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posted January 28, 2012 05:29 AM |
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Important Information About the Type of People the GOP Field Panders to
"Such tales work precisely because there are a great many people in America just like Bachmann, people who believe that God tells them what condiments to put on their hamburgers, who can't tell the difference between Soviet Communism and a Stafford loan, but can certainly tell the difference between being mocked and being taken seriously. When you laugh at Michele Bachmann for going on MSNBC and blurting out that the moon is made of red communist cheese, these people don't learn that she is wrong. What they learn is that you're a dick, that they hate you more than ever, and that they're even more determined now to support anyone who promises not to laugh at their own visions and fantasies." - Matt Taibbi
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posted January 28, 2012 05:49 AM |
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More dangerous than the prospect of him bull****ting is the prospect that he isn't bull****ting, which I think is very likely, although it is convenient that he says he would have it by 2020; i.e. just before he would be done with what would be his 2nd term.
He's an old politician with a lot of seniority, and I've noticed with the language and message he sends that his mind is still at least partially calibrated to the 1990s, during the peak of his career. He likes glory and fanfare and at the very least it's well-known that he's a big proponent of continuing a heavily-funded space program, and if he apparently wants a colony by 2020, make no mistake... it would have to be heavily funded, well into the range of moronically expensive. Probably won't happen even if Gingrich were to be elected, but you can still expect him to give the green light to putting the space program into high gear. It is a bit of an opportunistic time period since treaties concerning moon colonizing are unclear ATM, but the elephant in the room concerning it all is: what do you get out of it. It isn't enough that space is ****ing awesome or that NASA occasionally develops something that is later used to sell a commercial product on TV. Inadvertent useful discoveries occur everywhere, not just within NASA.
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posted January 28, 2012 06:07 AM |
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The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
Oh, but I do like that line...
Nice link, Gootch, unfortunately, it says nothing of the GOP candidates themselves or "Pandering to" anyone, but I do get the picture. Then again:
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In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.
There are Liberal extremists too. All sides have flaws. ((An aside note: I wonder if there is such a thing as a moderate extremist...? That might just be contradictory...)) The GOP candidates range from extreme (Newt) to moderate (Romney), as does their target audience. Claiming that all conservatives are intolerant is simultaneously being hypocritical and claiming that all stars are yellow (Obviously, those blue and red supergiants are just in denial).
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posted January 28, 2012 02:27 PM |
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The money would be donated by the grateful Cuban people, silly.
Seriously, if such oratory was coming from the Middle East or just a random third world country, it would have been razed to the ground by a righteous NATO "preventive strike". Don't you people have muzzles for your rabid dogs? At least?
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posted January 31, 2012 04:40 AM |
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I would love it if he did that.  
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posted January 31, 2012 11:49 PM |
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Even though Obama might disagrees with the conservative's rhetoric, and even though some of the GOP candidates may say some freaky things, he himself has actually put some really scary legislation into affect. For instance ordering the assassination of American citizens without a trial, signed the NDAA which allows for indefinite military detention of American citizens without due process, and hypocritically opposing SOPA but supporting the worse ACTA. He's not exactly delivered on his promise of "hope" or "change"...
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posted February 01, 2012 12:03 AM |
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I think that's because the president doesn't have that power any more. There hasn't been a president fighting for underclass liberties in many, many years. The welfare scheme that Obama started was absolute rubbish, but it was the first attempt at social justice I've noticed the US government to have made in a long time... shame it turned out to be helping the pharma corps line their pockets.
I hope Obama stays in. The fanaticism following Ron Paul now is really creepy, and all this End the Fed stuff seems to be obfuscating his bigotry and religious conservatism.
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posted February 01, 2012 01:49 AM |
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Important Information About the Type of People the GOP Field Panders to
These are the types of people the democrat party panders to:
Marxists
Communists
anti-theists
pro-abortionists
anti-Americans
haters of the Constitution
drug users
perverts
environmentalist wackos
anarchists
the uneducated
the lazy but greedy
The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democrat party. Remember that.
I'm not a member of the GOP, by the way. I am a freethinker with life experience, thus an independent conservative.
Obama's tyrannical idea of forcing religious organizations to cover contraception and the abortion pill will cost him many votes.
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Donohue said he's been contacted by Protestants, Mormons, Jews, and others who want to join forces with the Catholic League and the bishops to overturn the new rules.
"I've never seen anything like it," he said. "They are lining up single file. Quite frankly we are going to take the fight to the Obama administration ... to me it's political suicide."
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posted February 01, 2012 02:34 AM |
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Let's keep it civil, please.
And on topic.
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posted February 01, 2012 03:56 AM |
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I hope Obama stays in. The fanaticism following Ron Paul now is really creepy, and all this End the Fed stuff seems to be obfuscating his bigotry and religious conservatism.
This is the same type of rhetoric as "Obama is a Muslim Communist". Or are you referring to something in particular?
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posted February 01, 2012 04:22 AM |
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This is the same type of rhetoric as "Obama is a Muslim Communist". Or are you referring to something in particular?
I don't think it's ridiculous to assert that Ron Paul may be a bigot. He has made homophobic and racists comments before, or if he hasn't, has allowed them to fly under his name without batting an eyelid.
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H.R.7955
Latest Title: Family Protection Act
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-22] (introduced 8/19/1980) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 8/19/1980 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to House Committee on Ways and Means.
Title V: Domestic Relations -
Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.
This disturbs me as well, because domestic violence is a cultural problem that involves state governance.
Prohibits Federal preemption of State laws relating to child or spousal abuse, or juvenile delinquency. Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds for the operation of any programs dealing with such problems.
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posted February 01, 2012 06:10 AM |
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These are the types of people the democrat party panders to:
Marxists
Communists
anti-theists
pro-abortionists
anti-Americans
haters of the Constitution
drug users
perverts
environmentalist wackos
anarchists
the uneducated
the lazy but greedy
The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democrat party. Remember that.
I'm not a member of the GOP, by the way. I am a freethinker with life experience, thus an independent conservative.
Obama's tyrannical idea of forcing religious organizations to cover contraception and the abortion pill will cost him many votes.
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"Such tales work precisely because there are a great many people in America just like Bachmann, people who believe that God tells them what condiments to put on their hamburgers, who can't tell the difference between Soviet Communism and a Stafford loan, but can certainly tell the difference between being mocked and being taken seriously. When you laugh at Michele Bachmann for going on MSNBC and blurting out that the moon is made of red communist cheese, these people don't learn that she is wrong. What they learn is that you're a dick, that they hate you more than ever, and that they're even more determined now to support anyone who promises not to laugh at their own visions and fantasies." - Matt Taibbi
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posted February 01, 2012 01:29 PM |
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This is the same type of rhetoric as "Obama is a Muslim Communist". Or are you referring to something in particular?
I don't think it's ridiculous to assert that Ron Paul may be a bigot. He has made homophobic and racists comments before, or if he hasn't, has allowed them to fly under his name without batting an eyelid.
Really, the newsletters? The few sentences from 20 years ago that were published when he was practicing medicine, didn't write himself and has disavowed? I can see how that makes him a closet bigot, contrary to every word he has ever spoken and every legislation he has supported.
Reality check on the newsletters - 1
Reality check on the newsletters - 2
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H.R.7955
Latest Title: Family Protection Act
Sponsor: Rep Paul, Ron [TX-22] (introduced 8/19/1980) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 8/19/1980 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to House Committee on Ways and Means.
Title V: Domestic Relations -
Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.
This disturbs me as well, because domestic violence is a cultural problem that involves state governance.
Prohibits Federal preemption of State laws relating to child or spousal abuse, or juvenile delinquency. Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds for the operation of any programs dealing with such problems.
As you yourself write, it involves STATE governance, not federal. All this bill does is prohibit the FEDERAL government to get involved in such domestic issues, which is a State issue per the Constitution.
In case you've missed it, Paul is a very outspoken advocate for State rights and a small Federal government.
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posted February 06, 2012 12:04 AM |
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posted February 06, 2012 09:58 AM |
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Mitt Romney has stormed to wins in Florida and Nevada.
If he gets the nomination Barack Obama is in SERIOUS trouble since Romney can thrash him in critical states like New Hampshire, Florida, Ohio and Nevada.
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If Romney wins the nomination, Obama will have his 2nd term. Romney has done worse in every state compared to '08.
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posted February 07, 2012 07:28 PM |
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If Romney or Gingrich or Paul or, god help us all, Santorum wins the nomination, Obama will have his 2nd term. They're all terrible and unqualified to be president.
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posted February 07, 2012 11:30 PM |
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If Romney or Gingrich or Paul or, god help us all, Santorum wins the nomination, Obama will have his 2nd term. They're all terrible and unqualified to be president.
Fixed.
Well, not quite that far but I do not think they could defeat Obama, more because the President has unlimited funding and free media than one being more qualified than the others.
On an aside note:
Today is my state's caucuses, and do you know what? I'm going to be going to the Republican caucus. Why? Two reasons:
1) Since every party's is at the same time (7pm), I have to choose one and
2) Since Obama is completely uncontested, the Democratic caucuses would be boring. 
My projections for what will happen with my state, Romney will win followed by Paul (moderately closely or at least not being absolutely decimated). I do not know which one I will cast my vote for yet, but it will be one of those two.
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posted February 07, 2012 11:36 PM |
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The challenger's electability will depend heavily on the state of the economy in about 8 months. Prognostications at this point are pretty pointless.
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posted February 08, 2012 04:36 PM |
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Unless somebody can rig a financial crisis, things will continue getting better and Obama will take all the credit. Dow Jones and Nasdaq are doing better now than before the downturn. It's looking like the Democrat's Raegan-Bush years. Hopefully Gingrich doesn't make some sort of sweep near the end and take the primary in the end, or he could be the Republican Mondale (who campaigned extensively against public debt). I think Romney clearly has the best shot at keeping as many states red as possible this election cycle.
If the Republicans don't get their acts together, the Dems might even squeak in a Bush Sr./Quayle 1 term president as well in 2016.
The problem is, the country will more or less be run the same by the two parties regardless who wins and what their platform is. The American public needs to get more accepting of third parties instead of just "Right and Left" "Black and White" "Right and Wrong" "Liberal and Conservative". There is more to life than two sides tearing the 80% of people in the middle apart.
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