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blizzardboy
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posted December 09, 2011 05:35 PM |
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"I have a chance of winning the nomination? Oh ****..."
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gnomes2169
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posted December 10, 2011 05:48 AM |
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We must remember that Newt does have a few skeletons in his living room, watching the TV and eating popcorn. Sure, none of them are recent, but he does have problems that are easily discovered (if you spend the time to look for them at all).
Just look up on google "Newt Gingritch's policy problems" or "Failures" and you'll get a few lists...
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DagothGares
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posted December 10, 2011 06:35 PM |
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Not wanting to say anything, but Ginrich has the charisma of a used car salesman, which is a quality I'd think is necessary if you want to be the next king America.
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Brukernavn
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posted December 11, 2011 01:48 AM |
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There will be a new debate in a few hours, so it could get interesting.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted December 11, 2011 02:18 AM |
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debate + interesting = DOES NOT COMPUTE
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Elodin
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posted December 11, 2011 02:35 PM |
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Shyranis
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posted December 11, 2011 04:31 PM |
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Call it the America budget plan for 100% accuracy.
The only Presidents to actually balance a budget in the last 100 years were Eisenhower and Clinton. That says a lot about how many presidents have treated debt like free money. Do you honestly think Gringrich/Romney would be any better at all?
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted December 11, 2011 04:43 PM |
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Compared to what we have now? I'm curious to find out.
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posted December 11, 2011 09:16 PM |
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Yesterdays debate has caused some headlines. Here's how I saw it:
Santorum didn't make much of an impact.
Bachman was both really good and really bad. She was good when attacking Romney and Gingrich, lumping them together. But she was bad in her usual way, and with the painstakingly obvious attempt to steal Cains supporters.
Perry had one of his better performances, probably because the heat was off him.
Romney hurt himself this time. His 10,000$ bet will not resonate well with a lot of people. He also wanted to distinguish himself from Gingrich, but actually accomplished the opposite.
Gingrich did fairly well considering the circumstances, being attacked by the other candidates, as you would expect. But he appeared as a lesser trustworthy candidate, and his usual "one-liners" did not resonate with the crowd.
Paul had one of his best debate performances this year, looking like the most serious candidate of them all. He could attack Romney and Gingrich for their flip-flopping, but was untouchable himself.
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posted December 12, 2011 01:07 AM |
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So does Ron Paul actually have a chance of winning?
To me, he seems like something from a super advanced alien civilization that has come light years ahead of the other candidates.
I did a test and it told me to vote on Obama.
I voted to support his healthcare reform, a tax for the 1-2% richest people of the US, support for fair trade, support to invade Iran if there was a 100% sure that they had nuclear weapons (not nuclear power), support for HBTQ marriage etc, against death penalty, against having weapons (wtf how can that be legal in your country) and against torture.
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Brukernavn
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posted December 12, 2011 02:04 AM |
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So does Ron Paul actually have a chance of winning?
Here is a collection of some after-debate discussions from ABC; Video. Even the MSM is admitting that he could win!
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted December 12, 2011 02:17 AM |
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Ron Paul has 0 chance of winning. He's way too difficult for the Republicans to control and Independents have almost no chance.
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posted December 12, 2011 03:43 AM |
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So does Ron Paul actually have a chance of winning?
To me, he seems like something from a super advanced alien civilization that has come light years ahead of the other candidates.
I did a test and it told me to vote on Obama.
I voted to support his healthcare reform, a tax for the 1-2% richest people of the US, support for fair trade, support to invade Iran if there was a 100% sure that they had nuclear weapons (not nuclear power), support for HBTQ marriage etc, against death penalty, against having weapons (wtf how can that be legal in your country) and against torture.
America's gun is a historical legacy thing, they started as a bunch of colonest fighting for themself and it's even written into their Constitution that they can bear arms, so there's no chance of reversing that . The effect of guns on crime / safty have also been a contenious issue, some reaserch say it doesn't make it worse and some say it even makes it better though personally I find that hard to believe as well.
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gnomes2169
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posted December 12, 2011 04:55 AM |
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So does Ron Paul actually have a chance of winning?
You haven't been in America lately, have you? He's to traditional for his own party (the one that supports traditions) by about a century on most matters (not all). He makes me laugh a little bit.
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posted December 14, 2011 02:51 PM |
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Latest Iowa poll:
22% Gingrich (-5)
21% Paul (+8)
16% Romney (-)
11% Bachman (-2)
9% Perry (-)
8% Santorum (+2)
5% Huntsman (+1)
1% Johnson (-)
Gingrich is falling and Paul is picking up Cain supporters. One point behind the lead in the first primary state only weeks away, is a little more than 0% chance of winning. This is not the same as in 2008!
Paul has won elected office 12 times before, and his son (Rand Paul) won and became Senator in 2010 with the support of the tea party.
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Gingrich has dropped 5 points in the last week and he's also seen a significant decline in his favorability numbers. Last week he was at +31 (62/31) and he's now dropped 19 points to +12 (52/40). The attacks on him appear to be taking a heavy toll- his support with Tea Party voters has declined from 35% to 24%.
Paul meanwhile has seen a big increase in his popularity from +14 (52/38) to +30 (61/31). There are a lot of parallels between Paul's strength in Iowa and Barack Obama's in 2008- he's doing well with new voters, young voters, and non-Republican voters:
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posted December 14, 2011 02:56 PM |
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This is not the same as in 2008!
Ron Paul is a politician, and that's all you have to say really.
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posted December 15, 2011 03:53 AM |
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Ron Paul as a candidate would be very amusing though, since he is essentially a early 20th century politician so to speak, the very idea that he'll probably cut military spending by half will drive the republican establishment nuts.
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posted December 15, 2011 04:31 PM |
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He would do a better job at "fixing the system" than anybody elected, even if trough unconventional means. And that alone disqualifies him from any chance at winning.
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posted December 15, 2011 04:57 PM |
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I'm not one to make wild claims, but if Ron Paul managed to get elected I honestly wouldn't raise an eyebrow if he got assassinated. He wants to exterminate 65-years worth of government and military expansion. If there was ever a time in the past century where some Hollywood-style government plot were to occur, that would be it. There are numerous ideologically-driven bureaucrats and operatives that he would be putting out of a job. He wouldn't shake up the system. He would drop a ****ing earthquake on it.
It isn't 2008. He's a major contender now, but I still don't see him as electable. The reason is that if he could get the primary, his ideas would start to get focused on very heavily and spread throughout the media. As soon as his philosophy on the civil rights movement hit the news he would be a goner. For those that know about Ron Paul's opinions on it, you know what I'm talking about. That would turn away huge droves of people.
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xerox
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posted December 15, 2011 09:22 PM |
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He wants to exterminate 65-years worth of government and military expansion.
how is that a bad thing? we don't want a warmongering american world police
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