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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 09:03 AM |
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I'm having a field day with a 6/6/4 deck. I can't believe it.
It's better than the deck you made me Elvin. That one's late game potential as far as creatures go is squat. 90% creatures with 2/2/~ and they lose hard versus academy.
But now I just made one cry in his pants after only 6 turns.
Oh and I forgot to mention smth. I got 2 banshee now And had one game where I ressed them both 3 times, lulz!
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted May 20, 2014 12:20 PM |
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pretty sure Elvin's deck is better, but u just do not know how to use it yet, while yours may work fine at this level, once u go higher u'll realise how slow and inefective a 6/6/ build is.
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 12:26 PM |
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ahhh youth, i agree with watcher on this one stevie currently your deck will work will in your pool of players, but as you progress the deck will need to evolve to accommodate stronger players and deck builds.
i have a funny analogy for this....
2 bulls stand on top of a mountain and look down at their herd full of female bulls. the young bull is super excited and turns to the older bull saying, "quick quick lets run down and try catch as many females as we can and have some fun". The older bull smiles and replies, "why don't we walk down and find ourselves one female"
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 12:35 PM |
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Dude, how should I explain this...
Ok, with 6/6/3 (it's actually 3 not 4) I managed to get at 80% win rate in the early stage and after about 50 games it stabilized at 70%. With Elvin's deck I got at 56% in less than 10 games. And I followed it perfectly. Even he lost a game when he showed me how to play, one in 2. That's a 50% chance. Now that I resumed to my 6/6 deck I managed to climb back at 60% win rate. Now do you still think it's better?!
And the only reason I say it's a 6/6 deck is because I have a vampire lord. Most of the time I'm 4, but if I get him, my lamasu or dragons I sacrifice one turn of draw to skill the resource. It's an option that I have, rather than have none at all. And that has worked far better than having tons of draws but with 2/2/~ creatures.
Also, he told me I'm missing key cards for that deck to fully work. So until I get em, Imma stick with my own. Ok?
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 12:38 PM |
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we are saying the same thing, ofc stick with your build right now as it is working great for you.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted May 20, 2014 01:22 PM |
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@Stevie: Share with us your build. What hero? What cards?
6/6/3 is crazy...but as you say it's more 4/6/3 which really only works well for academy cos they can boost their magic stat with creatures and certain fortune cards.
Remember, you don't want too many high stat cards above 5 (being might or magic) as if they all come up in your starting hand, it's difficult to play. A good cost curve building up a certain stat is good. Examples:
Acamas: 4/1/5
Deleb: 5/1/2
Ariana: 4/6/1
Masfar OTK: 1/6/3
You can see that certain stats aren't even raised (1). This is efficient.
The only good ones that increase all 3 stats are:
Hakeem: 4/6/3 (but magic stat can increase multiple times in one turn)
Seria: 4/4/4 (all stats are high, but not to 6, so achievable in long run)
Just my two cents, use it don't use it.
As you say you are doing well, so stick with it, just remember you are climbing up and it gets more difficult as you meet with better players.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 02:01 PM |
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I got Seria.
Got 1 vamp lord, 2 putrid dragons and 3 lamasu as highest resource costs. If I don't get them, or don't need them, I don't skill. 3x Enthrall force me to get to 6 spell asap. Got one heroic destiny which if I get it helps tremendously.
Now, as the game starts with me having 1/1/2 I skill might first. If I can work with my creatures with just that, then I get 2/2/2. If not, 3/1/2. After 3 in might I switch to magic til at least 3/3/3. If I can survive with my creatures I continue on magic til 5, if not I skill til 4 and then magic. Then I wait and see how the battle develops, if I need enthrall then I skill it to 6 and use it in the same round. If I need a creature, then might. I don't need whatever the purple thing is called that much, only got 5 fortunes in total.
Usually I end up at 4/5/2. So, what u think?
And accept muh frend req plis!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 20, 2014 03:12 PM |
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I am biased towards shorter games where you stabilize as soon as possible My deck was nothing special so one cannot say that Stevie doesn't know how to use it well. I think it was 4/6/2 and a simple one at that. But it's like I said, newcomers lack the right cards and/or skill to deal with big threats And I would rather draw a card instead of increasing my might for those few powerful cards. I prefer to control the tempo with constant pressure instead.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 03:14 PM |
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I've added you, we will play these days if you are online at the same time as I am.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 20, 2014 10:12 PM |
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I ****ing love Ignatius Aggressive and fun.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 10:14 PM |
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Oh Elvin, sorry I saw your messages too late.
Was listening to something and muted the game
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 11:11 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 23:12, 20 May 2014.
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Ok, just played Stevie. After the game of 15 minutes and then chatting with him for 15 minutes, he was about to ask me "how are my kids", because he thought all the time that I was RedEmperor.
Then he said "You are from America?", I said "no, Serbia"...
"Oh, so we are neighbors... wait, I talked to you today?"
-"Nope"
"Oh, I now remember! I talked to DaveJames!"
-"Yeah, RMZ89 and DaveJames names are almost identical ... and he is from CZ, not Serbia"
"Yeah, I forgot that too..."
I laughed so freaking hard, Stevie my new favorite person.
Then I said "I am Elvin in disguise, I am from Greek, but don't tell anyone".
"ARE YOU FOR REAL!?"
I think his mind was blown.
Man, my jaws were hurting after so much laughing.
That was just part of the conversation that we had, the whole conversation was freaking hilarious.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 20, 2014 11:48 PM |
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Duuuuuude xD
Had fun too, see ya tomorrow!
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted May 21, 2014 07:50 AM |
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Elvin said: I ****ing love Ignatius Aggressive and fun.
And you don't need any creatures either!
@Stevie: what is your uPlay name?
If you're using Seria, try incorporate 4 x banshees, 4 x Seria's last order and the unique Seria's legion, which will be a 4/4/4 build. You only go up to Soul Reaver in spells. It is highly efficient and one of the top decks (in standard)...once you recurse those lovely banshees, you won't be needing enthrall
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 21, 2014 08:52 AM |
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BeYo_OnD is muh uplay name. You still haven't accepted my friend req.
And I got Seria, 2 banshee, atropos, only 1 reaver, and both legion and last order. I could try working with that but... I don't really like my creatures with only 4 might, they're all 2/2/~. Plus I've invested 5 wildcards in that Vampire Lord (I know, stupid move) and I'm quite sad if I can't use it now, well not that sad but...
So complicated.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted May 21, 2014 09:31 AM |
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Well RMZ, I can say that we are neighbours for sure, never knew you are from Serbia, thought Baklava was the only one here.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 21, 2014 09:54 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 09:54, 21 May 2014.
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You're assuming he knows who baklava is. People on this thread have no clue that there are other forums here
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2014 10:02 AM |
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Stevie said: You're assuming he knows who baklava is. People on this thread have no clue that there are other forums here
...nope i think im the only one here who doesnt know there are any other threads in hcomm
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2014 10:07 AM |
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RMZ1989 said: Ok, just played Stevie. After the game of 15 minutes and then chatting with him for 15 minutes, he was about to ask me "how are my kids", because he thought all the time that I was RedEmperor.
Then he said "You are from America?", I said "no, Serbia"...
"Oh, so we are neighbors... wait, I talked to you today?"
-"Nope"
"Oh, I now remember! I talked to DaveJames!"
-"Yeah, RMZ89 and DaveJames names are almost identical ... and he is from CZ, not Serbia"
"Yeah, I forgot that too..."
I laughed so freaking hard, Stevie my new favorite person.
Then I said "I am Elvin in disguise, I am from Greek, but don't tell anyone".
"ARE YOU FOR REAL!?"
I think his mind was blown.
Man, my jaws were hurting after so much laughing.
That was just part of the conversation that we had, the whole conversation was freaking hilarious.
I love you guys You made my day.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2014 12:11 PM |
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Stevie said: You're assuming he knows who baklava is. People on this thread have no clue that there are other forums here
I didn't read any posts from Baklava, but yeah, he is from Serbia obviously, Baklava is famous "pie" here.
And I read other forums, just not all of them as I said, I am reading Starcraft 2, Age of Wonders 3, Hearthstone, DoC and DotA 2 since you made it.
Before that, I was stalking Heroes 6 and Heroes 5 forums since I didn't have account yet.
No point in following other threads and forums when they don't interest me.
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