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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted March 31, 2011 05:36 PM |
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What a funky final this one , don't know whom I should root for.... have you started yet?
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albolabris
Known Hero
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posted March 31, 2011 05:59 PM |
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Nope, blizz went underground
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bLiZzArdbOY
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted March 31, 2011 06:09 PM |
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I'm rooting for blizzardboy!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 31, 2011 06:32 PM |
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First pera vs bliz game was impressive, go orcs! Third game was painful.. I don't think anyone could blame pera for starting with arcanes.
Deathy vs albo fame 1 was excellent. Who knew that orcs could pull it off with a defenseless charge and maulers on the front! That early prismatic breath vs inferno was kinda.. impossible However despite the incredible overwhelming jinx, albo wasn't entirely blameless. I mean tactics placed demons on a silver platter for elves to do as they like with them, staying back to gate would be safer. Final game was fun if really lucky for dungeon, at least for a first round Lack of elation/swiftness/retribution hurt.
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Pitlord
Known Hero
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posted April 01, 2011 10:59 AM |
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sorry noct but my pc crashed yesterday. i dont know if i fixed the problem now.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 01, 2011 06:10 PM |
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it is a bit annoying that many of those replays end before the end of the battle.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted April 01, 2011 08:39 PM |
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Why? They players surrenderd. If there is no point in continueing why waste time you can spend on bloody vengance?
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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bLiZzArdbOY
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted April 01, 2011 09:06 PM |
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Well I was rather disappointed that I couldn't longer savor the feeling of my Haven actually winning, even if it was against a gimp Fortress without its vaunted berserkers, but Kojot is a married man with like 8 children or something so he wanted to move on to the next game.
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"Folks, I don't trust children. They're here to replace us."
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 01, 2011 10:18 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 23:45, 01 Apr 2011.
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well, but when the guy has 20 wraiths remaining and a whole stack a zombies and he surrenders... ok, he was getting butchered by haven, but he could have still tried
some statistics based on the replays I've downloaded. number of times each unit was used in this tourney (note that I probably missed some matches)
Haven
conscript 2
brute 12
marksman 5
crossbowman 15
squire 6
vindicator 13
imperial griffin 17
battle griffin 3
inquisitor 7
zealot 16
paladin 11
champion 9
archangel 14
seraph 6
necropolis
skeleton archer 7
skeleton warrior 13
plague zombi 6
rot zombi 12
spectre 12
poltergeist 7
vampire lord 7
vampire prince 11
archlich 13
lichmaster 7
wraith 15
banshee 4
spectral dragon 5
ghost dragon 14
inferno
familiar 24
vermin 7
horned overseer 6
horned leaper 25
cerberus 5
firehound 24
succubus mistress 7
succubus seducer 24
frightful nightmare 7
hellmare 24
pit lord 6
pit spawn 25
archdevil 28
archdemon 3
dungeon
assassin 12
stalker 7
blood fury 12
blood sister 7
minotaur guard 9
minotaur taskmaster 11
grim raider 15
brisk raider 6
deep hydra 9
foul hydra 12
shadow matriarch 11
shadow lady 11
black dragon 15
red dragon 6
sylvan
sprite 4
dryad 18
war dancer 7
wind dancer 15
master hunter 12
arcane archer 10
druid elder 8
high druid 14
silver unicorn 13
pristine unicorn 9
ancient treant 11
savage treant 11
emerald dragon 8
crystal dragon 14
dwarf
shieldguard 13
mountain guard 10
skirmisher 12
harpooner 12
black bear rider 6
white bear rider 18
berserker 4
battle rager 19
rune patriarch 15
rune keeper 9
thunder thane 13
flame lord 11
fire dragon 4
magma dragon 8
lava dragon 12
stronghold
goblin trapper 11
goblin witch doctor 9
centaur nomad 0!!
centaur marauder 20
mauler 5
warmonger 15
sky daughter 1
earth daughter 19
executionner 11
chieftain 9
foul wyvern 6
pao kai 14
untamed cyclop 2
bloodeyed cyclop 18
academy
master gremlin 21
gremlin saboteur 5
obsidian gargoyle 19
elemental gargoyle 7
steel golem 13
magnetic golem 13
archmage 14
battle mage 12
sultan djinn 4
djinn vizier 20
rakshasa raja 10
rakshasa kshatra 16
titan 24
storm titan 2
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted April 01, 2011 11:45 PM |
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Necro and Inferno are two factions that can have some very strong comebacks due to MotN and gating, but I suppose they deemed it a lost cause.
@Fauch:
Damn....
I think around 4 of those 6 Horned Overseer uses were mine People underestimate those newly improved units.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 01, 2011 11:50 PM |
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well, I thought that maybe some people forgot about some changes. everyone is so used to just ignore horned overseers.
but when it comes to centaurs, I don't understand.
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted April 01, 2011 11:50 PM |
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Albo I imagine we'll have time to conclude the tourney on Saturday or Sunday. Best of 5 can end up taking quite awhile, plus I would have to do it in the evening so it would end up going very late into the night for you, so I figured the weekdays wouldn't work.
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted April 02, 2011 12:21 AM |
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Quote: sky daughter 1
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Towerlord
Promising
Supreme Hero
Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted April 02, 2011 05:52 PM |
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I really use the Sky Daughters often vs. Necropolis(more often than Earth Daughters actually), and sometimes vs. Inferno , with Adv. Chain Lightning they really should be an option to be reckoned even vs. other towns!
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 02, 2011 06:30 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 18:32, 02 Apr 2011.
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I'm not sure what we can conclude about the balance between units.
inferno case is particularly interesting.
especially considering succubus seducers and archdemons.
80% of players picked the succubus seducers, but in many replays, they got killed before they could even seduce.
archdemons are stronger than archdevil, yet 90% of players pick archdevils. is it for the extra speed or for summoning pit lords? in many replays, those summoned pit lords seemed to not make a big difference, and I think sometimes they didn't even get to act.
though, I have to say, I think the range for summon others is a bit short, but the ability is pretty strong.
another fun fact : in the 2nd round of the tourney, the fire dragon was picked more often than the magma dragon
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PeterFarkas
Adventuring Hero
LeBronTosaurus
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posted April 02, 2011 06:56 PM |
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Wow, these balance changes surely produce interesting results.
More MH than AA? Vamp lords 7 times? No nomads? (has nobody seen Elvin's Stronghold vs. Necro replay?) FTW?
More Silvers than Palestines? Sylvan fought this much with Necro, Inferno and Dungeon?
About Inferno:
- Devil vs. Demon is quite specials vs. attributes. Like someone has written before, Pull other is a really useless spec, especially taking in consideration Inferno's general playing style and stats (it's better to put pressure and rush than to pull). Pit Lord summoning is a really good ability, especially against factions like dwarves and orcs.
- The first thing every hero (particulary Might hereos) should do is to kill Seduxens whatever comes. For Warlocks and Necromancers maybe Familiars would be annoying as well but who would use Seduxens against Necro anyway?
About Fire Dragons:
Bumming Dwarves lol
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted April 02, 2011 07:02 PM |
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Quote:
About Inferno:
- Devil vs. Demon is quite specials vs. attributes. Like someone has written before, Pull other is a really useless spec, especially taking in consideration Inferno's general playing style and stats (it's better to put pressure and rush than to pull).
Not at all true. Like you said, Inferno is a good offensive faction with lots of gated reinforcements, but a turtled opponent can nullify your numbers and severely cripple you. Archdemons are a great way to break that up and expose their units. Academy is a key faction that it can be devastating against. The problem is that it's a situational ability, whereas summoning pitlords is always good to have, so archdevils are simply a safer pick.
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted April 02, 2011 07:08 PM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 19:15, 02 Apr 2011.
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Haha yeah Blizzboy is right, if you guys only knew how much I would have killed to have Arch Demons in my first game versus Pera.
but hey how could I have known that...
By the way Witchhunter used Centaur Nomads in his game versus Nocturnal.
Which reminds me, hey Witchhunter send me a HCM about when you have time to play our games.
Edit: Hmm I really need to start using mediafire or something instead of speedyshare.
I noticed that some of my old replays cannot be downloaded.
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B-E-T-A
Promising
Legendary Hero
Guess Who is Back?
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posted April 02, 2011 08:05 PM |
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Because I have not found out any form of organization about the cup of misfortune I simply decided to call it quits and forfeit. I'm out of here! See Ya all in HoMM6!
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There is no good or evil, only madness. The question is "Just how mad are you?"
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 02, 2011 11:02 PM |
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This is outrageous BETA. You not only you don't give a crap about making others wait all this time and now instead of simply asking me or checking a few pages back you quit. What makes you think I'm going to accept such disrespect to me and the others? Or did you think you were doing me a favour? Do tell.
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