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Kwarc
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posted July 15, 2011 02:15 PM |
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Edited by Kwarc at 16:48, 17 Jul 2011.
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Kwarc's Towns
Welcome I will show my proposition of new castle to Heroes 6 with heroes and army. I also give theirs alternatives, skills and dwellings. Under this town army I add units that are connected with one of hero's ability.
So my first castle is Preserve. It will be town of Elves and sylvan creatures. General lookout of Preserve is mix of Rampart from HoMM 3 and Sylvan from HoMM 5. Hero's available ability I put in this order:
~ Neutral
~ Advanced
~ Ultimate
Creatures connected to Summoning skills are:
~ Timber Wolf
~ White Tiger
~ Sacred Deer
~ Winter Bear
~ Night Crow
Hero with Summon can call sylvan units, but which stack will join then is random. Number of creatures is connected to Hero's level.
PRESERVE:
Racial Skill:
Avenger 1: Every time selected allied creature performs an attack, hero will assault the same target.
Avenger 2: Every time selected allied creature performs an attack, hero will assault the same target with higher chance to deal critical damage.
Avenger 3: Every time selected allied creature performs an attack, hero will assault the same target with even more chance to deal critical damage.
Avenger 4: Every time selected allied creature performs an attack, hero will assault the same target with the highest chance to deal critical damage and prospect to stun.
Gauge: Fills up every time that allied unit die or deal critical damage.
Might Heroes:
Wayfarer (Neutral)
~ Wanderer - Hero negate penalty from moving on pathless tracts (Passive).
Pilgrim (Tears)
~ Wanderer - Hero negate penalty from moving on pathless tracts (Passive).
~ Pathfinder - This skill give all alies units the ability to walk on all terrains without penalty during combat and increase theirs Speed (Passive).
~ Gift of Nature - Double number of creature in chosen unit (Active).
Conqueror (Blood)
~ Wanderer - Hero negate penalty from moving on pathless tracts (Passive).
~ Imbue Arrows - Allows Conqueror to enhance his or her arrows with attacking or cursing spells (Active).
~ Dragon Strength - Double Hit Points and Damage of chosen unit (Active).
Magic Heroes:
Hermit (Neutral)
~ Summon - Hero is able to call sylvan creature to support in battle (Active).
Ascetic (Tears)
~ Summon - Hero is able to call sylvan creature to support in battle (Active).
~ Spirit Shield - Reduce damage dealt to target using hero's Mana (Active).
~ Absolute Protection - Attacks against hero's creatures are always unlucky (Passive).
Archon (Blood)
~ Summon - Hero is able to call sylvan creature to support in battle (Active).
~ Stalker - Target will deal 150 percent of their maximal Damage in next movement (Active).
~ Nature's Luck - Units in hero army always have luck rolled on attacks (Passive).
Core Units:
1. Nymph > Dryad | Sylphide
There are Sprite created by Earth Dragon to protect forrest of Ashan.
Creature with weak skills, typical support unit.
Dwelling: Magical Garden > Magical Copse
a) Flyer - This creature can move on to any free tile on the battlefield during its turn, regardless of the obstacles in the way (Passive).
b) Curing Hands - Dispels all negative effects from chosen friendly creature (Passive).
c) Spray Attack - Creature simultaneously attacks three adjacent tiles occupied by the enemy (Passive).
d) Custody (Upgrade) - Increase Attack and Defense of friendly stack occupying nearby squares (Passive).
e) Symbiosis (Alternative) - Once per combat, this creature can heal and resurrect Treants, or be healed by them (Active).
2. Hern > Satyr | Faun
Hern are lesser servant from Sylanna's cortege. There was sended to Irollan to teach Elves poetry, music sculture.
Average unit with average statics. Bacis will have Surma, Upgrade Lute and Alternative Harp.
Dwelling: Inn > Hostelry
a) Bard - Creature with this ability increase Luck of all units in hero's army (Passive).
b) Ballad of Bravery (Upgrade) - Indicated friendly creature get maximal Luck and Morale in next movement (Active).
c) Song of Serenity (Alternative) - Chosen enemy unit will deal minimal damage and can't attack weaker branch (Active).
3. Hunter > Ranger | Sharpshooter
Only best shooters in Irollan are able to become Hunter and serve in Elven army.
Strong distance unit.
Dwelling: Hunting Blind > Watchtower
a) Distance Unit - This creature can inflict damage remotely (Passive).
b) Double Shot - Nothing can hinder creature from firing two full shots at the enemy instead of just one (Passive).
c) Precision (Upgrade) - Obstacle don't reduce damage dealt by this unit (Passive).
d) Arcane Arrows (Upgrade) - Distance attack of this unit can stun his enemy (Passive).
e) Silver Bow (Alternative) - This unit ignore part of target's Defense (Passive).
Elite Units:
4. Druid > Druid Elder | High Druid
Druids are spiritual commander of Elves. There have very strong connection with nature and Mother Sylanna.
Quite good Caster. Druid Elder is better Caster with defensive stats, High Druid is better Shooter with offensive stats, Basic is neutral.
Dwelling: Stone Circle > Cromlech
a) Distance Unit - This creature can inflict damage remotely (Passive).
b) Caster - This creature can use a set of magical spells (Passive)
~ Lightning Bolt, Endruance
~ Sacred Grove - Create square (3x3) where all units occupied them deal minimal damage (Upgrade).
~ Battle Arena - This spell made area (3x3) that creatures in them deal maximal damage (Alternative).
c) Power Transfer (Upgrade) - This creature can increase the hero's Spell Power by its own Spell Power value (Active).
d) Mana Feed (Alternative) - Creature can transfer its reserve of mana to own hero (Active).
5. Lycanthrope > Werewolf | Werebear
Bravest and strongest Elves from Irollan are sacred to Primal Dragon Asha. There are serving to her Mother of Life face in her mission of protecting Ashan. During lunar phase of Full Moon their got initiation and transform into Lycantrope form.
This creature is strong DPS. Bacis has universal stats, Upgrade offensive and Alternative defensive. Lycanthrope look like Wolf Elf from King's Bounty: Legend.
Dwelling: Moon Hummock > Lunar Hill
a) Lycanthropy - There are small chance that low percent of enemies killed by this unit will join to this creature (Passive).
b) Dual Forms (Upgrade; Alternative) - The creature can assume Elf or Beast shape (Active).
c) Agility (Upgrade) - Up to the next turn, this creature gains bonus to Attack for every tile it walks (Passive).
d) Reflex (Alternative) - Allows this creature to strike an opponent in melee combat before it can retaliate (Passive).
e) Dash (Alternative) - This creature has a chance of pushing the target one tile aside and negate their Initiative (Passive).
6. Treant > Ancient Treant | Battle Treant
Treant are aged personifications of nature. Sylanna gave them task to be Shepherd of Trees. There are are know in whole Ashan from their wisdom and there are giving advise to Elven Kings.
Typical tank ofc, but Alternative is better in offensive than Ancient Treant.
Dwelling: Holy Forrest > Holy Wilderness
a) Large Creature - This creature is bigger than others and occupies four squares on the field (Passive).
b) Entangle - Creature's attack entangles enemy with its roots and immobilizes it (Passive),
c) Bark - Reduce damage from Earth, Water or Light and increase damage from Air, Fire or Dark (Passive).
d) Rootedness (Upgrade) - Increase Defense and HP, but also deactivate Entangle and immobilizes them (Active).
e) Rage of Forrest (Alternative) - Increase Attack and Damage, also reduce Speed and deactivate Entangle (Active).
Champion Units:
7. Green Dragon > Emerald Dragon | Crystal Dragon
This Dragons are children of Sylanna. There are living in unapproachable of Irollan and taking care from theirs lair of wildlife.
Dragon like dragon.
Dwelling: Dragon Cliff > Dragon Mountain
a) Large Creature - This creature is bigger than others and occupies four squares on the field (Passive).
b) Flyer - This creature can move on to any free tile on the battlefield during its turn, regardless of the obstacles in the way (Passive).
c) Acid Breath (Basic; Upgrade) - This creature attacks all the targets occupying two squares forward (Passive).
d) Caustic Belch (Upgrade) - Decrease enemy's Defense and chance to deal Critical Damage (Passive).
e) Rust Skin (Upgrade) - If this unit is subjected to melee attack, its Acid Blood deal damage from Earth to enemy (Passive).
f) Mirror Scales (Alternative) - This ability allows it to reflect hostile spells back upon the caster (Passive).
g) Prismatic Breath (Alternative) - This creature attacks all the targets within the random radius depending to Luck (Passive).
Neutral Units:
8. White Tiger (Core)
This brave creature live in backwoods forest of Ashan. There are known of their passion in fight and connection to nature. That's make them symbol of Irollan and Elven philosophy.
This unit is good DPS.
Dwelling: White Cave
a) Group Attack - Performs an attack against neighboring enemy if this enemy is attacked by an allied creature (Passive).
b) Aggression - This unit is immune to effects reducing Initiative or Speed (Passive).
c) Whine - After using this ability creature misses one turn but is able to make turns more often (Active).
9. Sacred Deer (Elite)
Deers that reach to hundred years of life are sacred to Sylanna. This creature isn't like another animals. They are sapient and gifted by protection of Earth Dragon.
Quite good universal unit.
Dwelling: Silver Glade
a) Object of Workship - If some of this units die, ability increase Attack and Defense of allied stacks (Passive).
b) Urge - If this creature has walked more than 2 tiles it also inflicts half-damage on the stack standing in the line of attack (Passive).
c) Benediction - This creature is immune to cursing effects (Passive)
10. Winter Bear (Core)
In highest mountain of Grimheim live Winter Bear. They are strong and agressive creatures protecting their territory from foreigners.
Tank like tank.
Dwelling: Mountain Lair
a) Roar - This creature has a chance to frighten a target and its neighbors when attacking (Passive).
b) Armored - This creature is resistant to all spells and effects that decrease Defense (Passive).
c) Crippling Wound - In a successful attack, this creature has an additional chance of decreasing the target's Speed and Initiative (Passive).
11. Night Crow (Core)
This bird isn't like another crows. They are much bigger then rest of their race. That's because they are devoted to Primal Dragon Asha. That's made them Phoenix' cousins. Theirs task is guard night sky of Ashan.
It isn't typical DPS, but Night Crow have good Attack and Initiative.
Dwelling: Nocturnal Nest
a) Flyer - This creature can move on to any free tile on the battlefield during its turn, regardless of the obstacles in the way (Passive).
b) Enraged - This creature's Attack increases during combat when any stack of friendly units dies (Passive).
c) Unstoppable Blow - This unit is immune to effects negating counterstrike (Passive).
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HappySkeleton
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 17, 2011 03:20 PM |
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only the dragon isn't a humanoid...
Does that mean that treant is a humanoid?
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Minnakht
Known Hero
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posted July 17, 2011 03:21 PM |
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Edited by Minnakht at 15:22, 17 Jul 2011.
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Well, yes. Compare this:
H5 Sylvan lineup:
Racial ability: Avenger
1. Dryad/Nymph
2. Blade Dancer
3. Hunter
4. Druid
5. Unicorn
6. Treant
7. Green Dragon
Your 'Preserve' lineup:
Racial ability: Same thing
1. Same thing
2. Different thing
3. Same thing
4. Same thing
5. Different thing
6. Same thing
7. Same thing
...that's not very original, is it? I can't really comment on this at all, as I'd be just as good off commenting on the original Sylvan. Especially since you included alternative upgrades, which H6 does not provide.
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Does that mean that treant is a humanoid?
Two arms, two legs, stands upright on legs only, face, no tail. Definitely humanoid.
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HappySkeleton
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 17, 2011 03:37 PM |
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Two arms, two legs, stands upright on legs only, face, no tail. Definitely humanoid.
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Kwarc
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 17, 2011 04:57 PM |
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@Minnakht:
Racial Ability: Yes it's named Avenger like in H5, but it's totally different skill. Also talent of hero's types are quite new. Old creature got some changes like Nymph turned into support unit.
So what you thing I should do? I know you want to see completely new army, but it's hard to made new set of units linked to Elven climate. I firstly think about Pegasus Rider in Elite and Treant as Champion, but Rider will be too similar to Sun Crusader and I think that H6 need true dragon. But I promise my next Town will be more innovated.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted July 18, 2011 12:06 AM |
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@nighty: hush, mylady. He probably just overread your post^^
also...quite a used lineup indeed...but, honestly: You rarely see a very different sylvan lineup. at least the unicorns are out, which IS an innovation that most don't dare, and the bladedance is off, too (YEAH!) ... but for my taste, it are in fact still quite much humanoids, too...
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Davy
Known Hero
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posted July 18, 2011 03:15 PM |
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Good, the only problems I have is that most of the abilities are copied-paste from HOMM5 game, put more thought in the abilities of your own.
Druid and Werewolf-shifter? You should put the Unicorn or that neutral deer unit on the Druid spot, and combine the druid with the lycanthrope, give the druid shapeshift abilities or something like that, your town is too much humanoid for my personal tastes right now, only the dragon isn't a humanoid...
I also think the druid and the werewolf could be combined,since the most important thing about the werewolf is in my opinion not,that he is a humanoid wolf,but that it is a person who transforms into that wolf.
I also think,that the unicorn could return,I mean after all it was there all the time and is also a well known fantasy creature.
I also think,that the green dragon should be replaced,a dragon for the dungeon is enough,we don't need another one.The treant could be become the champion,he could be magical or have the ability to attack enemies from a distance with his roots.
Other creatures that would match the theme could be the pegasus or a hyppogryph,maybe with a rider.
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mike80d
Famous Hero
Map Maker
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posted July 18, 2011 05:20 PM |
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A good unit to consider would be the Mantis from Homm4. Its abilities are pretty cool too, and I could see the large Mantis as an elite creature in this faction.
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Minnakht
Known Hero
Green eyed monster
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posted July 18, 2011 06:09 PM |
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Because mantises look impressive enough as they are, they don't need funny parts! Other animals, maybe, but not them!
That's why we have unicorns - normal hoarse horses weren't interesting enough, so a horn was slapped onto them. Those eastern fox things got either a forehead gem or multiple tails to be mystical, because they were boring - I took both ideas. But mantises do not need any of that! They have scythe-shaped arm things, wings, legs and so on - any more bling would be just unneeded.
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HappySkeleton
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 18, 2011 06:18 PM |
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That's why we have unicorns - normal hoarse horses weren't interesting enough, so a horn was slapped onto them.
Really? What about nightmares in chaos town in heroes IV?
Just taking the side of the lady 
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Minnakht
Known Hero
Green eyed monster
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posted July 19, 2011 12:03 AM |
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That's precisely why they don't need a revamp. Those hundred variations of spiders all are attempts to make spiders dangerous. Mantises are dangerous as they are, they don't need a hundred tries to be improved.
On the other side, I wouldn't mind some basic recolor + glowing power combo. Additional parts aren't needed, though - the scythe front legs would make a nice selling point alone.
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Jiriki9
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Altar Dweller
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posted July 19, 2011 12:12 AM |
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the reasons are indeed completely crap and I think the opposite is the case: spiders are much more COMMON than mantis^^ and even in fantasy many people imagine things as they know it...and giant, and variant spiders are easier to imagine than various mantisses...however this may a bit offtopic...also...allthough it can be a cool creature, I'M not sure in the forest faction...neutral suits it better imo...
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted July 19, 2011 12:20 AM |
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I agree with Nightterror and Mike80D, Mantises are awesome.
Mantis vs Snake
I'd like to see a spider do that.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted July 19, 2011 06:42 AM |
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Edited by MattII at 07:46, 19 Jul 2011.
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Yeah, mantises are cool, I just, personally, wouldn't consider putting them in a "good" forest faction, IMO it goes better with things like Kelpies and Irish Elves and Werewolves. Unfortunately, few seem willing to deviate far from the, to my mind, overly-Tolkienesqe themes of tall, lean beautiful elves, short, stout, greedy dwarves (although this one goes back further), ugly, crude, vicious orcs, etc. Where are the vicious elves, the cthulhic-creation dwarves and the peaceful but enslaved orcs?
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HappySkeleton
Adventuring Hero
Dead happy
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posted July 19, 2011 11:30 PM |
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I agree with Nightterror and Mike80D, Mantises are awesome.
Mantis vs Snake
I'd like to see a spider do that.
Lucky snake
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted July 20, 2011 12:22 AM |
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Of course, Mantises aren't the only overlooked nasties in the bug world, ants can be pretty bad too, and wasps, and don't forget centipedes.
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Minnakht
Known Hero
Green eyed monster
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posted July 20, 2011 11:13 AM |
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All those insects are overlooked because they live in the grass, while the Dungeons & Dragons folk prefers the indoor variety, like those guys that leave ominous cobwebs in pretty much every single corridor...
However, here, we have outdoors factions as well, so those overlooked, grass-dwelling bugs can find a place for themselves.
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Razorphilia
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 20, 2011 02:02 PM |
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...your town is too much humanoid...
...and don't forget centipedes.
Not sure if I like where this is going.
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