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Elit
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posted September 28, 2009 06:33 PM |
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Edited by Elit at 18:38, 28 Sep 2009.
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Stop post before read all in this topic 
TohPointSistem
In short Ves won't change it and i will full support this. Lets you learn now how hard was for me last season 
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Jinxer read some from your comments 2 years ago and now. Look like you complete grow and change your view 
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted September 28, 2009 07:21 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 19:24, 28 Sep 2009.
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You are Right Elit.. my opinions have changed some.. Atleast some anyways.. I still think its wrong for an Emperor or Lord to be playing Newbies. But Lord vs. Squire/Baron is not to bad.
And back when I made that post.. the activity was NOT as HORRIBLE as it is now. Back then.. you did NOT NEED to fight low ranked players to get a game.. there was plenty of people to play within your ranks.. But now there is NOT. So as times have changed.. so must my opinions and way to look at things.
And as I recall you was wanting a minimum of +5 pts for killing newbies. Whereas My opinion and suggestions in recent post.. is to minimize the amount that you can lose. Which means if I try and fight a 1000 pt newbie I will win ZERO still, so no motivation to pick on the newbies.. and thats how it should be. But a Baron with 100 games and a 46-54 record is far from a newbie.. and good chance I could lose a game to him even tho I am much much higher in points... and I shouldnt lose more then 20pts when I can only win 7 pts is my new opinion only.
So lets not cloud the purpose of this thread. 
btw... before Valky starts crashing this thread complaining.. You spelled "System" wrong..
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted September 28, 2009 07:37 PM |
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Mathematics, economics, inflation, Cosmin two kilometer post trying to explain why formula is perfect ...
Reality is more simple - because of ranking system hi ranked players reach a point they don't have opponents to play and go play heroes in other places, or other games. In many cases they not coming back to TOH. In same time newbies come to TOH and also can't find opponents cos hi ranked players can't play them. Majority of them also go others places...
So what good in preserve current formula, maybe is too old, maybe need something new ?
Also if formula is so good, how to explain example with Buck and Greystole ? Inflation is already inside the formula...
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted September 28, 2009 07:54 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 19:58, 28 Sep 2009.
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You are right Infinitus....
And I think Vesuvius said it perfectly... The formula is Genious perfect when there is HIGH activity! But not as perfect when activity is low.. So since activity is low.. and for that reason ONLY.. I think a small tweaking of the loss formula to add a -20pt cap is acceptable.
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Elit
Famous Hero
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posted September 28, 2009 08:36 PM |
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I can say why i don't play. I simple loss motivation from all flame in forum all time. I loss my clan and here no more beer meets every week. Now AllKillMore play another game and try to convince me join him. I'm kinda pissed from moral what have some people. Every time when i check this forum negatives are a lot more from positives. Its supposed to be fun right?
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Fraudatio
Famous Hero
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posted September 28, 2009 10:02 PM |
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It still is fun for some of us good man Join the TW Hero style feast with Zilo, Kisp, DrOwnage or myself At least i am having a ball in these games, and i just dont start a thread to complain each time i suicide, that would be a lot of threads 
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted September 29, 2009 03:42 AM |
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Edited by vesuvius at 03:42, 29 Sep 2009.
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like anything, we need fresh blood, and in this case I don't mean players, but a new game. Homm6? possibly. If there was a kings' bounty multiplayer... I would have made a tourney for it...
The points system cannot change, because it would create that dreaded 'point inflation'. Sure, if ToH was starting now, it would be ok, but when there has been a dozen seasons of history with the same fomula, it would do previous seasons injustice.
Now, go visit my youtube video where I take my Bugatti to 253 mph at Mojave airport: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYbsgvjRD60
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FoolishMan
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posted September 29, 2009 03:20 PM |
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Now, go visit my youtube video where I take my Bugatti to 253 mph at Mojave airport: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYbsgvjRD60
i don;t have money at all and i would like to buy a brand new Bugati. How?
larry fanoga
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morgan_le_fey
Famous Hero
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posted October 08, 2009 02:49 AM |
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everything changes in the end...and sometimes not for the better.
morgan le fey
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted October 08, 2009 11:35 AM |
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along with a very crappy setup for multiplayer on ubi's rooms, it was another disappointment almost as bad as what happened in homm4.
Agree ubi room setup is not ideal, but TOH activity problems have nothing to do with this ... Here is example - right now on UBI server are 9 games in progress, 30 players involved ... And this is at day time! And now let's take a look at TOH, maybe 1 or 2 games in progress ... So problem is here on TOH, not in game itself. One more example - a couple of day before i played on UBI server 3 way game - me, Willgefors and Vasja ... All TOH registered players. Still game was for UBI ranking only, not for TOH. Why ? Because of TOH formula, Vasja have low points on TOH ... But this is not a problem for UBI server, i have low points on UBI server (3400 UBI points), still they (9000+ UBI points) played my for ranking . If i see things going wrong on TOH, i can't just stay and watch doing nothing cos TOH is really nice place to play, my most fun games are played here. TOH need wind of change to come, need to evolve, or will remain in glorious paste ...
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vesuvius
Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
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posted October 09, 2009 01:17 AM |
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ToH = 1 guy on his computer running/updating for 10 years.
UBI = A $70 million dollar megacorporation
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted October 09, 2009 02:09 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 02:10, 09 Oct 2009.
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ToH = 1 guy on his computer running/updating for 10 years.
Well.. I am not sure I woulda say it is only a " 1 guy operation" I do recall countless hours of MY time also donated to TOH over the years.. Even told my wife who was in labor for our 2nd child.. that we couldnt go to hospital until I finish the manual rankings calculations for that night
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 09, 2009 02:11 AM |
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You've got wrong priorities
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Jinxer
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posted October 09, 2009 02:15 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 02:18, 09 Oct 2009.
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Naaa.. I have just always been dedicated to helping to better the TOH and HOMM Community.. to bad after 10 years of dedication.. all I get out of it is constant flaming and disrespect from my fellow TOH'ers.
And besides.. I knew my wife had plenty of time... No water had broke or anything lol. Not like we was gonna be having the baby in the cab on the way.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted October 09, 2009 09:23 AM |
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ToH = 1 guy on his computer running/updating for 10 years.
UBI = A $70 million dollar megacorporation
Vesuvius done great job for sure, with all the money UBI have TOH in many way is better - no web ranking page for UBI, no normal save in multiplayer ranking game, no forum like TOH have. Many games end without final battle. To be assured to have final battle i play usually 4 way games on UBI.
TOH have a lot of potential in my opinion. All we need, i think, is to stimulate recruiting/teaching activity - graphical rewards maybe ? Changes in formula ... Civilized replay section, more info on running games... More control over serious events like Caesar is.
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted October 10, 2009 04:14 PM |
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ToH = 1 guy on his computer running/updating for 10 years.
UBI = A $70 million dollar megacorporation
I bet no one at ubisoft drives a veyron
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted October 10, 2009 04:17 PM |
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UBI = A $70 million dollar megacorporation
it's more $0.9 - 1.1 billion dollar megacorporation
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