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JoonasTo
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posted July 07, 2012 12:23 AM |
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Seraphim
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posted July 07, 2012 11:31 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 03:30, 08 Jul 2012.
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The point is that if everyone could just give one ****, not even two **** about the future of the planet we could all benefit. Whether it be your offspring or mine. I am not some radical that believes we should all just put ourselves in more debt trying to do this, or I have got a flash mob together to save the birds.
Thats the point "IF". The problem is that people are no going to care about this because,obviously, there are more important issues to worry about that affect you now, such as the high prices for everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog
The problem is very similar to the anecdote in the link, the only difference is that people in the future will have to face that.
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I just feel like when you have an ideology of, "Why should I care when I am dead!" Well then you are just swimming in your own selfishness and stupidity.
Why that? Being excessively selfish or egoistic is promoted nowadays.
Not to mention that there is a rational reason not to care about the world past my life spam, even with children.
Once I am dead, so is this reality to me.
Why care now if its not affecting me? Its the same as somebody with benign cancer. If it is not going to affect your life, why care?
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If that's the case then do you feel that way about everything. Which if that's what you want to do by all means keep swimming, be careful though you may drowned.
I have got a swim vest  .
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violent_flower
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posted July 07, 2012 09:13 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 03:28, 08 Jul 2012.
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We have a winner folks..typical response of the dumb assery we have for this generation..this lack of giving a **** is one of the reasons we are in certain positions in this country..well take a bow country,bend over and this generation **** you in the fecal gash..excuse the lack of lube..
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fauch
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posted July 07, 2012 09:47 PM |
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Thats the point "IF". The problem is that people are no going to care about this because,obviously, there are more important issues to worry about that affect you now, such as the high prices for everything.
yeah, but it might be linked to the fact that you don't care.
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Seraphim
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posted July 08, 2012 02:43 AM |
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yeah, but it might be linked to the fact that you don't care.
So, high prices for a mediocre living standard happen because people dont care about that? No,no,no,no... People care about money more than anything else.
As for the global warming and such, I really dont care about that,I thought I cleared that up?
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We have a winner folks..
Touche! 
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typical response of the dumb assery we have for this generation..this lack of giving a **** is one of the reasons we are in certain positions in this country.
Hey, I am not from the US-Canada,I presume you are, so I dont really care about the US anyway.
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MOD EDIT: Your post violated the code of conduct, Seraphim. Please don't link to pictures which contain forbidden language.
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posted July 08, 2012 02:57 AM |
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I can't comprehend how you can be so shellfish.
I hate the Green Party in my country, but I still try to do small stuff for the enviroment. And all that small stuff adds up.
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Corribus
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posted July 08, 2012 03:31 AM |
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Guys, please watch your language. Please read the Code of Conduct if you are unsure of what the posting rules are related to cursing.
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fauch
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posted July 08, 2012 03:35 AM |
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yeah, of course people care about money, but in a way, that's their choice to live mediocrily. when at the elections, they vote so that the richs keep all their privileges and powers over them.
they could just say, we want the power, we want the money, but no, they vote against that idea. they prefer the richs robbing them with those national debts (not that they have any idea of what it really is)
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posted July 08, 2012 02:17 PM |
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I can't comprehend how you can be so shellfish.
I hate the Green Party in my country, but I still try to do small stuff for the enviroment. And all that small stuff adds up.
No, it does not. The main problem with the "Green wave" is not the goal, its the achivement of the goal. Either its a minority party, or a movement. The movements main method of achiving their goal is by indoctrinating the younger generation into beliving small things will help. The problem is that for the rest of the problem solving its usualyl grasping for straws.
For instance, a common thing is that the minority group affliciates with the political educated top on some manner, which then promptly will state that things will get done. The problem IS that nothing gets done. Perhaps a little will be done to get the industry to calm down a little, but nobody will do things like starting major funding of nuclear techology or halting gas export or actually pressure the non commited nations such as USA or China into actually doing something.
First up: Stop doing the small things for the enviroment, they don't matter at all. Doing so will also give the Greens more fuel to say they succed, and it will then be used in further scapegoating top politicans to agree in some sort of rainbow display.
Secondly: Do major things if you. Use electrical heating, get a less polluting car if such a thing actually exists for your driving habits. Mantain your lawl, plant a tree. Stop donating to rainforest funds unless they have a proven history of actually achiving more than posterboy items.
And finally lets write a little about what is "major items" for the enviroment:
-Factory pollution
-Coal
-Export and use of natural gas, also mining
-Power plants not using green energy or nuclear
-Chopping of rainforest in large scale for financial gain(mostly a ecological issue and not a enviromental one)
-Claiming to be green
-Natural solar cycle
-Pillaging capitalism(then again, its not the 1600s anymore)
All of these issues require heavyhanded political action, which likely won't exist under any western political system for quite some time.
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posted July 08, 2012 06:48 PM |
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Hey, I am not from the US-Canada,I presume you are, so I dont really care about the US anyway.Quote:
Again another ignorant statement, as all the countries are now intertwined with each other, the only difference is that the US is not paying attention to other countries that are being derailed, we are preparing for our own demise.
I do agree with the fact that we need to do something big or the little things keep them right.
Seraphine: Your lack luster approach is interesting however reading your comments is like looking at a women's unkempt vagina, slightly disturbing.
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Seraphim
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posted July 09, 2012 12:01 PM |
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Again another ignorant statement, as all the countries are now intertwined with each other,
Intertwined? Perhaps the US, the rest of the planet is quite different. Some countries are affected by american culture, but thats really it, nothing more.
You should know that the word "Ignorant" is a double edged sword in this case and shows your own ignorance.
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the only difference is that the US is not paying attention to other countries that are being derailed, we are preparing for our own demise.
I dont see how this has anything to do with climate. Countries that are in the EU,generally support the US even if they dont like to. Other countries, in the east especially, hate the US. I dont see how countries got "Derailed" when they never conformed to anything dictated by the UN or the west. The same goes with a global climate agenda.
Let's face it, green energy is too cumbersome for the countries that seek economic growth-supremacy like the US,China,Russia etc.
And we all know how useless the UN is when it comes to coming to agreements...
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I do agree with the fact that we need to do something big or the little things keep them right.
Like what? The least you could do is vote for parties with "Green" energy plans, even in the face of economic crisis.
You wont be able to force green energy solutions to countries like China or Russia,they have their fair share of problems regarding human rights and disregarding environmental problems,human life for the sake of profit.
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Seraphine: Your lack luster approach is interesting however reading your comments is like looking at a women's unkempt vagina, slightly disturbing.
I really dont see how that adds or counters my idea but that is firmly your opinion.
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xerox
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posted July 09, 2012 02:45 PM |
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Intertwined? Perhaps the US, the rest of the planet is quite different. Some countries are affected by american culture, but thats really it, nothing more.
Eh, ever heard of globalization? You know the huge process that has pretty much changed the entire world and coupled with capitalism and free market, made it much richer and more peaceful?
Also, I believe that China spends the most money in the world on the enviroment.
Anyway, Serpahim. Personally I don't really get what your solution is. Ignore all the problems and do nothing just because the world's superpowers are hard to convince?
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JoonasTo
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posted July 09, 2012 08:23 PM |
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Also, I believe that China spends the most money in the world on the enviroment.
You know why China decided not to use Green GDP to measure growth?
Because it was negative in a lot of areas.
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fauch
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posted July 09, 2012 09:00 PM |
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Use electrical heating, get a less polluting car if such a thing actually exists for your driving habits.
do you think that if everyone gets a less polluting car, it will solve the problem?
of course no. as long as people have to drive for several kms to get to work and are convinced that they all need one, if not two cars, you won't solve everything.
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posted July 09, 2012 10:26 PM |
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Intertwined? Perhaps the US, the rest of the planet is quite different. Some countries are affected by american culture, but thats really it, nothing more.
You should know that the word "Ignorant" is a double edged sword in this case and shows your own ignorance.Quote:
There is no double edge sword here, are you being serious that you don't feel that other countries are intertwined with the US. Mexico and China being the two largest economies that we swim with. Not just referring to our climate and how we depend on fossil fuels, but our currencies our all intertwined. Please school yourself before spewing out stupidity.
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Corribus
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posted July 10, 2012 12:49 AM |
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Guys, chill out or I'll put you on ice.
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posted July 10, 2012 02:35 AM |
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LOL Coribus, we are chilled....Kiss
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posted July 10, 2012 05:28 AM |
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As sheriff in these here parts, I've got to keep the peace - you understand. 
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posted July 10, 2012 11:38 PM |
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You edited my post, so is it only ** then, I guess I forgot.
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posted July 11, 2012 05:19 PM |
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Use electrical heating, get a less polluting car if such a thing actually exists for your driving habits.
do you think that if everyone gets a less polluting car, it will solve the problem?
of course no. as long as people have to drive for several kms to get to work and are convinced that they all need one, if not two cars, you won't solve everything.
Most people are already at their minimum regarding cars. And manifactuers keep on making them more fuel effective. So for most people, this bulletin point is not even relevant. And because fuel costs money, its roughly selv regulated.
And even if? There exists boats that pollute the amount of 4-5 million 90s cars, and we all love the globalization of the boat traffick. Boats are a major threat, as is non green powerplants with the exception of nuclear. There is nothing we can do as citizens besides unlawful and immoral actions to rig the system, the same way corporations and lobbies usually attempt to.
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