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bixie
bixie


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posted October 14, 2009 11:51 PM

I gave up believing in happiness

quite frankly, nothing can make me happy now. sexually dead for a year and a half, removed from friends and family, routinely seeing whatever I believe in torn down by people on the internet, having seen horrors in places like Indonesia, darfur and uganda, whilst seeing people complaining they have the worst life in the world due to the fact they can't get they hair the way they wanted.

is there anything to believe in? every religion I turn to is a disappointment, every system of government I choose to belive in is brought to nothing, every school of thought to unheard of for social contact, every social circle too despicable, every cause is unwanted, every effort is often wasted. really all that's left is hatred, as I hated every single one of you people, and I hate myself twice as much.

I'm not trying to have a competition to see who has a worse sob story, that will just make me feel worse. Just give me a reason to believe in something again.
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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted October 14, 2009 11:54 PM

It's not that hard to get friends or a girlfriend.
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DarklordNagash
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posted October 15, 2009 12:09 AM

don't be sad bixie


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TheDeath
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posted October 15, 2009 12:21 AM

Who cares about happiness?
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Elodin
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posted October 15, 2009 01:05 AM

If you have been removed from friends and family, make new friends. Whatever sorts of things you like to do, do them. Preferably with other people. Maybe you just need to get out and meet more people rather than spending as much time on the internet.
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Corribus
Corribus

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posted October 15, 2009 01:08 AM

Have lower expectations.  Especially of people.  That's the secret to happiness.
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mvassilev
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posted October 15, 2009 01:44 AM

What madness is this? Elodin is right but Corribus errs? O_o


You don't need to lower your expectations. To channel Xerox for a minute, think about it like this: suppose you're a level 5 Warlock and are trying to find a party. Of course, the only party you'll be able to find will be with those of a similar level; all the level 80s will just laugh heartily if you try to join them - or just use you as cannon fodder. So what do you do? You shouldn't go on the forums and talk about how mean the vets are, and how everything that's more powerful than you is imba, and that if they don't nerf everything, you'll stop playing. What you should do is level up to level 80, get some good loot, and then casually look around for other level 80s. Soon enough, you'll find and/or form a group. Before you know it, you'll be dungeon-raiding with the best of them.

"At least I've got chicken."
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del_diablo
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posted October 15, 2009 02:03 AM

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Have lower expectations.  Especially of people.  That's the secret to happiness.


Do the opposite, only be friends with people you CAN be friends with. Not the asses you hang out with everyday(EX: classmates), that you just is together with.
But meet more people, that is the good thing
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winterfate
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posted October 15, 2009 02:10 AM

@Mvass: Well said!
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Corribus
Corribus

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The Abyss Staring Back at You
posted October 15, 2009 05:27 AM

Trust me, the source of most problems is that reality doesn't meet your (unrealistic) expectations.  If you have lower expectations, you'll never be disappointed.  Happiness.

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DagothGares
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posted October 15, 2009 07:49 AM

Coor is right...
Anyway, I'm still as selective of my company as ever. I gots the right, I'm a teen! But indeed, I'd be a hell of a ot less lonely if I accepted and made friends with the average person that actually acted nice towards (and not nice-so-he-won't-kill-u-next-time-we-meet-kind of nice)
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ihor
ihor


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posted October 15, 2009 08:15 AM

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Trust me, the source of most problems is that reality doesn't meet your (unrealistic) expectations.

Kinda agree. Aims in the life should be high, but reachable. Everybody have to struggle for happiness. But if your aims will be too high then you will never achieve your result and probably will not be happy...
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If you have lower expectations, you'll never be disappointed.  Happiness.

...On the other hand if your aims will be too low then you will never be disappointed but you will not do your best. If you'll never be disappointed doesn't mean you will be happy. That's the wrong conclusion. Imagine the situation: say you want to have a red ferrari, if you lower your expactation and buy old car you will probably not be disappointed with your car, it will satisfy you, but the feeling that you could have a red ferrari doesn't let you feel happy. I'm not say that happiness is red ferrari but this is just for an example.
You must always think about yourself from the best side(and be optimist) - that's my receipt.

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william
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posted October 15, 2009 08:20 AM

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Who cares about happiness?


Many people. Would you rather be upset instead?
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mvassilev
mvassilev


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posted October 15, 2009 08:44 AM

Dagoth:
It's better to be alone than to be around "average" people.
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Darkshadow
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posted October 15, 2009 08:56 AM

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Who cares about happiness?



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wog_edn
wog_edn

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posted October 15, 2009 09:52 AM

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It's not that hard to get friends or a girlfriend.
Right... then you must've been lucky and not had all yours be backstabbers or fakes or unreliable.

Imo, life sucks .. we must just try to deal in the best way possible. I were way down about a year back, even left here for a half year or so to "find myself". And I turned out, well, alright I hope and I were pretty much as low as you can get.

Simply takes way too long time and hard work to make stuff okay, but it's worth it! Try finding at least one positive thing, and stick to it!
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted October 15, 2009 12:02 PM

Bixie, why don't you just sit down, say snow you to all of those problems, get some games and just play.

Gaming never gets old, at least for me.

"Friends" stink and real friends are hard to get.
Girlfriends... meh, I already have a dilemma thread about those.
Religion... I like mine and I don't give a snow about what others think of it (what do you expect out of religion anyway?)
Sex... Idk, my libido oscillates around zero lately, so I don't give a damn.

Besides, who cares what the ppl of internetz tell you? Snow them. You're in charge of your life. A bunch of anonymous fools is NOT going to change the way you think, k?


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ohforfsake
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posted October 15, 2009 01:19 PM
Edited by ohforfsake at 13:35, 15 Oct 2009.

I can't tell you to be happy, but I can tell you what I think.
I believe we define ourself what makes our own happiness, I for one, am happy as long as what I achieve is possible, which means I've so far been happy most of the time (99,99999999999%), and I do not care if random temporary inputs of emotions due to outer stimuli tells me otherwise.


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quite frankly, nothing can make me happy now. sexually dead for a year and a half,


I don't think you should define happiness through sex, sex is great sure, it's often greater the longer you wait for it, and in that sense, it's actually much like those random inputs, such as expectation happiness, or momentary pleasure, and you should never define your happiness through such, because it's all too random (one day you may really want to go left, but if you go left, you may feel really bad, etc.).


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removed from friends and family,

But is it permanent? You can define your happiness through friends and family, and remember most of all, it's never permanent, however it may be incredible hard, it's something worth trying to achieve, being happy or not being happy doesn't really help you here, so to avoid inner torment, be happy that you're doing something about it, and focus on what you've, not what you don't have, gaining more and more, until you reach a goal, which you can dwelve in forever.

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routinely seeing whatever I believe in torn down by people on the internet,

That sounds a lot like you define happiness through the beliefs of others (religion and stuff comes to mind), why do so? You're your own master, define happiness the way you want, remember happiness is not just a random feeling, these are uncrontollable most of the time, happiness is for you being where you want, doing what you want.

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having seen horrors in places like Indonesia, darfur and uganda, whilst seeing people complaining they have the worst life in the world due to the fact they can't get they hair the way they wanted.

I know many people can't see over the tip of their own nose, it won't surprise me if I at many moments are one of these people, but don't let others get to you, only let those you love matter, others, yes it's important they're well, etc., but their opinion and action, as long as it doesn't limit the freedom of others (being well, etc.), doesn't really matter, and you should not choose to let it matter, or you give in to your momentary desires and loose control of your free will for that particular moment.

Remember we're all the time developing newer technollogy, the change so far seems very positive, if we continue like this, places like those you mention will probably get to be safe in the future, the best we can do, is to help making this future as short forward in time as possible.

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is there anything to believe in? every religion I turn to is a disappointment,

You can believe in that you exist, as you're here, observing stuff, being aware of it, and that I believe should be enough, as that means you're something special, like the rest of us.

So as you're unique, make your own belief, find out what you want, make sure it's a type of goal you can dwell in (as there exists 3 types of goals, those you do for the goal, which you'll forever be able to dwell in (like friends, love, family, etc.), those you do for the goal, but you won't be able to forever dwell in (like you try to find a cure to some disease, tries to help some people, etc.), and finally those goals you only do for the pleasures you get doing them (the goals where the road to the goal is important, not the goal itself, stuff like entertainment), go do it and achieve it.

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every system of government I choose to belive in is brought to nothing,

Then note the problems, make people aware of them, and let's all help to create a better future.

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every school of thought to unheard of for social contact, every social circle too despicable,

Don't expect of others, be what you can be for them, if they truely matters for you, but do never expect them to be more than what they're, you must like/love them for what they're, not what you want them to be. (A side story about this, I once lost a girlfriend, back when I was very young, because what I really wanted was someone to play video games with, that I cared for (and my parents weren't too happy playing with me at that time ) and I cared for this girl, but all the time I tried to change her, more to a friend that I really liked than a person I liked for who she was, in the end the relationship didn't hold, because you've to take people for who they're, not what you want them to be. You can share your wisdom, have debates where you present your arguments for this wisdom, and in through this, let the person take decisions for themselves what they want to believe in, but do not force it down on them, ever).

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every cause is unwanted, every effort is often wasted.

I disagree, and with no context I cannot really do much than saying it's not true for every cause and every effort in the world, which should be obvious.

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really all that's left is hatred, as I hated every single one of you people, and I hate myself twice as much.

Hate is a very strong word, I used it a lot when I was a child, until someone made me realise the strength of the word, now I don't hate anyone, no matter if they hate or dispise me, I think hate is too much, especially as I don't think you know us in reality.
Are you certain that it's us you hate, or yourself for coming here in the first place?

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I'm not trying to have a competition to see who has a worse sob story, that will just make me feel worse. Just give me a reason to believe in something again.


Well, you're alive, you're actually something that exists, something that's consciously aware, believe in that you can get what you want, but do not limit others freedom in achieving it.
I believe we all have something we want, what do you want?

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Trust me, the source of most problems is that reality doesn't meet your (unrealistic) expectations.  If you have lower expectations, you'll never be disappointed.  Happiness.


This reminds me very much of the belief of my cousin (Be pessimistic about everything, then you won't be dissapointed).

It's something I however disagree with. I think that fear of dissapointment, should never be deciding factor in how you percieve reality, as it is reducing your life unnecessarily.

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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


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posted October 15, 2009 03:28 PM

Relativity: it's got the world by the balls.




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TheDeath
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posted October 15, 2009 05:20 PM

China has less people living in poverty than the US?

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Who cares about happiness?


Many people. Would you rather be upset instead?
No, being upset is not the opposite of being happy. Calm and upset are opposites.

Of course, I don't say you should be depressed -- happiness' opposite -- either, I said, don't care about either of them and be "neutral" (for the lack of a better term)
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