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Elodin
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posted August 29, 2011 12:14 PM |
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Ubisoft has added so many solo-based features that it already makes the multiplayer fans angry : reputation, RPG aspect and all these streamlined features (retreat button, lower resources amounts, copy-pasted building trees, copy-pasted skilltrees, control zones, etc...).
I only started playing the beta yesterday but I have a few comments.
I haven't seen additional RPG aspects added. How are things like retreat button, fewer resources, simplistic building trees, same skill trees, control zones, ect, "solo-based" features? Those were all changed to make multi-player faster and "fairer" because some multiplayes complained about random aspects of the game.
As someone who plays more single player than multiplayer I'd much prefer random elements in the game, different building plans, different skills, and no control zone.
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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
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posted August 29, 2011 12:45 PM |
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4) if the game had no multiplayer it would die in a few months. Which serious gamer plays only single player mode?
Lots of people. People older and have been gaming since the 80's when there was no online vibe. Most of these people hate multiplayer or on-line gaming and being forced to register online, etc.
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Vangelis21
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Manchild
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posted August 29, 2011 12:57 PM |
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4) if the game had no multiplayer it would die in a few months. Which serious gamer plays only single player mode?
Lots of people. People older and have been gaming since the 80's when there was no online vibe. Most of these people hate multiplayer or on-line gaming and being forced to register online, etc.
I am talking about "serious" gamers. How can someone that is bored and hates to register somewhere online be classified as "serious gamer" ? Anyway, I will drop it here because it might turn into an argument and i don't want that
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted August 29, 2011 01:22 PM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 13:22, 29 Aug 2011.
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Serious gamers did not exist before gaming went mainstream 
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Vangelis21
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Manchild
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posted August 29, 2011 01:28 PM |
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Just to say something in case the phrase "serious gamer" is misunderstood by some. For me a serious gamer is someone that dedicates several hours per day in gaming, knows why he is playing and having fun is not the only reason, spends much money on gaming equipment and much time in learning and reading about games. Lastly but equally important, a serious gamer is someone that excels in some games but is decent in almost every game.
Under no circumstances do I mean that a non-serious gamer is a non-serious person. These are totally irrelevant.
That is why , in my opinion, someone who plays only in single player cannot be considered as a serious gamer but just as a casual gamer that plays the game just to have fun and nothing more
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The_Polyglot
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channeling capybara energy
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posted August 29, 2011 01:29 PM |
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"Serious gamer" is an oxymoron. 
EDIT: Sorry, Vangelis, didn't mean to offend You
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Vangelis21
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posted August 29, 2011 01:40 PM |
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"Serious gamer" is an oxymoron.
EDIT: Sorry, Vangelis, didn't mean to offend You
Why to be offended? In any case I do not consider gaming and playing in general childish and not serious!
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 30, 2011 12:27 PM |
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guess it must be the same on every online game. many people abuse glitches and imbalances to win and always disconnect when they are gonna lose.
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That is why , in my opinion, someone who plays only in single player cannot be considered as a serious gamer but just as a casual gamer that plays the game just to have fun and nothing more
so speedrunning is casual play?
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B0rsuk
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Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted August 30, 2011 04:37 PM |
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Edited by B0rsuk at 16:41, 30 Aug 2011.
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Elvin
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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 30, 2011 04:41 PM |
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Let's return to the topic at hand if you please. Further offtopic will be deleted without notice.
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Karanshade
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 01, 2011 01:23 AM |
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Code of conduct and Online multiplayer games ...talk about ice and fire 
*Elvin just got renamed as Don Quichotte de la mancha *
I applaud the effort tough (I have always have a tender spot for lost causes )
That being said , the guy going afk because he is losing is reeeeaaallly cheap and would put me in a deep rage
About strat 'abuse' whatever , I never got to play Necro -not my favorite town or too much of other's favorite- in multi yet , I guess one of the first thing I ll do in my first game with them is try out this 'imba' strat , not everyone had time to play zillions of multi just yet . My point being , u are bound to encounter ppl trying those 'forum strats' at least for the sake of understanding the discussion about them
The lack of chat sucks for a multi tough , It s much more fun in beta phase to discuss what u are trying to achieve with your opponent .
I wouldn t mind announcing , hey I m gonna use that cheap strat if u want to find out a counter and then debrief the fights with ur opponent (again the windmill of respect in multi ^^ ) but neither me nor my friends had much time to play a lot so ...I m far behind
++ hc
PS: btw I m looking for a nice player who 'd be willing to play a couple of 1v1 or more maybe with some Irc or ts/skype whatever to exchange impressions and tactics but that s off topic
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 01, 2011 09:51 AM |
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one of the problems is that I don't know how many people play online for fun. there are cool people of course, but there are many who show intense frustration and violence as soon as they begin losing, and they are certainly not playing for fun. I can understand that losing is frustrating, but it takes some dedication to reach the critical point when you can't stand it any more. if you just played for fun, you wouldn't mind a few loses and would just stop if it begins to get too frustrating instead of losing your temper.
I suppose most online games includes statistics, and often, many players seem really concerned about them, so much that they will quit game they are going to lose to not affect their statistics in a negative ways. in the end that leads to people playing for points instead of fun, and rankings being very innacurate, which makes those stats pointless. (in the game I played the most seriously online, the actual best players were ranked no better than 70th in the world at best. all best ranked players had cheated or abused statistics in a way or another)
we can probably be sure that if online multiplayer is one of the big things of H6, there will be stats. so maybe they should add the possibility for non ranked games as well. there will be leavers and abuses anyway, but far less in non ranked matches. (it worked that way on far cry 2. I rarely played ranked games, it was far less enjoyable, as people were clearly not playing for fun, unlike non-ranked games)
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted September 01, 2011 10:56 AM |
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@karanshade
It's not a lost cause, back when I played in toh it was reality Not all had the same multiplayer beliefs but you knew beforehand if there will be any rules or not. Like random faction, no mirror match, no Wyngaal, no reloading if you lose a fight etc etc. Sadly towards the end a handful of players started causing dramas and arguments spread in the forums like wildfire. People too high and mighty to politely discuss their issues and reach a concensus, no they had to involve the community. But now I know the medicine for that, a pre-emptive lock and throw away the key
@Fauch
In toh you can't just quit, if you do ves can take care of the situation and give you the victory points I don't know about this time but back in H5 if I did not know someone I would check his ranking page to see fi his honour stat is decent or ask players who had been around more than me. Word does get around and if some people are jerks everyone will know before long. That's the whole point of the community, keeping in contact with the cool guys, enjoy your games and make sure that the troublemakers learn from their mistakes or leave. But a friendly community spirit is not hampered by rankings, the majority of my opponents played for points and were fun guys. Those who are all about the points are easy to spot anyway
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e3772014
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 01, 2011 04:36 PM |
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PS: btw I m looking for a nice player who 'd be willing to play a couple of 1v1 or more maybe with some Irc or ts/skype whatever to exchange impressions and tactics but that s off topic
You can add me: e3772014
I'll be happy to show you some imba strats =P Duels are boring nowadays...people are mostly either first timers who don't know any strategies and do random things or people who abuse broken strats.
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B0rsuk
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DooM prophet
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posted September 02, 2011 08:08 PM |
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Wasn't Heroes VI supposed to be balanced and fair ? I mean - they throw away so much stuff (randomness mostly) to improve balance. Broken strats, again ?
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 02, 2011 10:10 PM |
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Dude the game is not even out Wait till it gets released first.
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Zenithale
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Zen Mind
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posted September 03, 2011 02:12 AM |
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Then there are those silly abusers who use an broken spell/ability such as resurrection
I come from one of this game (well it was not my first...). Turn 3 I kill a stack of Glories, my opponent resurrect them and the battle continue. I thought he will give up when all his stacks will be dead, but no. Turn 18, remaining army = 30 invulnerables Glories. 
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sag
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WCL owner
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posted September 05, 2011 07:31 PM |
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is it Warcraft on screenshot in first post?
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fiur
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Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted September 09, 2011 01:39 PM |
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Edited by fiur at 13:39, 09 Sep 2011.
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@karanshade
It's not a lost cause, back when I played in toh it was reality Not all had the same multiplayer beliefs but you knew beforehand if there will be any rules or not. Like random faction, no mirror match, no Wyngaal, no reloading if you lose a fight etc etc. Sadly towards the end a handful of players started causing dramas and arguments spread in the forums like wildfire. People too high and mighty to politely discuss their issues and reach a concensus, no they had to involve the community. But now I know the medicine for that, a pre-emptive lock and throw away the key
@Fauch
In toh you can't just quit, if you do ves can take care of the situation and give you the victory points I don't know about this time but back in H5 if I did not know someone I would check his ranking page to see fi his honour stat is decent or ask players who had been around more than me. Word does get around and if some people are jerks everyone will know before long. That's the whole point of the community, keeping in contact with the cool guys, enjoy your games and make sure that the troublemakers learn from their mistakes or leave. But a friendly community spirit is not hampered by rankings, the majority of my opponents played for points and were fun guys. Those who are all about the points are easy to spot anyway
PrtScn and then put it in a frame
very good post Elvin !!! 
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