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posted March 28, 2011 11:35 PM |
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JoonasTo
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posted March 28, 2011 11:52 PM |
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I don't see any problem with that.
We've got electric, hydrogen, gas and ethanol powered cars already. I assume at least one of them will be a viable option to use in a city in 50 years, I say, go for it.
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posted March 29, 2011 12:00 AM |
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Yeah I agree, I see no problem with that.
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posted March 29, 2011 12:04 AM |
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How tastefully provocative.
Dude, 2050 is when we have peddle-powered nuclear hoverbikes, who the hell would even want to drive a car then?
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posted March 29, 2011 12:09 AM |
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I see no problem with that. Actually, I support it.
Happening in Europe that is. Lulz. I have no intention of driving one unless it saves me money.
That's a pretty steep projection anyway. 40 years ago was 1970. It was a world without internet and cars that were less than half as fuel efficient. Banning traditional cars by 2050 might be ceremonial legislation by that point in time since nobody will be driving them anyway. Or not. Who knows.
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posted March 29, 2011 02:15 AM |
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Edited by Fauch at 02:17, 29 Mar 2011.
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how the hell are they going to do that? most people have already forgotten how to walk. though, I think there are way too many cars. I see them as a handy tool, but not something everyone should own and use every day.
if the system wasn't so idiotic that you have to drive for 50 km to go to work, we wouldn't need them so much.
but they are only talking about pollution, not all the others nuisances caused by an excessive number of cars.
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posted March 29, 2011 07:10 AM |
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They should ban cities too.
Those are REAL annoying.
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posted March 29, 2011 08:27 AM |
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Rather pointless and I guess that's more than half of the idea - by 2050 the regular petroleum-based fuels will be almost or fully non-existent and the prices will be sky-high so want it or not, you'll have to leave the old jalapy anyway.
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posted March 29, 2011 08:29 AM |
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by 2050 I'll have grappling hooks that are shot from my nipples. cars won't be necessary.
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posted March 29, 2011 09:27 AM |
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Are they banning "cars" as in "vehicles on 4 wheels that can be used to drive long distances on interal refillable batteries" or are they proposing "Lets get a infastructure that surpasses cars for each city before 2050, so we can get done with it and ban cars inside citites"?
The article seems to be quite spesific enough to warrant they want nr 2 done, not nr 1 because the countyside still exists.
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posted March 29, 2011 02:53 PM |
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It may sound like an okay idea to reduce carbon emissions and whatnot, but I've a gut feeling that this is really going to hurt business that rely on urban transportation. The businesses include:
- Public transport
- Courier delivery
- Road workers
- Automotive maintenance
- Council horticulture
- Outdoor advertising
I mean, how else are people gonna buy chocolate milk?
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posted March 29, 2011 03:18 PM |
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The article says explicitely "CONVENTIONALLY" powered cars.
Considering that you CAN buy highway-able cars with exclusively electrical engine NOW - what do you think will have happened in 40 years time from now?
So where's the problem with that?
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posted March 29, 2011 03:24 PM |
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UE doesn't need the ban, there will be no oil left at 2050 anyway.
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posted March 29, 2011 03:30 PM |
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Yes there will.
There are obscene oil beds in Siberia and Alaska/Canada that haven't been tapped into for economic reasons. Extracting them from those frozen areas is too much of a headache, for now.
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posted March 29, 2011 03:54 PM |
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are you sure those will last for 40 years?
and even if they do, the price will be up so high oil will no longer be a cheap source of energy for an average person, making traditional cars useless anyway (too expensive to use).
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posted March 29, 2011 04:42 PM |
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Edited by Shyranis at 16:43, 29 Mar 2011.
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There are obscene oil beds in Siberia and Alaska/Canada that haven't been tapped into for economic reasons. Extracting them from those frozen areas is too much of a headache, for now.
This is true, the Oil money in Alberta alone provides every resident with a free college education and low taxes.
Lucky.
Anyway, the deposits further north than that are expensive to extract, but they are plentiful and if the price of oil goes up enough, it will actually be profitable to tap the oil sands further north.
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Note: Alberta is our Texas. Oil, Cowboys, Calgary Stampede, Home of the Conservative Party.
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posted March 29, 2011 07:15 PM |
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Siim Kallas, the EU transport commission, insisted that Brussels directives and new taxation of fuel would be used to force people out of their cars and onto "alternative" means of transport.
"That means no more conventionally fuelled cars in our city centres," he said. "Action will follow, legislation, real action to change behaviour."
Ah, leftism at its finest. "You will do what we say or you will pay." Then it becomes "You will do what we say or you will die and you children will die and you spouse will die and your dog will die and we'll kill everyone you ever knew."
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posted March 30, 2011 01:05 AM |
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You also need to account for the huge amount of oil shale in the world. Converting it into liquid form costs more money, so it hasn't really been tapped into yet for the same reason oil hasn't been tapped into much in really cold places, but that's also a potential enormous source of oil. USA, China, and Australia have huge amounts of shale oil.
We might not be filling oil into trains, planes, and automobiles in several more decades, which will cut the vast majority of the demand, but petroleum is still used in various other products.
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posted March 30, 2011 01:35 AM |
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Okay, vikings, time to leave the EU and create the Nordic Union now and merge Sweden, Norway and Denmark into the Kingdom of Scandinaviatlantis?
I'm serious.
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posted March 30, 2011 01:37 AM |
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I think Norway is probably content not being a part of Sweden or the EU and amassing gigantoid amounts of wealth. That's what I would do  Sorry X-ero my boy.
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