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pei
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posted September 01, 2009 08:31 AM |
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HOMM Mythbusters
About...about..about
Ive always wondered some dark, secret and mysterious things about the HOMM world.
I wrote this post when asking myself...how is that this creature fits in the HOMM world?If u ever had wondered the same then share ur opinions on any creature and the part they play on this dangerous world we all heroes love or just any myth concerning HOMM.
About Gnolls
They are half doggie and half man. Some say that they have their own language, some say that they only bark at each other.
These beasts seem to be attracted to small groups of bandits. In HOMM they resemble a simple street dog with humanoid parts but in mithology they have a more dark haired skin, perhaps more similar to a grey horse.
Are these Gnolls clean guys?Dont think so, imagine the smell of a wet street dog whose feces are still hanging from the tail.
So, whos hiding behind all that fur? Is it an intelligent and savage creature or a strange pet whos gone mad?How come they get along with lizards?
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Society99
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posted September 01, 2009 10:50 AM |
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I'd say they get along just fine with Lizards due to the fact that if they don't, they die by the general's hand.
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liophy
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posted September 01, 2009 12:43 PM |
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Ive always wondered some dark, secret and mysterious things about the HOMM world... About Gnolls
Man, that was interesting point of view. I have never looked at the creatures at such angle.
If you make more describtions for the other creatures i will be glad to read it.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted September 01, 2009 05:39 PM |
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So, whos hiding behind all that fur? Is it an intelligent and savage creature or a strange pet whos gone mad?How come they get along with lizards?
Play Revolt of the Beastmasters...
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pei
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posted September 01, 2009 05:57 PM |
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Ive heard that what motivates Gnolls are Lizardīs false rewards of meat, not gold not magic. If gold is what they seek, then they are after some anual dinner. Just as their cousins, the Hyenas, they attack in small groups and sometimes ambush strong enemies.
These doggie man creatures will always hunt in advantage unless they are under lizards control or just starving. If Gnolls is what you see in font of you then prepare to be entirely eaten cause these stinking beasts wont stop until nothing is left!!
Now imagine yourself in a tavern trying to hook up some pretty adventurer wannabe elf, just relaxing beer in hand when one of these disgusting fellows just passes by with the stench of his prey. Perhaps carrying with him some peace of old old carrion.
Just when you think its over and continue your "speech", the mad creature sits next to you and starts regurgitating hair and hooves and probably nails. Thatīs just it, your lady elf is gone but you make no movement over this awfull creature, it gives you the creep not to know what he is thinking so you leave him your ale.
If fear or disgust is what this Gnoll smelled in you, then you will certainly have the mark of a good tracker in your back.
While Gnolls hunting instinct could push them into higher ranks, well...dogs have always chased lizards. Itīs the ultimate revenge, slaves paying for a carnivorous life of eating lizardīs red meat. Lizards are very rich in protein and have always been defenceless against Gnoll attacks.
But moons and planets have aligned to give these creatures a superior intelligence, real proof of their skills as heroes.
But...if Gnolls are no good to command...then why is that the Fortress commander of Stillbog is indeed a Gnoll?
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Cepheus
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posted September 01, 2009 06:08 PM |
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Heh, what's going on here? Are you looking for info on the "Homm world" (Enroth), or the mythology behind its races?
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pei
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posted September 02, 2009 05:09 PM |
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Heh, what's going on here? Are you looking for info on the "Homm world" (Enroth), or the mythology behind its races?
To tell u the truth Cepheus i never read any official mythology of Enroth, i mean something written only to add this kind of perspective, so i started to use my imagination. I never liked campaigns, except some from HOMM2 but usually play with friends or family.
If you can point me the right direction to a tome of knowledge, then i would appreciate it. Eitherwise im sure i will not be content with some aspects of the official mythology and let my imagination free here.
So as to conclude, i will really like u to add some Gnolls facts if not much of a problem.
Thanks for the data. This was meant to be fiction but as i always say...its all organic and in constant movement.
Cya 
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 02, 2009 10:05 PM |
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Most Fortress leaders are either lizard people or gnolls, as well as their most numerous creatures and the only ones with proper arms and hands, indicating that they also build the actual fortresses. It's like elves and dwarves with the Rampart, and troglodytes (plebs and some remarkable individuals) and minotaurs (fighting elite) with the Dungeon.
I guess that the most plausible back story would be that sharing the same environment, gnolls and lizardmen originally fought it out in small warlord clans against themselves and each other, until the factions that were able to enroll both won out, being more diverse, having more advantages and covering up weaknesses. Eventually these coalesced, likely through conquest as well, into the united Fortress faction.
As for their society I would imagine a rather primitive society centered on fishing and hunting, where leaders rise and fall based on their proven ability, with their possible rights of passing judgment and sentencing based on the majority's consensus, and wwhere superstition and shamanistic ritual is very important as a force that crystallizes customs and unifies the culture.
Due to their beastiary, I would imagine they are highly proficient in keeping and growing tamed animals, possibly also to sustain their population feasibly.
As for their larger structures, since gnolls and lizard dudes could just run off and survive on their own or in small groups if they wanted to, being hunters by common practice, I would imagine they would be built by way of free, possibly volonteer labour. Most of the able bodied population would turn up at the building site when they're not engaged in catching food or crafting stuff, and build the massive fortress and other structures for their own common security against potential invaders. The Fortress is a defensive structure.
So their Fortress is like the Sietch used by the Fremen of Dune, a place built by a free, rugged and rather primitive population where they can ultimately take shelter against a very dangerous threat (of which there is no shortage in the Heroes games).
And while their focus is mainly to defend their own and survive, and hold together the power base from which they conduct their hunts and raids, and now with their powerful pets they can take the fight back to the nasty threatening outsiders 
I'm even more ignorant of the official stuff though, I've never read any of it or played campaigns 
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pei
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posted September 02, 2009 11:14 PM |
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I liked it!  Could it be possible for u to post how people and fortress creatures are related? (meaning human Fortress heroes)
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Shyranis
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posted September 03, 2009 12:24 AM |
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I liked it! Could it be possible for u to post how people and fortress creatures are related? (meaning human Fortress heroes)
Simple, humans are like cockroaches and encroach on every single environment instead of preferring a single type.
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 03, 2009 05:19 PM |
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Yes, like that 
Exploiting superstitions and legends, making spectacular magic to dazzle them... bloody charlatans giving us a bad name 
except in Heroes magic works 
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Tzeentch
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posted September 03, 2009 05:38 PM |
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Do you know anything about Gorgons? All i know is that they are some reptilian bull that kills people with starings. I figured out they have nothing to do with their Greek counterparts besides the name.
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 03, 2009 05:51 PM |
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Gorgons, hmm. They appear not to be reptilian (like gnolls and maybe snake flies).
IIRC buffalo don't really shy away that much from swamps or oases, since there's lots of lush greenery to be had there, as well as nice mud to wallow in which helps keep those pesky insects at bay. Insects are a problem for bovines anywhere, not just in marshlands.
And let's remember Heroes 3 is set in a very dangerous environment. As old Barbossa would say, "here there be monsters!" Now gorgons are powerful in their own right but there are stronger critters out there, for which a gorgon would make nice lunch. So why wouldn't the biggest and toughest gorgons be able to protect the rest in some way?
In such a dangerous place, something as extreme as a death stare is very appropriate.
Again this is all my speculation based on the creature's nature while playing the game on mostly random maps.
Anyone got more about gnolls though? This thread was about them after all. Anyway, more information and links can be found on the rather extensive wikipedia article. From there it looks that gnolls are mostly associated with hyenas, and especially "were-hyenas" of native African myths.
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pei
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posted September 04, 2009 05:35 PM |
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Do you know anything about Gorgons? All i know is that they are some reptilian bull that kills people with starings. I figured out they have nothing to do with their Greek counterparts besides the name.
Gorgons are strange creatures my fellow story-tellers but do not be fooled by those claiming them to be medusas (greek mythology). Except they hadnt got serpets in their hair, according to these night drunk stories, only one Gorgon had this evil hair cut as the rest only were serpets as a belt.
So, there are two different versions of this dangerous beast:
According to the myth, the gorgons were three sisters, daughters of the ancient (pre-titan) gods Phorkys and Keto. The sisters Sthenno and Euryale were immortal but the third, Medusa, was mortal. The gorgons were monsters with serpents for hair, brazen claws and staring eyes whose glance turned men to stone. Their wings were of gold, their bodies were covered with impenetrable scales and their teeth were as long as the tusks of wild boars. Medusa was called the gorgon or simply, gorgon.
But, the world known wizard Theodorus afirms that he once entered a Dimension Door and popped up in the future, 1607 to be more precise. There he learned the truth about the Erathian Gorgon, its a ferocious beast which is more like an ox, or gnu. This description was propagated by Edward Topsell in his book The Historie of Foure-Footed Beastes . An excerpt: "It is a feareful and terrible beast to behold, it has high and thick eye lids, eyes not very great, but much like an Oxe or Bugils, but all fiery-bloody, which neither look directly forward, nor yet upwards, but continually down to the earth, and therefore are called in Greeke Catobleponta. From the crown of their head down to their nose they have a long hanging mane, which makes them to look fearefully. It eats deadly and poisonfull hearbs, and if at any time he see a Bull or other creature whereof he is afraid, he presently causes his mane to stand upright, and being so lifted up, opening his lips, and gaping wide, sendeth forth of his throat a certain sharpe and horrible breath, which infects and poisons the air above his head, so that all living creatures which draw in the breath of that aire are greevously afflicted thereby, loosing both voice and sight, they fall into leathal and deadly convulsions.
Well, as you may imagine, if we all know this is because the powerfull wizard found his way back through time...but thats another story......
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gnollking
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posted September 11, 2009 03:50 PM |
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Ive heard that what motivates Gnolls are Lizardīs false rewards of meat, not gold not magic. If gold is what they seek, then they are after some anual dinner. Just as their cousins, the Hyenas, they attack in small groups and sometimes ambush strong enemies.
These doggie man creatures will always hunt in advantage unless they are under lizards control or just starving. If Gnolls is what you see in front of you then prepare to be entirely eaten cause these stinking beasts wont stop until nothing is left!!
What really motivates gnolls is goblins meat. There's nothing better than the brains of those small green people (through you have to kill at least 25 goblins to get a handfull of that sweet sweet green meat, goblins don't have that much inside their empty heads). Only thing that Gnolls care about is fresh goblin meat.
"If Gnolls is what you see in front of you then prepare to be entirely eaten cause these stinking beasts wont stop until nothing is left!!" that is from the book 'Gnolls, the Allmighty Beasts', written by the 'wise' Goblin Leader Gundok.
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But...if Gnolls are no good to command...then why is that the Fortress commander of Stillbog is indeed a Gnoll?
Gnolls ARE indeed very good commanders. And also the Fortress hero Drakon is a good hero.
I will now read a story from the book of Famuous Goblin Slayers:
"Once, there was a Gnoll named Drakon. Drakon was the greatest warrior in his village, and later the region, before choosing to serve King Tralossk.
But before all that, he was just a simple gnoll living his simple life. All started when Drakon was a 28 Gnoll-Years old, and wanted to do something with his boring life. He desided to go and slay some Goblins. He took 10 other Gnolls with him, and left. But unfortunately, He met a Wild Behemont during his way to the Goblins. But, that was no problem for Drakon, because he had a cousin. A cousin named Dringo. Dringo was a Witch, and an expert Goblin Slayer. Few days ago, Dringo told the secrets of Goblin Slaying to Drakon. That is how Drakon learned a powerful spell, the spell that each Goblin Slayer should know, the spell, 'Slayer'. With this spell, and his Magic Arrows, he had no problems defeating the Behemont.
After this very exciting battle, Drakon left. With his 10 mighty Gnolls, he went to do some Goblin Slaying. 2 days later, Drakon reached his destination, the village of (green) Goblins. First, he went and killed 5 Goblins living in a small hut near the river Gondo, then, Drakon went to another hut, 10 Goblins lived there, and finally, after slaying those ugly Green Goblins, Drakon went to a third hut. 35 Goblins there, after the long battle, Drakon returned to his home, with 6 Mighty Gnolls, and lived happily ever after (just joking, three days later, the wise (not really) Goblin Leader Gundok, arrived to the Gnoll Village of Grenda, and, unfortunately, killed Dringo..)
Soon after that, Drakon desided to revenge, he went to the Goblin Village, again, and killed every other Goblin except Gundok. So, Gundok was left alone, and alone he lived for almost 40 years, writing his book, 'Gnolls, the Allmighty Beasts'."
--{THE END}--
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Ignis
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posted September 23, 2009 06:09 PM |
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thats why i like this game , so many interesting creatures
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