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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted August 29, 2013 03:45 PM |
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Maybe, but this forum purpose is not to facilitate hypothetical transition between era and vcmi. In absolute you are right, one could release same mod compatible with vcmi too. But what guarantees that VCMI, once supporting map editor, keeps same format as now?
Nothing, so there is a high chance people lose their time coding things into a form that could change within VCMI final versions.
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Era II mods and utilities
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted August 29, 2013 04:08 PM |
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I don't really see your point, Macron. Once graphics are ready, we can rename them, replace them or add them to any mod in the future. No need to do much at the moment.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2013 04:10 PM |
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Edited by Macron1 at 16:11, 29 Aug 2013.
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Warmonger said: I don't really see your point, Macron. Once graphics are ready, we can rename them, replace them or add them to any mod in the future. No need to do much at the moment.
Screenshots prove, that Fred79 already renamed objects for purpose of creating photos.
So I asked.
And if he creates LOD, it's will be compatible with both VCMI and ERA.
And WOG also can be made at same time.
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IvanSav
Adventuring Hero
vcmi developer
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posted August 29, 2013 04:40 PM |
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Quote: But what guarantees that VCMI, once supporting map editor, keeps same format as now?
Fun thing is - right now we don't have any "format" related to map objects...
Quote: I'm asking, because in VCMI there is no map objects mod support yet, so replacement is only choice.
Not necessary. There is a way to add alternative appearances to existing objects (available even in RoE - h3m feature). And I think patched map editor also provides such functionality.
Also in vcmi there is way to "rename" files without actually renaming files on hard drive. This is how VCMI plays "MainMenuWoG.mp3" when WoG is enabled and "MainMenu.mp3" othervice.
How? I think this is something you can figure out yourself. Quite simple if you know how H3/VCMI works
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 31, 2013 03:53 AM |
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Macron1 said: Screenshots prove, that Fred79 already renamed objects for purpose of creating photos.
no i didn't. i renamed the objects, so that they could be added anywhere, to any mod, without replacing anything.
and, can we kindly keep vcmi discussion in another thread? this thread is only for my object patches, and my work. it is only graphics, and not anything else. thanks.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 02, 2013 04:32 AM |
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i'm gone, hc. my short goodbye:
the hc got what they wanted out of me, that's all that really matters to them. all of my worthy contributions outside of graphics have been absolutely ignored, and now my last graphic contribution, that i worked months to make, has been ****ted on. i am removing myself from this place. you guys can find another graphic artist to bribe, and then **** on. i'm through being treated as less than i am worth. i had 2 different long goodbyes to post, but it's not worth it. i leave you all with this short and blunt post. bye, hc, and thanks for the lessons re-learned from my previous attempts at being a friendly individual to the general masses. i'm moving onward and upward.
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Felipe
Known Hero
Editing Heroes Without Limits
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posted September 03, 2013 02:50 PM |
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fred79 said: i'm gone, hc. my short goodbye:
the hc got what they wanted out of me, that's all that really matters to them. all of my worthy contributions outside of graphics have been absolutely ignored, and now my last graphic contribution, that i worked months to make, has been ****ted on. i am removing myself from this place. you guys can find another graphic artist to bribe, and then **** on. i'm through being treated as less than i am worth. i had 2 different long goodbyes to post, but it's not worth it. i leave you all with this short and blunt post. bye, hc, and thanks for the lessons re-learned from my previous attempts at being a friendly individual to the general masses. i'm moving onward and upward.
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Are you not overreacting? What have offended you so much?
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted September 03, 2013 04:04 PM |
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted September 03, 2013 09:01 PM |
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted September 10, 2013 09:35 AM |
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Nice to see you back,fred!
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 10, 2013 10:08 AM |
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i'm not "back", ml. finding my work on a different site without me credited as the "author" for the work i put into it, compelled me to post here again, hoping to get that issue fixed. the only reason i didn't create a user account there(to ask to fix the issue), is because i don't want my email address available to any more sites than it needs to be.
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Humanoid
Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Rest in Peace Juvia (48-499)
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posted September 24, 2013 02:51 PM |
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I downloaded WOG and ERA but it still not work!
FRED HELP ME!!!
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 06, 2013 11:21 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 09:09, 08 Oct 2013.
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For those who don't know, anyone can find my ongoing work here.
And no, I'm still not "back". The only reason I post this is for insurance, so if people try to steal my work and claim it as their own, there will be a known source to debunk any false claims they might make.
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted October 07, 2013 12:20 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 12:35, 07 Oct 2013.
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I don't understand the drama, but it sounds like you reacted too sentimentally to whatever it was that stepped on your toes. I mean saying that the whole HC 'got what they wanted out of you' is not really fair, is it? I don't know what other contributions your talking about in particular, but the heroes community is not the biggest community on the Internet, so the feedback might be limited.
Anyhow, there's some really inspiring pictures on your DeviantART page.
Like the fireworks and planescape art in particular, to me.
Imagine defending against a siege and then beautiful FIREWORKS.
And planescape is just something I always wanted to see in Heroes. Step into a portal and you're in space or some mystical landscape. This is something I really hope to see in VCMI, personally.
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Felipe
Known Hero
Editing Heroes Without Limits
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posted October 10, 2013 06:52 PM |
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fred79 said: For those who don't know, anyone can find my ongoing work here.
And no, I'm still not "back". The only reason I post this is for insurance, so if people try to steal my work and claim it as their own, there will be a known source to debunk any false claims they might make.
and where can I download your recent work?
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 10, 2013 09:31 PM |
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Felipe said: and where can I download your recent work?
In an alternate universe, where people take me seriously when they should, and treat me with the RESPECT and benevolence that i've treated them.
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted October 11, 2013 08:03 AM |
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fred79 said:
Felipe said: and where can I download your recent work?
In an alternate universe, where people take me seriously when they should, and treat me with the RESPECT and benevolence that i've treated them.
Yeah, HC ain't like that. If you want to be treated with respect, you should probably find a different forum (based on my personal experience).
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 11, 2013 09:31 AM |
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NoobX said:
fred79 said:
Felipe said: and where can I download your recent work?
In an alternate universe, where people take me seriously when they should, and treat me with the RESPECT and benevolence that i've treated them.
Yeah, HC ain't like that. If you want to be treated with respect, you should probably find a different forum (based on my personal experience).
I found another place to display my work, and I enjoy it there. I'm much happier now. Forum's are just another place to be exposed to all of the terrific personalities that humanity has to offer. Not to say that there aren't good personalities here, I have just seen too much of my old friends and associates' personalities to feel like I should be here anymore. I left them all behind because they didn't treat me as well as I treated them. This forum turned out to be no different than any other get-together I have ever exposed myself to. It is difficult for me to not continue hating people here. They definitely deserve it. It is a pity that everyone has to deal with the effects of some bad apples. But I'm sure there are other graphic artists out there who can do just as good, if not better, than me. I wonder if some of the people in HC will treat the next graphic artist like a valued asset, instead of a disposable object, meant to serve them however they see fit. Judging from all of my past experiences, it isn't likely they will think before they use their rudeness and unprofessionalism to push someone who could have been of continuing value to them, away.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 12, 2013 12:38 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:42, 12 Oct 2013.
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Fred,
I think you are loosing yourself. You create something, you share it, end of story.
Of course you get recognition, from all the players who gathers in a dedicated place like HC to find gold mines of mods, with the common purpose to enjoy your creation. Just as you when you first installed WoG, ERA, HoTA, VCMI..
Regards & wish you the best for you upcoming work.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 12, 2013 03:08 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 03:09, 12 Oct 2013.
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Galaad said: Fred,
I think you are loosing yourself. You create something, you share it, end of story.
Of course you get recognition, from all the players who gathers in a dedicated place like HC to find gold mines of mods, with the common purpose to enjoy your creation. Just as you when you first installed WoG, ERA, HoTA, VCMI..
Regards & wish you the best for you upcoming work.
Galaad, there isn't any more "upcoming work". It is merely work that I do, and post progress of on DeviantArt. Nothing more than that.
And, losing myself? No.
Yes, I got recognition, but only for what people wanted. I never got any recognition for any of my other contributions to this forum. The last time I shared my work that they wanted, I didn't get recognition. Months of work, all given for free, and not one person recommended me for a "red star"(what HC deems as respect), nor did any mod give me one regardless of no one recommending me for anything. Understand, I couldn't care less about a ****ing badge. It is how this community views such things, that shows me how they value people here. "Thanks" is one thing. No badge = no respect. Then some of those very people who got my work for free, tell me that I have to work harder to gain the community's respect.
The first time I contributed my work to this forum, no one recommended me for anything. When I updated my first upload with additions, no one recommended me for anything. The third time, on February 20, 2013, it was 4 days before anyone recommended me for anything. And when I was finally recommended, it took 3 people to nominate me for anything, and then 3 more days, before I was given any recognition by any mod.
Would you call that respect?
Anyway, I let that go. I ignored that glaring warning sign. I stayed, and contributed more, in different ways, which were either rudely ignored, or turned me into a disliked target. I left, then came back, feeling better, and when I posted what I was going to post before everyone wanted to single me out, Corribus gave me a "star" as a bribe, so that I would give the community more of what they wanted. I knew it was a bribe, I forgave it anyway, and played along, hoping I wouldn't regret it. I posted my last object patch upload. No one recommended me for anything.
No.
Respect.
Given.
The mods and the rest of the community let their personal feelings for me get in the way of professional courtesy, and especially acceptance. Since I have been here, I was willing to forgive. I recommended certain people for "stars", (even when I disliked them) because they earned them, regardless of my feelings toward them personally. None of the mods here could do that, and they are IN CHARGE OF THE PLACE.
Disrespect and unprofessionalism are not things that I need to expose myself to. I refuse to be a part of it.
There, HC. That is what I had to say. That was the goodbye speech you didn't earn, but I gave it to you regardless of that fact. What exactly did YOU earn from your treatment of me?
I'll tell you what you earned. A handful of graphics(and more and more, my baby-step work, to be laughed at now). Only a handful of objects that I am improving and replacing daily. I get better at what I do every single day, HC. Whatever I am focused on, I get good at. Keep that in mind.
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