it is time that I quit adding fuel to Natalka fire by replying to her silly lies and fairytales. It seems that she is enjoying her 15 mins of fame and wanting to ride it out as long as possible.. and I am guilty of providing her with the means to keep it going... So I will take Salamandres advice and quit feeling like I need to respond to the rantings of someone who is just in desperate need of attention..
My suggestion would be for you (Natalka) to start fresh.. turn over a new leaf.. and work at gaining the respect of your fellow players in games..( right now they only respect you cause you attack Jinxer ) --and then your Honor rating would start to climb. Believe it or not.. I am rooting for you Natalka... prove us all wrong and start fresh.. and reach for the sky... become that beautiful butterfly...
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2009 05:02 PM |
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Salamandre is a national (heroes nation, of course) hero !
He's the first to convince Jinxer to quit arguing !
Masterfully done Natalka, you've educated Jinxer by starting this thread ! Hooray for the modern woman !
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted May 21, 2009 05:04 PM |
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I quit adding fuel to Natalka fire
Oh, I'm sure you quit it with this post.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted May 21, 2009 05:44 PM |
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Thats for your support Salamandre... you have made many valid points.. and you are right that it is time that I quit adding fuel to Natalka fire by replying to her silly lies and fairytales. It seems that she is enjoying her 15 mins of fame and wanting to ride it out as long as possible.. and I am guilty of providing her with the means to keep it going... So I will take Salamandres advice and quit feeling like I need to respond to the rantings of someone who is just in desperate need of attention..
Oh, how good you are , Jinxer. You should become the next pope of Vatican. I admire you.
Now on the topic. So everybody here thinks it is normal to disconnect several times after losing a battle and edit the generator???? Everybody thinks that we have to restart 3 times the game until our dear Emperor is satisfied????? No problem.When you don't have anything else to say except that I am lying ,you are ready not to argue and call a truce.
As I told you I have never seen in the history of the world a losing country to demand territories from the winner and ask for a peace treaty. Do you remember the times I begged you to stop talking to me in this arrogant and whining way?
Stop with your honor I don't care. Your repertoire is depleted now. Tell us something new , the truth ..your truth maybe if you want.
P.S. Tell me in which school did u study writing?
Maybe you knew to write correctly in your mother's tongue and now you simply forgot or had a bad day. Emperors in Rome were the most educated people - what kind of Emperor are u? Maybe Ves should give you the title - the most illegible Emperor wuhuuu. Let's celebrate 
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