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Salamandre
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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted July 12, 2010 08:50 PM |
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I am amazed to see how some people still believe in 3.59 and try to discuss it.
First, I don't see the purpose of a new version, all can be already done with current except adding new town, but this will be the same problem in next one.
Secondly, it took several months to the old team to upgrade from 3.57 to 3.58, and we are told that upgrade to 3.59 are going to take several years. Most of those who believe in it do not know exactly how were going things when 3.59 was planned: Slava was part of team. Once he leaved, people keep dreaming that it can be done, but they do not have the skill and experience. You say WoG 3.59 will have a campaign? Who will make it? Improvising mapmaker is not a one day task, and surely out of programmers skills. It can take up to two years to make a wog campaign, another two years. Or improvise it quickly and give a snowty one.
3.58 had a major bonus, Fnord. Current team is young and without any history/achievements in Heroes. It is not because you can script difficult things that you will create a good game.
@DJ: I am not trying to change your opinion. I just say that they do not care about your or our opinions. So keep it for what is worth...
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Darkloke
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WoG Team artist
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posted July 12, 2010 10:50 PM |
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Btw, the thread asking for Commanders concept was initiated by Darkloke, which is not part of the team, and the thread died shortly, without a single answer from the CoreWoG members. Maybe because all creatures proposed were from World of Warcraft?
I am not a member of the team anymore? O_o Ok, i even dont know about this. *lol*
Yes, practically i do nothing right now for CoreWoG and heroes modding in the whole, coz i now have different priorities, but formally i am still in CoreWoG team, we discussing future of the WoG with Corwin and i already done some theorycraft for WoG 3.59.
Regarding that thread... I created that one thread not to ask corewog team members about what do they think, but (being a member of the team) - to ask opinions from simple wog players - what do they think about it and to post their proposals. Lack of the feedback is the problem of these "simple players" and not mine. 
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Dj
Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
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posted July 12, 2010 10:51 PM |
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Secondly, it took several months to the old team to upgrade from 3.57 to 3.58, and we are told that upgrade to 3.59 are going to take several years. Most of those who believe in it do not know exactly how were going things when 3.59 was planned: Slava was part of team. Once he leaved, people keep dreaming that it can be done, but they do not have the skill and experience. You say WoG 3.59 will have a campaign? Who will make it? Improvising mapmaker is not a one day task, and surely out of programmers skills. It can take up to two years to make a wog campaign, another two years. Or improvise it quickly and give a snowty one. Quote:
dude! from 3.57 to 3.58 they implemented some frankenstiened units and scripts and some other small details. from 3.58f to 3.59 they are implementing new scripts, WHOLE NEW TOWN[s] [which btw they added it as the 10th town and it is not news, u can find it on youtube] and a campaign who it's been working on for a long time [as i said frgments from the campaign were published on a website.that is a difference and other features.
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3.58 had a major bonus, Fnord. Current team is young and without any history/achievements in Heroes. It is not because you can script difficult things that you will create a good game.
and again...bad accusations.
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@DJ: I am not trying to change your opinion. I just say that they do not care about your or our opinions. So keep it for what is worth...
seriosuly now...are u kidding me?*rollseyes* in this thread..in the 1st post..did i mention anything that the question is adressed to the corewog team? no, i asked you. i already showed them my suggestion and if not they have time to read the forumS.this forum was so free, u could discuss anything. hundreads of pages of ideas of projects with no graphic [only some portraits and small things]and contests and members having lots of fun. that was before the likes of you appeared.. ofcourse your maps are giving a lot of fun [it compensates], but let the others speak and say their ideas.
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted July 12, 2010 10:55 PM |
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Although I appreciate Dj's attention to detail, I voted "don't care", simply because Heroes as a whole is a mishmash.
Speaking of 3.59, it would only make sense if it introduced additional towns. Frankly, I'd rather have more user-friendly tools like the Russians have been releasing lately. For example, a graphic UI for importing defs and such.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted July 12, 2010 11:19 PM |
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this forum was so free, u could discuss anything. hundreads of pages of ideas of projects with no graphic [only some portraits and small things]and contests and members having lots of fun. that was before the likes of you appeared..
I don't know what you smoked lately but accusing me to spoil this forum of the fun is weird and unjust. You ask for opinions, if they don't fit what you need, you accuse. Continue to speak about whatever you want, I will just skip the threads.
@Darkloke: sorry, i am lost about who is or not in the CoreWoG team. According to what Bad wrote times ago, nobody could say exactly who is in the team. Hoping that you will realize that hunting goblins in WoW is less beneficial to us than making amazing creatures and come back.
@Vlaad: I already asked them for such a tool and provided them all the material needed for that (I can say it took me a while to rearrange the list of all defs x2). I just hope it will not be so long as 3.59. A tool for importing instantly any custom def in game by only choosing the creature to replace, all other actions are automatic.
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Darkloke
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WoG Team artist
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posted July 12, 2010 11:34 PM |
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Hoping that you will realize that hunting goblins in WoW is less beneficial to us than making amazing creatures and come back.
And i suppose u do realize, that i am just doing the things i like the most and i havent to do the things, for which i have not mood. Heroes modding was really fun in due time and i already spent a lot of time on it, but its time now to spend on something else. May be i will return to the world of heroes modding, may be not - we'll see. Anyway , i've got ur point and there is some truth in ur words too.
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