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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 12:30 AM |
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Extreme Limits/Optimized Situations
How many Succubi can be killed in one shot? Vinrael's epic journey...
(The following is the detailing of me testing the game's destructive limits. Text that is not part of the story, but rather explaining it, will be in blue.)
One day, Vinrael was walking happily along in his forests, when he stumbled upon a crazy artifact called Elvin's Luck. He wasn't entirely sure what Elvin's Luck would do, but on the way home, a group of 1000 High Druids suddenly joined him. Vinrael also noticed that he felt quite a bit stronger.
(I gave Vinrael 1000 High Druids, 50 spellpower and 80 knowledge so he could pull this off.)
Later that day, out of nowhere, this guy Nymus shows up and summons 7,501 Succubi from the infernal plane. Vinrael knew that it would be up to him to stop this menace, but how? Vinrael considered his options:
Light magic: Except for Divine Vengeance, light magic can't instantly kill anything. And the Succubi hadn't killed anything yet, but Vinrael knew that once they did it would be too late.
Summoning magic: What was he gonna summon? Bees? Air? Neither would be strong enough to stop them.
Dark magic: Pssh, no. Duh.
So it fell to Destructive magic to stop the threat.
It was a daunting task. Vinrael knew that even a lucky Empowered Implosion from a Warlock with 29 spellpower would only kill 180.
However, Vinrael had Elvin's Luck. And 1000 High Druids to boost his power TO THE MAX!
(As it turns out, this setup is entirely possible. Controlling both heroes, I had Nymus start with 1 massive stack of succubi and 6 little stacks. All of them gated, with the big one in the middle. Then, while Nymus Phantom Forced almost every stack, both real and gated, the Pixies covered the original big stack while the Druids shot them to death. Then, they were all arranged in the formation above.)
Vinrael saw that the 7,501 Succubi were completely guarded by smaller groups of Succubi, so any attempts to block their shots would be useless. However, Vinrael realized that all the surrounding stacks could be used to his advantage. An idea started to form in his head...
Meteor Shower. That would be the spell. With all the boosts from the druids and Elvin's Luck, it would do 2000 damage. However, Vinrael had received this fantastic pair of boots for his birthday. (Emerald Slippers) The damage was now 3000. Also, Vinrael remembered that the 7501 had been gated, and he had been studying up on his Exorcism lately, bringing the damage up to 6,000. Divide by 20 (each succubus's health) and he was still only at 300. He only had one shot.
Shot? That's it! With Rain of Imbued Arrows, he could summon 25 Meteor Showers simultaneously! Since the massive stack was in the exact center, they would be hit by every single one!
2000 dmg x 1.5 x 2 x 25 x 1/20 = 7500 succubi killed in one shot! But would it work? Vinrael steadied his bow, and...
LOOK AT ALL THOSE ARROWS!
It begins...
and UNHINDERED DESTRUCTION!!!
It just kept going...
...until they were gone.
And the extra 1 was killed by the shot itself.
Vinrael laughed. It was a good day.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is the absolute limit of destruction in a single hero's turn (aside from a rigged DV.) Hope you enjoyed!
And here's the map:
http://www.mediafire.com/?vtn9yliy4czmsdl
Here's a replay of a lesser setup, but it's pretty much the same thing - I didn't take a replay of the battle in the screenshots because it would take like a half hour.
http://www.mediafire.com/?4wto47u4zhi0opf
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"An Elf can take out a Ranger
any day of the week, but they
prefer to do it on weekends so
they can stay up late and catch
a show afterwards." -H2 tavern
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted February 09, 2013 12:46 AM |
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Let's see if Elvin has something to say here
Looks beatiful
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 09, 2013 01:18 AM |
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So much win I have a thing for imbued spells, my best shot being against stronghold with my druids channelling first, hero imbuing and launching a volley of arrows and a quadruple imbued ballista raining moar meteor destruction upon the hapless orcs. Simply perfect timing, nothing could have saved those hapless orcs ^^
Fun presentation, made me laugh. Here's a shiny for your efforts 
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted February 09, 2013 01:21 AM |
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By chance you wouldn't save the replay, did you? Or the map to test that?
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 03:53 AM |
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A SHINY!
The replay took such a ridiculously long time to make I'm not even sure it would be worth posting. (Defend Defend Defend Defend Defend Defend Oops! Accidentally skipped Nymus Defend Defend Defend Defend...)
I have a lesser version that's faster, maybe I'll upload that if I figure out how.
As for the map, It's nothing except these two heroes, some succubi and a town for setting them as the favored enemy. But I'll get it up in a bit.
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"An Elf can take out a Ranger
any day of the week, but they
prefer to do it on weekends so
they can stay up late and catch
a show afterwards." -H2 tavern
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 04:53 AM |
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I put the links for the map and replay at the end of the first post. You might have to copy and paste them into the search bar, but they work!
On a side note, who knew that the Sandstone terrain under Conquest would have such cool battlegrounds?
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Maciek
Known Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 03:02 PM |
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Very good presentation indeed. I've made a replay using your map and tried to top that damage with ~50 spellpower Sinitar. My map(though lacking decorations), along with both raplays is here.
So, how do you guys think: who is the best Destructive caster around?
Sinitar has some ususual spectators. If you want to edit them, open the map in map editor, then go to view->map properties->player properties, click the hero you want and click 'edit'. Or you could maybe edit them via scripts(this map has only 4 lines of scripts).
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted February 09, 2013 04:23 PM |
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funny I wonder how exorcism affects real stacks during area of effect spells & whether warlock's luck affects imbued spells
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too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 06:38 PM |
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Warlock's Luck doesn't affect imbued spells (first thing I tried.)
Wait, stats can go above 99? Well this brings a whole new level to things! I'll leave testing the limits of that to someone else; I think I've had enough.
Good idea stacking:
Rage of the elements
mark of fire
elemental gargoyles
and anything else I missed.
I can probably be topped.
25 Meteor Showers at once looks cooler, though.
Hey Elvin, you don't perchance have that replay, do you?
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"An Elf can take out a Ranger
any day of the week, but they
prefer to do it on weekends so
they can stay up late and catch
a show afterwards." -H2 tavern
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zaio-baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 08:05 PM |
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Hi, can you guys make a test map with 2 castles next to each other, sphinx that boosts hero lvl up to lvl 30-40 and mb another sphinx that gives all artifacts ?
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 09, 2013 09:16 PM |
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http://www.mediafire.com/?8oquw9h9xyxurkv
Here you go. Good luck doin' whatever you're doin'!
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"An Elf can take out a Ranger
any day of the week, but they
prefer to do it on weekends so
they can stay up late and catch
a show afterwards." -H2 tavern
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zaio-baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 10, 2013 12:59 PM |
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Great job dude, thanks a lot.
Can you put some other things there ?
- One of each battle locations ( Crypt, Dragon Utopia, Blood Temple, Sunken Temple etc)
- Some stacks for avenger ( 8 creep camps with all troops from the different castles)
- 5 lvl up Trees to get to lvl 40
- 1 more big pile of artifacts
- 1 fully build random castle for each side
- Some piles of resources ( or huge amount of resources at start to test miniarties)
And change the island terrain to grass and the lava sea to water
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 10, 2013 10:03 PM |
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AGH! I just realized I could have done this whole thing during week of earth. Anyone know how to control moon weeks?
http://www.mediafire.com/?8oquw9h9xyxurkv
Here's your map.
The lava stays.
The island is now flower grass, and the sphinxes now give level 40. The towns won't have every building, since they're random and can only have universal buildings. But it should be more than easy to build whatever you lack, thanks to the hundreds of every resource you'll have.
I divided the island into to mirror sides, separated by a river of lava and a phoenix.
Do something crazy awesome on this map. Make it worthwhile.
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"An Elf can take out a Ranger
any day of the week, but they
prefer to do it on weekends so
they can stay up late and catch
a show afterwards." -H2 tavern
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zaio-baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2013 04:56 PM |
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Lol great that you made it so fast, but the link provides the old map.
Upload the newer map, cant wait to get my hands on it !
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 11, 2013 05:06 PM |
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Does it really? Que verguenza.
http://www.mediafire.com/?gprm2rab346lnfn
Try that one.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 11, 2013 05:54 PM |
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I do not have my replays anymore but if you are interested Swamplord has uploaded some of my favourites here
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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zaio-baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 11, 2013 05:57 PM |
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Now its perfect, A+++
Starting to play it
Edit:
Ive some cool replays on hrta/rmg/ubi/toh maps too, may upload em if you guys want to see some 1hit total destruction Kicked so much @ss back in the day on game ranger 
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zaio-baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted February 12, 2013 06:00 PM |
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@Toe
Hmm is it possible to make the towns start with week 5-6 army ? The way that map is made makes it perfect for some epic duels
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Hayven
Famous Hero
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posted February 12, 2013 08:34 PM |
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Prrft, I have modded it (SP 9999) and Meteor Shower could deal ~30000 damage once so 750000 damage 25 times.
But with... err... 9999999999 (more or less zeroes) Spellpower hero isn't able to cast any spells because of minus spell value (~-2400000 either more or less zeroes).
So there is spell power limit but it's unreachable.
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Tiptoe_McGuffy
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 13, 2013 12:18 AM |
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Quote:
@Toe
Hmm is it possible to make the towns start with week 5-6 army ? The way that map is made makes it perfect for some epic duels
I know it's possible, but since the towns are random, there would need to be scripting involved. You could try downloading a duel map and checking out the script. Or just use a duel map; they have pretty epic duels too.
@Hayven - When I made the map, I thought 99 was the limit. I wonder what the actual highest possible functioning spellpower is?
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"An Elf can take out a Ranger
any day of the week, but they
prefer to do it on weekends so
they can stay up late and catch
a show afterwards." -H2 tavern
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