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MrDragon
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posted February 02, 2011 06:55 PM |
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Edited by MrDragon at 19:01, 02 Feb 2011.
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You need movement to cast spells? How does that work? Only yoga masters can cast armageddon? Why? I though spells needed just waving around a staff or an incantation, not acrobatics.
Two words: Somatic Components.
Spell casting as depicted in popular fantasy typically requires elobrate hand gestures and is therefore best executed in clothing that does not restrict the upper body movement to much.
A simple gestural inaccuracy supposedly can cause a miscast or even cause magic to backfire.
Simply wearing gloves reduces your tacticle senses and manual dexterity.
At least, that is one popular explenation why most casters IN FANTASY WARFARE wear little or no armor.
(Can't argue realism of a man's atire when he's shooting fireballs all over the place.)
Another is that heavy armor actually interferes with the magical energies channeled through the body or space around the caster.
There are plenty of explenations for why they don't wear armor.
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DarkLord
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posted February 06, 2011 12:42 AM |
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now me..
HAVEN
H6 Marksman (because of H6 upgrade)
H6 Praetorian (100%)
H5 Griffin
H5 Inquisitor (100%)
H6 Sun Rider
H5 Angel (they look pretty same)
H5 Rakshasa (100%)
H5=4 H6=3
NECRO
H6 Skeleton (100%)
H6 Ghoul (1000%)
H6 Spectre
H6 Vampire (i like H6 Vampire a lot)
H5 Lich (100% what have you done to him..?)
H5 Wight
H6 Fate Weaver
H6 Lamasu (100%)
H5=2 H6=6
INFERNO
H5 Cerberus (3 heads guys!!!)
H5 Succubus (looks more demonic)
H6 Pit Lord (100%)
H5 Devil (100%)
H5 Demon (none to be honest)
H6 Maniac (none to be honest)
H5 Nightmare (10000000000000000000% sure and 1000000000000000 times better)
H5=5 H6=2
ORCS
H6 Goblin
H5 Centaur (i imagine centaur as a male)
H6 Orc Mauler
H6 Dreamwalker (100%)
H6 Jaguar Warrior (100%)
H6 Cyclops
H6 Harpy (a really hard one here..)
H5=1 H6=6
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Avirosb
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posted February 06, 2011 05:46 AM |
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It's incredible what can be forgiven once you see the creatures in motion. Several of the female units look a tad bit masculine though.
Here's looking at you, Succubus.
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SwampLord
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posted February 06, 2011 07:20 AM |
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I greatly prefer the HVI designs; some of the HV designs exuded a very strong Warcraft influence which I wasn't too fond of. HVI seems to have gone in a more traditional HoMM art style, which I like.
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OnLy4DuNgEoN
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posted February 06, 2011 09:21 PM |
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Heroes 6 units are WAY better as design. In battle, we`ll have to see 
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moonlith
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posted February 08, 2011 12:06 AM |
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Am I the only one who thinks it retarded that just about 80% of all H6 units for some unimaginable reason have gigantic claws? Or spikes?
And honestly, glory of light? I could have thought of better things to put there rather than some snowty random idea that came dropping out of absolutely nowhere.
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Sleeping_Sun
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posted February 08, 2011 12:14 AM |
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Am I the only one who thinks it retarded that just about 80% of all H6 units for some unimaginable reason have gigantic claws? Or spikes?
And honestly, glory of light? I could have thought of better things to put there rather than some snowty random idea that came dropping out of absolutely nowhere.
Lets hear it. What would you put instead of glories? But it has to be logical, to matches with the lore...
If you are looking only at the spikes you'll just see spikes and nothing else. Pay attention to something else and you'll see that H6 is simply perfect. 
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Rolend
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posted February 08, 2011 01:06 AM |
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I would say 90% wins HoMM6... I like the less cartoonish style and... Some cool ideas... (Except Breeder, It looks like a mutated worm cooked in an oven)
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DarkLord
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posted February 09, 2011 01:12 AM |
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I would say 90% wins HoMM6... I like the less cartoonish style and... Some cool ideas... (Except Breeder, It looks like a mutated worm cooked in an oven)
HoMM5 had jokes like imp, skeleton and unbeatable by it's stupidity Gargoyle!!! and so HoMM6 has Breeder.. Developers are "Joking"!!!
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Avirosb
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posted February 09, 2011 04:43 AM |
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Eh, the Gargoyle wasn't badly designed, it just wasn't something one would expect to see on the battlefield.
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alcibiades
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posted February 09, 2011 08:03 AM |
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Am I the only one who thinks it retarded that just about 80% of all H6 units for some unimaginable reason have gigantic claws? Or spikes?
And honestly, glory of light? I could have thought of better things to put there rather than some snowty random idea that came dropping out of absolutely nowhere.
Lets hear it. What would you put instead of glories? But it has to be logical, to matches with the lore...
If you are looking only at the spikes you'll just see spikes and nothing else. Pay attention to something else and you'll see that H6 is simply perfect.
Well I agree with you on the Spikes, which I think are both redundant and ugly (most of the Necropolis creatures look like **** in the upgraded form because of all the metal ware, and the Lacerator just looks stupid).
However, I'm also very curious as to what you would put instead of the Glory in Haven. Much as I despise the Glory (and I do, a lot), I must admit I've only seen one good suggestion for a really innovative unit I think would be a good replacement (and I wasn't the one who made the suggestion).
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Avirosb
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posted February 09, 2011 08:50 AM |
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Well, if you have to rule out clergymen (Sister), footsoldiers (sentinel) and horse units (sun rider), there's little to choose between.
So,umm... "Peasant... of... Light"?
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DarkLord
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posted February 09, 2011 07:34 PM |
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Am I the only one who thinks it retarded that just about 80% of all H6 units for some unimaginable reason have gigantic claws? Or spikes?
And honestly, glory of light? I could have thought of better things to put there rather than some snowty random idea that came dropping out of absolutely nowhere.
Lets hear it. What would you put instead of glories? But it has to be logical, to matches with the lore...
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Instead of glories.. ALKONOST!!! or Valkyrie... or Crusader...
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DarkLord
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posted February 10, 2011 05:07 AM |
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Mounts are out!
Let's compare to the Homm5 ones!!!
H5 vs H6
STRONGHOLD
 
HAVEN
 
INFERNO
 
NECROPOLIS
 
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SwampLord
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Lord of the Swamp
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posted February 10, 2011 05:56 AM |
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I like the Heroes VI creatures much more; they feel like the classic, more "realistic fantasy" look of the HoMM series as opposed to the somewhat warcraftian creatures of Heroes V.
That's not to say I disliked the Heroes V ones, many of them were gorgeous, but I prefer the Heroes VI art style.
As far as Stronghold goes, I like the horse mount opposed to the ox mount; there's a reason why knights and generals ride horses instead of oxen.
Some of the hero mounts in V were just plain silly, I'm glad to see the horses back.
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MattII
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posted February 10, 2011 07:58 AM |
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I prefer the look of the H5 ones myself, Horses are just oh so clichéd it's not funny.
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alcibiades
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posted February 10, 2011 08:05 AM |
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Am I the only one who thinks it retarded that just about 80% of all H6 units for some unimaginable reason have gigantic claws? Or spikes?
And honestly, glory of light? I could have thought of better things to put there rather than some snowty random idea that came dropping out of absolutely nowhere.
Lets hear it. What would you put instead of glories? But it has to be logical, to matches with the lore...
Instead of glories.. ALKONOST!!! or Valkyrie... or Crusader...
Well, except the Valkyrie is sort of redundant with the Angel already being there, plus there's a deffinitely clash of cultural influences if you put the Valkyrie and the Angel into the same faction.
And as for Crusader ... I actually agree with Nightterror, I don't really think he's an inspired choice. We already have one human footman (the Sentinel), another one seems somewhat redundant.
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kodial79
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posted February 10, 2011 08:47 AM |
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I think Glories were a good choice. Maybe the design felt like they just got out of the Marvel Universe but oh well...
Glories like I said in another post were inspired by Christian Mythology (yeah, I'm an atheist and to me that's mythology).
Read this article in wikipedia: Glory (Religion)
That's where H6 Glories came from, and I think they're very fitting.
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DarkLord
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posted February 10, 2011 12:21 PM |
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Edited by DarkLord at 12:25, 10 Feb 2011.
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Well, except the Valkyrie is sort of redundant with the Angel already being there, plus there's a deffinitely clash of cultural influences if you put the Valkyrie and the Angel into the same faction.
And as for Crusader ... I actually agree with Nightterror, I don't really think he's an inspired choice. We already have one human footman (the Sentinel), another one seems somewhat redundant.
Ok what about Inquisitor? I know that we have a Vestal already, but she is a healer.. Inquisitors/Priests, could be an offensive ones, with "anathema" spells and so on..
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i still insit on Alkonost! (angelic bird with human head, whoever doesn't know)
p.s. btw i think if we had Male Priest instead of Vestal, maybe Glory will be accepted easier.. Otherwise she kind of looks too similar to Vestal..
also design of the creature doesn't look "divine" at all.. especially when i saw update on web-site.. it's like yellow voodoo something.. 
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Avirosb
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posted February 10, 2011 12:29 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 12:29, 10 Feb 2011.
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also design of the creature doesn't look "divine" at all.. especially when i saw update on web-site.. it's like yellow voodoo something..
That's because all the models are dependant on particle effects in order to look good, which is greatly difficult to render in flash.
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