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jackson
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posted September 03, 2014 11:43 PM |
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Edited by jackson at 23:44, 03 Sep 2014.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 04, 2014 01:31 AM |
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Wait...You want us to establish the premise of this thread for you?! You cheeky ****-waffle!
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 04, 2014 01:34 AM |
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Now, there's two reasons why this thread was created. (in my mind anyhow)
First, you were either bored or wanted to make yourself known et cetera so you picked a topic that you thought might get attention, and since you're a lurker I assume that your attune enough to know what peeps have strong feelings about. (gender roles being the hot topic of August)
Oooor second, you have strong feelings about the topic yourself, but you don't like being challenged, thus you raise an issue close to your heart without being in the line of fire.
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Anyway, the point is that you have to give us something, some line of argument, but cause I'm kind, so I'll give you my 2 cents.
Now while it is undoubtable that in our long history there have been women participants in combat, whether it is due to an ideology such as in Soviet Russia and among the amazons, or out of need for extra "man"- power on raids, the question remains, whether females are a reliable and efficient source of soldiers. Personally, I believe that an average man can be trained into a combat ready soldier faster and more efficiently than you could a woman, but battles and wars aren't decided by how many more men one side trains than the other, considering human beings as nothing more than mean statistics is why WW1 was such a meaningless blood-bath.
So while I think that men on average could be trained to combat-ready status faster and cheaper, modern armies are becoming smaller and more professional, and women have a very important place in that. Not for retarded "equality", but I think that they have the means to make a difference on merit, and natural feminine qualities have a place on the battlefield, and the aftermath.
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OhforfSake
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posted September 04, 2014 02:15 AM |
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Gotta agree with Tsar on this one.
Vikings plunder, kill and rapes.
Women do not rape.
Ergo a woman cannot be a viking.
The power of women lies in the truth that is feminism.. sending your woman behind enemy lines, out compete their own women and steal all their men!
Should probably steal their woman too while at it, no one wants a sausage fest. Maybe except for Xerox.
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mvassilev
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posted September 04, 2014 03:41 AM |
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OhforfSake said: Women do not rape.
Women don't rape as often as men do. That certainly does not mean that women don't commit rape - they do.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 04, 2014 03:44 AM |
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Didn't amazons just kidnap men for breedin purposes then kill them?
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fred79
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posted September 04, 2014 03:53 AM |
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amazons aren't real. which is too bad. that'd be snowin' if they were real.
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blizzardboy
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posted September 04, 2014 04:06 AM |
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It's a matter of how strong you are relative to the victim. Men are at the top of the food chain in the general public. Mother's abuse children more often than men do (albeit there are more active mothers than there are active fathers) because in that situation, a woman is still physically superior to a girl or boy. The confidence of physical superiority makes a huge difference; suddenly she feels comfortable to exert herself, where with an adult man she would instead cowl away.
You could theoretically subdue people with a little bit of planning even if you're weak, but most acts of abuse are ones that are committed spontaneously. That's why physicality means so much. It makes the difference in those instances of rage between striking the person or quietly stewing and doing it (and much worse) in your imagination instead. Even with rapists, although you have that small circle of guys that just do it on a serial basis with long-term planning involved, most of the times it happens when something bad has happened in his life and all of the sudden he's looking for a fix. Less than 24 hours later, he's raping a woman, as much (if not more) for the elating rush of sadistic pleasure from having such terrible power over another human being, as for the sexual gratification itself. The sex drive becomes a vessel for another desire that is even more potent.
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OhforfSake
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posted September 04, 2014 04:15 AM |
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fred79 said: amazons aren't real.
Sure they are.
blizzardboy said: Mother's abuse children more often than men do
That's actually quite interesting. I guess while a mother will protect her own child, she'll actively hunt others children so her own child can get all the benefits from the men who only seldomly and quite randomly attacks children.
blizzardboy said: You could theoretically subdue people with a little bit of planning even if you're weak, but most acts of abuse are ones that are committed spontaneously. That's why physicality means so much.
When it comes to rape, it doesn't matter if a bbw tied you butt-naked to a bench and inserted a cucumber up your bum, because the moment she exposes you to the ugly vajayjay, you pee-pee hides inside your ballsack.
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blizzardboy
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posted September 04, 2014 04:34 AM |
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I was referring to physical abuse in general, not necessarily sexual. Gratifying malice via sexual means is primarily a male issue.
The situation with mothers is complicated; mothers that abuse their children are the same ones that might just as readily die before being separated from them. It's a strange relationship where they're devoted to their children, and yet at the same time, their deeply-rooted horrible habits that they've cultivated makes them destructive parents. It's a twisted social dynamic that usually involves the court having to peel the kid away.
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fred79
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posted September 04, 2014 04:36 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 04:39, 04 Sep 2014.
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lol. this thread is full of potential.
edit: lol, and now this post looks totally ****ed up, because it took me a couple minutes to read it, and blizz was able to post before i did.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 04, 2014 06:34 AM |
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fred79 said: amazons aren't real
lies and deceit! Stone him! Stone HIM!
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fred79
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posted September 04, 2014 07:32 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 07:35, 04 Sep 2014.
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Tsar-Ivor said:
fred79 said: amazons aren't real
lies and deceit! Stone him! Stone HIM!
relax, man. i'm stoned, i'm stoned.
(lol, not really. funny, that even though i need a job, and in fact CAN'T partake of herbal remedies, i don't even want to. i've grown to find being muzzy-headed distasteful and unneeded. no, i prefer the clarity of acid and shrooms. )
edit: oh yeah, there's a topic up there.
i wouldn't go to war with women. unless they started it.
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posted September 05, 2014 01:27 AM |
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Oooh what do we have here? Is this a crafty JEmo alt
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posted September 05, 2014 07:30 AM |
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I see no problem with women in the military.
if a person wishes to defend his/her country, let them do it. The problem, at least in mine ragdoll mary guard is lack of commodities for women, such as separate showers and lass only barracks. and male "officers" who have a fetish for men in undies. Who are such sore losers in fact that some girls are actually better than them, and blame that women come to the military to peek at men in their undies, trying to pin their little fantasies on women who want to play their part in defending our country from nonexistant threat from the Ivans.
These days on my facebook feed, pops out several photos of I believe Iraqi lasses, who had taken up arms against ISIS, which is very nice.
It's also rather interesting, and makes those extremist lunatics crap their pants, 'cause if they get popped by a lass, they appearantly won't ascend to heaven ad get their 72 virgins. which is not very nice to them.
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Doomhammer
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posted October 13, 2014 03:21 PM |
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War is no place for women, they should be in the kitchen where they belong
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posted October 13, 2014 03:35 PM |
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I know that's meant as a joke, but please read the Code of Conduct regarding sexist posts.
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posted October 13, 2014 03:51 PM |
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Edited by fuChris at 15:51, 13 Oct 2014.
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I'll just leave one of my favorite quotes here.
Bill Hicks on joining the army:
"Anybody DUMB ENOUGH to want to join the military should be allowed in.
Any pre-WW1 civilization that actively encouraged their womenfolk to go to war deserved to be erased from the face of the earth.
Modern day armies on the other hand...does it really matter if a male or a female sits behind the desk deploying the unmanned killerdrone?
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markkur
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posted October 13, 2014 04:14 PM |
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fuChris said: ...does it really matter if a male or a female sits behind the desk deploying the unmanned killerdrone?
Perfect. I'll add I have zero interest in female Conans but since Drones and other "distant-killing" occurs now and has since planes and cannons...why leave the ladies out of the shame. Maybe if War was allowed only by those face to face (go Vikings) we might see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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fred79
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posted October 13, 2014 04:24 PM |
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fuChris said: Bill Hicks on joining the army:
"Anybody DUMB ENOUGH to want to join the military should be allowed in.
bill hicks ftw. one of my favorite comedians.
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