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posted September 22, 2012 03:11 AM |
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Gnomes, income is more than wages!!!!! Intrest from a bank account is income. Money from a winning lottery ticket is income. Money won through gambling is income. Money from investments is income. Ect.
Romney had an income and paid taxes on the money though certain liberals claimed he had not paid taxes in 10 years. Romney is a successful businessman and knows how to invest. Sounds like the type of person the US needs to lead us out of the economic funk Obama and friends have gotten us into.
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posted September 22, 2012 03:49 AM |
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I never said that he didn't pay taxes, Elodin. But by federal law, the taxes that Romney pays are filed under "Investments and holdings" not "Income." And yes, the two are filed separately... I have no idea why...
Also, the US government isn't allowed to make investments in private firms like Romney does. Therefore I don't believe that the argument that Romney would be able to handle the economy because of his experience is technically valid... 
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posted September 22, 2012 01:42 PM |
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Maybe these tax releases will sway some of those special 47% of Americans to vote for Romney. Oh wait, nothing can do that 
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You american guys should seriously consider monarchy again. Sure, you had a bad experience with the british taxes and stuff but the british had an entire super empire to manage and modern monarchies are more laid back nowadays. nullThe king of Sweden is pretty awesome and you should like him and swedish monarchy for several reasons.
1. Not british.
2. Seems to be a christian.
3. White old male.
4. Politically neutral.
5. The kings duties are of representative and ceremonial nature so he can help USA with their foreign relationship problem.
6. Sweden is a historical enemy of Russia.
7. Sweden has always been friendly towards foreign cultures and especially the american culture.
8. Sweden has not been at war since 1814 so without a doubt Swedish rulership could stop the neverending wars and loss of american lives.
9. If USA was forced into a war anyway then unlike an american president who would sit safe behind his desk, the swedish king would wear his finest uniform, mount his finest horse and then charge into the enemy ranks while swinging his sabre.
10. Take a look at all those honours he got and be impressed.
11. Cheaper than a president.
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The swedish flag is very beautiful and american christians should love it if it was their own. A golden holy cross on a clear blue sky. Now imagine the golden cross in the blue area of the american flag and you get the new colonial flag of the United American States of Sweden(UASS).
13. Once under swedish ownership... I mean rulership, Sweden can for the sake of America threaten Russia by building missile silos in northern Sweden. As payback for the Cuba crisis.
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posted September 22, 2012 02:38 PM |
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The year is 2012 and you're suggesting a monarchy, an old stained dinosaur of politics?
Haha, oh wow.
Swedish monarchs have been bad anyway.
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posted September 22, 2012 02:56 PM |
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11. Cheaper than a president.
The last one had more weight than all the rest. Paying someone exorbitant sums to do something that a street urchin could manage is not very desirable.
The point I was making is:
Leadership is in essence against the idea of democracy, a country ruled by the people, for the people, what we instead have now, is a representative democracy, essentially a mini (restricted) dictatorship.
So do we really want to rule ourselves, or do we want someone competent to do it for us? Because the two are VERY different. Even if you took a nation-wide vote on every issue you'd still not represent the whole nation's interest, just the voice of the majority (51/49 for example) and we don't even have that much. What we have, is a decision to choose the representative who doesn't even require the majority of total votes to win, but he/she gets "represents" us as a whole?
So I ask again, are the people really just holding out for the messiah of leadership to sprout up and lead America into a golden age, or do we want a real democracy where every individual regardless of intellect or contribution (over 18) gets the same privilege and weight as an educated, intelligent, and philosophically sound individual on making decisions. (sure it's a little extreme, but the point is still there) is the 'average joe' who struggles with every day problems, really of a sound mind to make decisions that affect every American? Should his vote have the same weight as someone more adapt? Is every citizen now leader material? (making decisions on the future of nation IMHO requires nothing less than leadership qualities in the individual)
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posted September 22, 2012 05:33 PM |
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13. Once under swedish ownership... I mean rulership, Sweden can for the sake of America threaten Russia by building missile silos in northern Sweden. As payback for the Cuba crisis.
Uh... the Cuban crisis was largely because of the US missiles in Turkey so the payback then was reversed.
As for the king - modern day monarchs in the West have less power than a random government secretary in most countries and 95% of their job is to stand like pylons and radiate symbolism during public events. That normally costs a lot too.
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posted September 22, 2012 06:56 PM |
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Radiating pylons at the least has a stable rate of "father for our nation" symbolism, while Presidents is.... the same as Prime Ministers: 100% useless, but at the least they can not claim to be national fathers.
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posted September 22, 2012 08:17 PM |
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That depends on how much power the president (and the prime minister for that matter) has according to the respective constitution/law system. As for the claims - that also depends, in the Bulgarian constitution for example the president (or more accurately, the presidential institution) is described as a "symbol of the unity of the nation". Not a father indeed but frankly I see no need for Freudist references.
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posted September 22, 2012 09:03 PM |
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I never said that he didn't pay taxes, Elodin. But by federal law, the taxes that Romney pays are filed under "Investments and holdings" not "Income." And yes, the two are filed separately... I have no idea why...
Also, the US government isn't allowed to make investments in private firms like Romney does. Therefore I don't believe that the argument that Romney would be able to handle the economy because of his experience is technically valid...
The difference is leopards vs lions. Of course handling private investments and enterprises isn't identical to the federal government, but the general idea is that he's highly experienced with the game of management and number crunching, which is a plus. Being governor is also probably the #1 position to gear you up for being president, other than maybe being a head secretary or vice president where you get direct exposure. The point is: he has a nice background to move up to a political executive position.
Yea, any president is going to be perpetually surrounded by advisers in every single facet at all times. We could have a lifeguard at a public swimming pool for president and as long as they simply paid attention, life would probably go on. It's not exactly ideal though. The president is at the center of the nexus where all of that advice is filtering into, and they need to be able to sort it all out instead of being a walking PEZ dispenser.
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posted September 25, 2012 01:33 AM |
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Here’s hoping Mitt Romney’s plan to overhaul federal regulations doesn’t include airline safety standards :
“When you have a fire in an aircraft, there’s no place to go, exactly, there’s no — and you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem. So it’s very dangerous"
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posted September 25, 2012 01:55 AM |
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Obumy today declined to meet with heads of states from other nations because he want to be on the liberal show "The View" for campaigning purposes.
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posted September 26, 2012 08:14 PM |
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Since not many of you yanks seemed thrilled about either Romney or Obama, may I ask, is there's any of you that's going to vote for Gary Johnson?
I'm not an American, so I obviously won't vote, but if I could I would probably vote for Johnson. Wasted vote or not, a 2-party system is bad and I believe in being idealogical when trying to make a change.
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posted September 26, 2012 08:45 PM |
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*reading Gary Johnson's wiki*
Interesting person, it's too bad the republicans have such an obsession with drug prohibition and nonexistant military obligations otherwise we probably would have heard more about him.
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Aha...Here's the real reason he was completely ignored by the Republicans:
"He has stated that he does not believe Iran is a military threat, would use his presidential power to prevent Israel from attacking Iran, and would not follow Israel, or any other ally, into a war that it had initiated"
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posted September 26, 2012 09:00 PM |
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He's the libertarian candidate. I do like him. Unfortunately voting for a third candidate in the US is pretty much akin to throwing your vote away. I'd rather vote for Romney, someone I'm not thrilled about, than Obama, who is downright awful. Then again, I voted Libertarian in 2008 because I despised both the GoP and Dem tickets, so who knows...
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I'd not throw my vote away and certainly would not want my vote to give Obama a better chance of being reelected. America needs to get Obama out of the oval office.
Obama has been quite bad for the pocket books of most Americans.
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Median household incomes have fallen 8.2 percent since President Obama took office and continue to drop despite the official end of the recession, a new study shows.
Data compiled by Sentier Research found that since the economic recovery technically began in June 2009, median household income has dropped 5.7 percent. As of August, that median income was $50,678 -- also down 1.1 percent from the month prior.
And since Obama took office in January 2009, the median income has fallen 8.2 percent, from $55,198 to its present figure.
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posted September 27, 2012 01:36 AM |
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He's the libertarian candidate. I do like him. Unfortunately voting for a third candidate in the US is pretty much akin to throwing your vote away.
Yes and no. Seeing as how you're not living in a battleground state (Illinois is Obama's throne of power), you might as well vote for whoever you want.
If you're in Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Arizona, Virginia, etc., I'd probably go with one of the two big boys.
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Elodin
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posted September 27, 2012 01:41 AM |
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Obama, made a comment the left-wing media refuses to report on and omits from articles. Obama has tried to get videos with the comment pulled from you tube. Apparently freedom of speech is not something Obama agrees with.
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“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
That line appeared almost nowhere in the old media where Obama’s supposed defense of free speech dominated. The broadcast networks ignored it and only Jake Tapper noted that Team Obama had also tried to get the video pulled from YouTube for violation of “terms of use.” The New York Times skipped the line, ironically in an article headlined: “Obama Tells U.N. New Democracies Need Free Speech.”
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posted September 27, 2012 01:49 AM |
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Hollywood/journalists are biased in favor of social democrats. This is old news.
Some are worse than others. I started reading CNN online about a year ago and I'm absolutely convinced that they're pushing an agenda, albeit they're less obvious and execute a good deal of subtlety in it. MSNBC is their younger & dumber brother, and is more akin to a pheromone-crazed male basset hound going into battle.
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posted September 27, 2012 02:07 AM |
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Obama, made a comment the left-wing media refuses to report on and omits from articles. Obama has tried to get videos with the comment pulled from you tube. Apparently freedom of speech is not something Obama agrees with.
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“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”
That line appeared almost nowhere in the old media where Obama’s supposed defense of free speech dominated. The broadcast networks ignored it and only Jake Tapper noted that Team Obama had also tried to get the video pulled from YouTube for violation of “terms of use.” The New York Times skipped the line, ironically in an article headlined: “Obama Tells U.N. New Democracies Need Free Speech.”
So you're saying it's a good thing to insult religions?
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