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Elodin
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posted September 26, 2012 01:18 AM |
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France poised to ban the words "mother" and "father"
Evidently the words "mother" and "father" are offensive to the gay community in France. God/nature intended children to have a mother and a father. No amount of pretending will change the facts of life.
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France is set to ban the words "mother" and "father" from all official documents under new plans to legalize gay marriage and give equal adoption rights to homosexual and heterosexual couples.
Under the proposed law, only the word "parents" would be used in marriage ceremonies for all heterosexual and same-sex couples, a move that has sparked widespread outrage, The Telegraph reports.
Changes to the civil code would mean swapping all references to "mothers and fathers," in legal documents, with the word "parents."
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posted September 26, 2012 02:27 AM |
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On one hand, you have equal rights and equality... but then on the other hand there is this thing called "Pushing the envelope over the cliff and into the fiery gates of hell." Banning two non-insulting words used in every day is not an equal rights push, it's a push for moving discrimination against the majority of the population. Sal, what's going on over there man?
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posted September 26, 2012 02:41 AM |
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Edited by Corribus at 04:28, 26 Sep 2012.
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All references to "mothers and fathers" in the nation's civil code will be swapped for the non-gender-specific "parents.".
Doesn't sound apocalyptic to me.
MOD EDIT: No edit, was a mistake. Didn't change anything.
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posted September 26, 2012 03:50 AM |
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Edited by Fauch at 03:51, 26 Sep 2012.
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I'm not sure I see the point.
and once again, maybe the church should care about its own problems instead of the private life of people.
I'm not sure what gnomes is talking about?
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posted September 26, 2012 04:27 AM |
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Quote: All references to "mothers and fathers" in the nation's civil code will be swapped for the non-gender-specific "parents.".
Don't have a moral problem with it, but it seems like a whole lot of expense and effort for nothing.
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gnomes2169
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posted September 26, 2012 04:41 AM |
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Quote: All references to "mothers and fathers" in the nation's civil code will be swapped for the non-gender-specific "parents.".
Don't have a moral problem with it, but it seems like a whole lot of expense and effort for nothing.
Dis, really. It's much ado about nothing and removes gender from the equation entirely when, in fact, gender does exist in every society... denying it is just being sort of silly. I wasn't being as "Gloom and Doomy" as I sounded, I swear.
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posted September 26, 2012 06:56 AM |
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What is wrong with these people?
You ban the first two words that babies learn just because of the gay marriage.
There were and will be gay marriages, but do you really have to push it that far?
What will be the first words that a baby will say? Female parent!, male parent!
I saw something about 3 people living as a family - two men and one woman. The men were bisexual, but the woman was completely Ok with it. There was the fourth member in the family - a teenage boy. Did he call them parents? No, he called them mum and dads.
I really don't see a reason for banning these words, but who knows - maybe we'll have no right to say food one day?
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Salamandre
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posted September 26, 2012 07:34 AM |
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I don't know where you dig those infos, but no track of them in french medias, never heard about.
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posted September 26, 2012 07:39 AM |
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Well I guess ya cant call 2 men a mother & a father & vice versa for 2 women.
Unless ya want to call mother to the wimpy guy & father to the toughest of the women
I stopped tying to make sense of the cultures of different countries, just the same as the US & how dif we can be.
I respect all countries with an understanding that every country has different beliefs.
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posted September 26, 2012 08:04 AM |
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Could you post a reliable source? Not fox slander news.
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posted September 26, 2012 08:52 AM |
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Couldn't find any link in french about, but would not surprise me if it happens. The actual socialist government has a pathological obsession for the political correct and will spoil a majority for removing minority discrimination. The whole gay marriage should be handled under new laws, without butchering traditional family values.
Probably the two next words to ban will be penis and vagina.
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posted September 26, 2012 11:50 AM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 11:56, 26 Sep 2012.
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They dont "BAN" the words mother and father from being used in public, they just remove them from official documents.
I do however find this dumb because every human being has a mother and a father. Removing these because Gays feel offended is just arrogant and pointless.
Being in denial is a thing that is promoted nowadays, no wonder people are arrogant nowadays.
Its just another concession to the whine-prostitutes of europe.
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Elodin
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posted September 26, 2012 12:25 PM |
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Quote: Could you post a reliable source? Not fox slander news.
If you don't like rational, accurate news sources you can of course ignore FOX.
If you use Google (know what search engines are?) and type in "France gay marriage" you'll find even the Huffy Puffy Marxist Post has a news story on it.
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posted September 26, 2012 01:27 PM |
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I agree that this would be very dangerous not only for the French society,but for the other societies that might follow blindly,without arguments or reason this proposed policy.
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posted September 26, 2012 03:50 PM |
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There is no way it succeeds (this or anything else). You all just have no idea how socialists and Hollande work:
a) What could we propose to show our generosity, humanity and fairness
b) This
c) ok, now let's discuss the project, first session in 10 months
[...few years later...]
d) hmm, we can't agree on, what about a referendum?
e) French people not agree because they are angry with other issues and don't care about gays right NOW.
f) Project is abandoned but they feel proud because they had the idea, so both sides feel protected.
France already had socialists governments, and not a single reform was completed, but thousand proposed. I would be surprised it changes now.
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posted September 26, 2012 05:48 PM |
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I guess it's an improvement over Sarkozy. at least, if he does nothing, he will do no mistake
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Salamandre
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posted September 26, 2012 06:01 PM |
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No, have you seen the latest news? Monthly income will drop for everyone, taxes are raised as well as all prices around, and all it matters is who we call mum and dad.
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Fauch
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posted September 26, 2012 06:52 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 18:53, 26 Sep 2012.
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didn't sarkozy plan that already?
how do they drop income for everyone? it's not just the public sector?
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posted September 26, 2012 07:20 PM |
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Middle East has its own fanatics, Europe has its own as well. So much care about such minor thing, which will not solve any problem of anyone, but just try to change perception of people. It's just illusionary step to nowhere.
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posted September 27, 2012 01:32 PM |
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Quote: Middle East has its own fanatics, Europe has its own as well.
Yes, and they share one thing only. They are extremists.
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It's just illusionary step to nowhere.
Where do you think society has been going the last 112 years?
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