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infinitus
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posted December 27, 2009 08:01 AM |
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Warrning, looking at saves, please no more...
Yestrday i intended to load save with Vex and what a surprise i see in game lobby another my save with other person ready to launch! I try to enter the game to clarify the situation, but another surprise - game said player with name Infinitus already exist in game ! I contacted my dear opponent in msn and ask - man, what you doing ? Response was - come, room is ready... Please notice no msn message to ask continue our 1 week old game, just room ready with player Infinitus already inside ... I say this is looking at saves - very big crime, especially for game on random map. I will continue this game only if my dear opponent will come here and explain the situation in details... In the end little off top - creep replay from one of my last game, battle was on day one, week2 on rmg2m, comp say danger is hi ... I survived only because retaliation strike of Vittorio... Hunting Firedragons extrim . Hmm, this replay is not off top at all 
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted December 27, 2009 08:28 AM |
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Well I can't say for a fact it is the same thing, but I have encountered something that seems similar. I believe it was with Phoenixreborn, but could be mistaken. He created a game, was only him in it, but it said it was 'full'. I tried a dozen times and got the same message. When I created the game, he could enter without problem. Not sure what the issue was when he created it. Could be just a glitch, and not him looking at the saved game.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 10:58 AM |
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Could be just a glitch, and not him looking at the saved game.
Chance for this is very, very low. I have 350 game for TOH and none of this games get continued with words - "Come room is ready". Always players ask first - "do you have time for game ?" or "free ?" etc. "Come room is ready" is at least not polite. Also from my 350 games 99,9% of then was hosted by me. Add to this facts probability to get right in this situation game message -"player Infinitus is already in " ...
Just to continue theme of cheating/suspicions - I started 3 way game on UBI with top UBI ranking players. Start of game was a pleasure, we connected Skype, was nice voice chat etc ... After some turns one of my opponents said he committed suicide. So we get option to continue without him, or to offer reload. But we are in UBI ranking game so hoo exit last win the game, for others is loose... Question was ho exit last, my opponents said you have less ranking points so you exit first ... Fine, i exit first. One loose for me. One win for one of my opponents. We loaded and continue ... After some turns other opponent suicide. Again i exit first, two loose for me. One more win for another opponent. We load and continue. Time was late night, sim turns are ended. I started to feel my hero is leading the game, all good. I end my turn and wait my next opponent to make his turn. My opponent not move his heroes at all. But we are in Skype voice session so we start say to opponent - "come make your, turn, etc ..." After some time we call him on mobile phone. We hear in skype his mobile phone calling him, but nothing happen ... My remaining opponent say -"told you no time limit game is bad". In the end i exit game and go sleep. As a result of such nice game, i get 3 looses ... After some days missing opponent message me in MSN - "sorry i was drunk and fall a sleep". No proposition to continue game, nothing ... This opponent was my most respected player in Heroes 5, my gosu i say. After this game - no more gods, only humans ....
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 27, 2009 12:32 PM |
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For someone to join another's save he must change his username, there is no doubt that something suspicious was going on. That sort of thing doesn't happen accidentally.
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 27, 2009 12:50 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 13:55, 27 Dec 2009.
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hahahahahaha....nice story indeed. It happened to me on ubi many times Infinitus, yes, seems horible. Lucky that I have no ranking points on Ubi, means the system doesnt work for me, so I dont care, and I dont care Ubi at all...
Again, Ive seen on ubi forums that might be a possibility of cheating when playing on those servers...couldnt understand y or how and again I dont care at all ... let them cheat, on ubi as many times they wish ... as soon as they wont do it in Toh 
Edit: about ur "reply", very smart thing indeed...we're all watching another reply may be...
He might wanna see how a real caesar costume suits 
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FireDragon-008
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 02:56 PM |
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Yestrday i intended to load save with Vex and what a surprise i see in game lobby another my save with other person ready to launch! I try to enter the game to clarify the situation, but another surprise - game said player with name Infinitus already exist in game ! I contacted my dear opponent in msn and ask - man, what you doing ? Response was - come, room is ready... Please notice no msn message to ask continue our 1 week old game, just room ready with player Infinitus already inside ... I say this is looking at saves - very big crime, especially for game on random map. I will continue this game only if my dear opponent will come here and explain the situation in details... In the end little off top - creep replay from one of my last game, battle was on day one, week2 on rmg2m, comp say danger is hi ... I survived only because retaliation strike of Vittorio... Hunting Firedragons extrim . Hmm, this replay is not off top at all
2009.12.26. 12:15:52 FireDragon-008 Infinitus u free later 20 min?
2009.12.26. 12:29:15 Infinitus FireDragon-008 hey, Fire, what you doing, i seen our save loaded in game
2009.12.26. 12:31:52 FireDragon-008 Infinitus yeah i loaded we have conti..
I do not know why H infinitus could not enter the game, but it's sure not because it is already started!
I've never looked at backups, and I'm not going! Kispagat and me was also discussed this topic! Condemn! This suspicion to beg for me, my clan my partner. Maybe if you do it repeatedly won do not you think? and I does not love you so much for long-Rounds?
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted December 27, 2009 03:43 PM |
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It is obvious - Firedragon enjoys looking at saves
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 04:43 PM |
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Here is my msn log -
23.12.2009 23:34:58 Infinitus gn
26.12.2009 13:28:42 Infinitus hey, Fire, what you doing, i seen our save loaded in game
26.12.2009 13:32:53 FireDragon-008 yeah i loaded we have conti..
26.12.2009 13:33:48 Infinitus conti with hoo ? I seen save Infinitus-Fire map palsinta or somthing like this ...
26.12.2009 13:35:34 FireDragon-008 hmm
26.12.2009 13:35:45 FireDragon-008 i loaded and hama problem
26.12.2009 13:35:56 FireDragon-008 and again loadeed
26.12.2009 13:36:06 FireDragon-008 come..
As we see i don't have Fire message "FireDragon-008 Infinitus u free later 20 min?", i looked twice in msn log to be sure Also Fire msn log is heavily edited ... I found strange at least Fire curse of action, but let's trow away my suspicion and admit was bad day, bad internet connection, bad hamachi, bad msn work, and was a simple game glitch ... Let's just hope this will not happen again ...
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted December 27, 2009 05:17 PM |
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What looks suspicious to me is something else:
why would a smart "villain" that looks at autosaves use hamachi, when he could do it on his own home network or something like that ?
and also why would someone not ask himself this question, before posting it to the forum, unless he suffers from paranoia ? 
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 05:37 PM |
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why would a smart "villain" that looks at autosaves use hamachi, when he could do it on his own home network or something like that ?
Because it's match simpler to look using hamachi, compared to create you own home network.
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 27, 2009 05:58 PM |
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Edited by DIEGIS at 17:59, 27 Dec 2009.
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I think the problem is not y he looked at, but playing heroes like chess, is destroing the pleasure of playing, not to mention hes aiming for the great title of Tournament of Honor.
Btw, does anyone know what happened with our beloved Fiur? ... I miss his attitude of playing ...
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dacian falx behind you
-knowledge itself is power-
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Natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted December 27, 2009 05:58 PM |
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Maybe he forgot hamachi on and who said Firedragon is smart? And don`t forget the smartest do mistakes sometimes 
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DIEGIS
Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
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posted December 27, 2009 06:00 PM |
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Maybe he forgot hamachi on and who said Firedragon is smart? And don`t forget the smartest do mistakes sometimes
...and less smater are doing it all the time...
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-knowledge itself is power-
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chn-vimp
Hired Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 06:04 PM |
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 u done same thing with fuir ago ~~~~~~~haha
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted December 27, 2009 06:06 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 18:15, 27 Dec 2009.
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Btw, does anyone know what happened with our beloved Fiur? ... I miss his attitude of playing ...
Yes, Fiur is having some personal family issues that is demanding is full attention. Not my place to go into details tho.
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I think the problem is not y he looked at, but playing heroes like chess, is destroing the pleasure of playing.
You have said this perfectly. That is what happens always with all past H3 and H4 games.. after some time, people start disecting maps, and memorizing patterns.. and counting hexes on map so they can place there scouts and optimize each game better and better. IMO that doesnt really reflect raw heroes ability, but more show the players ability for patience and studying and doing there homework better then others. I personally never had the patience or the desire to do all that studying. I like Diegis like to play each game by the seat of my pants.. so yes I dont play the game flawless each game, but I think my wins when I do get them carry much more weight then the robotic optimized wins.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 06:11 PM |
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u done same thing with fuir ago ~~~~~~~haha
Yes i done this once with Fiur to check my save with you Vimp. You said our save is bad, you can't enter game. So Fiur proposed his help to check this save. Save was good, and after i post in forum, this save work miraculously for you too Vimp... This was our game on Genesis, you lost this game by suicide, remember ?
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted December 27, 2009 06:38 PM |
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Because it's match simpler to look using hamachi, compared to create you own home network.
Newsflash: Once you have two computers in your home, and they are both connected to the internet through a router or a similar solution, you have your own home network.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted December 27, 2009 07:04 PM |
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Firedragon hamachi is always on, so not important have he at home second computer or not, as Natalka pointed out ...
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted December 28, 2009 07:39 AM |
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hi guys.... I'm alive.... and atm all is good....
I'm not going into any details here... cause thats my buisness only...
when it comes to playing heroes... well I've lost my "touch" and thats really bad.... really bad... maybe 1 day I return..
well then Happy New Year everyone...
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted January 02, 2010 06:38 PM |
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Here is the end of this unlucky game. Firedragon show real progress on rmg2m. Soon he will beat me big time, i sure This game Firedragon pick hero first - Ossir. I pick Vittorio, long time not played him ... Infinitus (Vittorio)-Firedragon(Ossir). I apologize if i was wrong about looking at saves ...
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