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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Science, Art, and Money
Thread: Science, Art, and Money
artu
artu


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posted October 18, 2013 06:06 PM
Edited by Corribus at 03:08, 23 Nov 2014.

Science, Art, and Money

Scientist sends fake article with bogus credentials to open access science journals. In open access system, the writers pay for their article to be published, so as you can guess, most of these so-called peer-reviewed journals publish the article. Scientist who's behind the sting says anybody with decent high-school chemistry knowledge would have realized the article was fake if they really payed attention.
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Scientific research and technology always needed capital to flourish but is it a love & hate relationship? Can scientists stick to their main principles if research is handled like "business as usual" and how about the universities, how deep should their involvement be with capitalism?

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markkur
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posted October 18, 2013 06:19 PM

artu said:
...Can scientists stick to their main principles if research is handled like "business as usual" and how about the universities, how deep should their involvement be with capitalism?


I think it like anything else, some good and some bad out there. The university connection to the Government has bugged for a while; somehow I think all of them should be stand-alone and not having money flowing out to them for everything under the sun (in the name of science) Too many times, generous funding has been given for ridiculous studies; that's made worse by our on-going fiscal-crisis.

The other aspect, on "business" is the concept of "research". Labs can get a nice check for supplying some favorable findings for tested products etc.

With that said, no one can work for free, so I'm not sure what the answer is.
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artu
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posted November 23, 2014 03:50 AM

Thanks for editing the name, Corribus.

This thread was only about the relationship between science and money but after I've read award acceptance speech by Ursula K. Le Guin, I decided to add the liberal arts.

Yet I see sales departments given control over editorial; I see my own publishers in a silly panic of ignorance and greed, charging public libraries for an ebook six or seven times more than they charge customers. We just saw a profiteer try to punish a publisher for disobedience and writers threatened by corporate fatwa, and I see a lot of us, the producers who write the books, and make the books, accepting this. Letting commodity profiteers sell us like deodorant, and tell us what to publish and what to write. (Well, I love you too, darling.)

Books, you know, they’re not just commodities. The profit motive often is in conflict with the aims of art. We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art—the art of words.

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