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Mitabrin
Mitabrin


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posted November 02, 2009 11:32 PM
Edited by Mitabrin at 13:03, 26 Nov 2009.

New Commanders (my first Wog mod)

Hello all, I just completed my first project that I called "New Commanders", it features changed look of almost all of commanders (I left shaman normal, because I couldn't find anything that stack as new Fortress commanders, and because I though that it is quite good)and it completly changes two of commanders. This isn't full version yet, so some of the sounds and animations of new commanders could not be perfect, but I am still working on it. Btw. I have not made all of defs, i fact some of them are just found by me, so credits also goes to: Zbigniew, Dragonar (he helped me most), Arshtad and Darkloke.

Some views of new commanders:




And Here you can download it. link goes to my page on that you can download english and polish version (I uploaded mod on my page, because it has a download count meter and I'd like to know how famous my mod will become).

And that's it for now, I hope you'll like it. :3

Current list of Battlefield Defs makers:
Castle - Dragonar
Dungeon - WOG_EDN improved by Me
Tower - Dragonar and Me
Necropolis - Arsthad
Stronghold - Dragonar and Me
Conflux - Exx
Rampart - Zbigniew aka JonJ
Inferno - Darkloke
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted November 03, 2009 12:56 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 03:16, 03 Nov 2009.

They look very nice, and the inferno one (Darkloke) will rock them all.
I did not have the pirate with a gun, did you make it?

The only small problem would be that it is highly noticeable that the models are coming from various sources, so concept, colors, animations differ a lot. But well...this is too much asking, I know.

For having custom sounds it is difficult without a build in script, as they have same sounds as some regular creatures. I have such script done, so if you need...
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T2_2112
T2_2112


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posted November 03, 2009 02:21 AM

Quote:
Ogr z bagien [NOWY]
Plik Def ogra z bagien.
W paczce znajduje się animacja na polu bitwy.

autor: Dragonar


This one i make from MM series. I can prove this one, you can post and do not give credit for me, it is OK BUT not give credit for another who not make it.

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packa
packa


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posted November 03, 2009 08:01 AM

"Zbigniew, Dragonar (he helped me most), Arshtad and Darkloke."

Hmm...
Exx! Elemental was made by Exx.

"Plik Def Astrala, jednostki, która nadaje siena nowego dowódcę Wrot Żywiołów (Conflux).
W paczce znajduje się animacja na polu bitwy.

autor: Exx"

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packa
packa


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posted November 03, 2009 08:04 AM

Sorry,

"Def file Astral, body, which gives the new commander of siena Gates Elements (Conflux).
W paczce znajduje się animacja na polu bitwy. The package is an animation on the battlefield.


autor: Exx author: Exx"

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Siegfried
Siegfried


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posted November 03, 2009 08:29 AM

I'd like to install some of them, but not all. The confluxx astral is very well made, and the inferno succubus too. But i definitely want to replace the necro and tower commanders. The rampart commander would not be neccessary to replace, but this new version looks indeed very good. So i consider that. Stronghold and fortress commanders are good enough as they are. The idea for the standard dungeon commander is o.k., but could be done better. So i'll take a look at this new one.

Isn't it possible to just put the files in the data folder without altering the lod files? If yes, which files are for what commander?

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Mitabrin
Mitabrin


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posted November 03, 2009 05:41 PM

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I did not have the pirate with a gun, did you make it?



Actually that one was made by Dragonar...

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For having custom sounds it is difficult without a build in script, as they have same sounds as some regular creatures. I have such script done, so if you need...


It could come in handy, If you could send me this script... :3

Quote:


This one i make from MM series. I can prove this one, you can post and do not give credit for me, it is OK BUT not give credit for another who not make it.


Yes I know, Dragonar wrote me about that, but I have forgotten...
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Salamandre
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posted November 04, 2009 09:17 AM

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Isn't it possible to just put the files in the data folder without altering the lod files? If yes, which files are for what commander?


Siegfried, with your programming level it is a incredible you still don't know how to put defs in game. Tell me if need and I send you a short guide, it is very easy. Will not work from DATA.
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Siegfried
Siegfried


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posted November 04, 2009 01:19 PM

*grin*

Indeed i don't know that. I'm a programmer, but not for erm or h3, but for machines (embedded control). So this is different.

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gentledon
gentledon


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posted November 04, 2009 03:24 PM

They look nice, no h3 style tho , could you edit them ?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted November 04, 2009 07:24 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:26, 04 Nov 2009.

I don't get why people feel obliged to point endlessly that it is not HoMM style. This is WOG, and means HoMM3 modded. The original game is perfect and I can't see what it can be added in the same style. It has already everything it needs.

Today we have about 15 different styles creatures and of course they don't fit. But if everyone gives a few of his free time, tomorrow we will have 150 of them and be able to replace ALL, thus creating a new style.


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Mitabrin
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posted November 04, 2009 09:43 PM
Edited by Mitabrin at 21:44, 04 Nov 2009.

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They look nice, no h3 style tho , could you edit them ?


Well, most of those defs are made of 3d models by NWC that were used in MM7 and 8, so if they don't fit to heroes then probably nothing does.
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Salamandre
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posted November 05, 2009 01:02 PM

The brute has no shoot frames. A commander has shoot ability.
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Mitabrin
Mitabrin


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posted November 05, 2009 04:45 PM

It has not? Weird... I must accidently add wrong def to patch... *sigh* I'll fix it, but not now...

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gentledon
gentledon


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posted November 06, 2009 01:51 PM

dude its about enjoying the game and so it has to feel like a whole. If suddenly peter griffin shows up in the game it would be funny, but it wouldnt feel like your playing a nice full game of HOMM and thats what its all about Just loving the game for 10 yrs now

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Salamandre
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posted November 06, 2009 05:37 PM

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but it wouldnt feel like your playing a nice full game of HOMM and thats what its all about Just loving the game for 10 yrs now

Then play HoMM and don't bother with WoG.
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posted November 06, 2009 08:25 PM

WOG already had alot of HOMM style additions and im very happy with that, and many of the oldskool homm players would agree

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Salamandre
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posted November 06, 2009 08:42 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:43, 06 Nov 2009.

Yes and No. My wish is that WoG says bye-bye to HoMM and become a real add on, and not only a recolored amateur extension. It has the potential for. I am old school too, and this does not prohibits me to work both ways, new and old.
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Siegfried
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posted November 07, 2009 02:00 PM

Well, some things are indeed just recolored copies. But others are already quite good. In some cases it's acceptable to have just recolored old versions (lvl 8), in other cases i do not like it (messengers f.ex.).

The main prob with non-HoMM style tings is that it looks strange if used together with HoMM style things. So either all HoMM style or all different style. this is why i do not think the castle commander presented here is a very good idea. It is well made, but different style. The standard WoG castle commander fits better to standard WoG.

But it might indeed be a nice idea to rework just anything to present the whole game in a different style.

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Salamandre
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posted November 07, 2009 03:01 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 15:02, 07 Nov 2009.

Siegfried check your private messages on main page, I sent some tools days ago
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