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Serafim
Serafim


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posted December 13, 2015 06:18 PM

Salamandre said:
Serafim said:

Proof that Putin did it:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/russia-makes-religious-education-mandatory-in-schools-87634/


I did a search on this matter and the result is very different from what you want it to prove.

[url=http://www.pri.org/stories/2012-12-26/russias-new-required-religion-class-4th-graders]Religions classes in Russia[/url]

This year Russia required fourth graders across the country to take a religion class. There are six choices: Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, secular ethics or world religions. Most Russians consider themselves Orthodox Christians, but most did not choose that class for their children.


This doesnt disprove my point.
Why are there religious classes in secular schools again? I wouldnt consider part of the education of my children knowing and learning about religion.

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Serafim
Serafim


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posted December 13, 2015 06:39 PM

Galaad said:
[url=https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/europe-is-harbouring-the-islamic-state-s-backers-d24db3a24a40#.xtpjqd46n]NATO is harbouring the Islamic State Why France’s brave new war on ISIS is a sick joke, and an insult to the victims of the Paris attacks[/url]

New article from Nafeez Ahmed.


A very true article. Its almost common knowledge that ISIS is just the guerila of various Sunni countries around syria.
Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait and Qater. Any country that sponsors islamic terrorism should be a pariah.

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Salamandre
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posted December 13, 2015 07:17 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:29, 13 Dec 2015.

Serafim said:
This doesnt disprove my point.
Why are there religious classes in secular schools again? I wouldnt consider part of the education of my children knowing and learning about religion.


You presented it first as a serious push from Putin, to force kids to learn Christianity. Or, after research, it looks much more open, as the student him self can choose between all major religions and learn about one in particular, is his choice. That's very different and shows a very open view on the matter. And from what I understand, he doesn't learn THE religion, but ABOUT that religion. Furthermore, the student can SKIP any religion class and instead learn about secular ethics, which is mainly a good mind exercise and based on philosophy.

And of course I am not shocked about religion in school, if presented THIS way. The world is wide open, borders are down, we are getting more and more people from religious nations, there is nothing wrong to be curious, understand and study religion, giving that this people will live next to us. Is not like you are forced to convert, see the nuance?

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artu
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posted December 13, 2015 07:43 PM
Edited by artu at 19:44, 13 Dec 2015.

Two of the journalists who made the news about those trucks loaded with weapons are in jail now, waiting for trial. One of them is among the most famous journalists in Turkey, used to do prime time TV shows on national TV and all... Erdogan is really pushing the limits here, we may not be the most liberal of all democracies but we are not Iran either. Yet, the country is so polarized, around 40 percent vote for him no matter what. And the opposition is always fractured, there is the secular and pro-western 25 -30 percent, there is the more far right nationalist MHP with its 15 percent and then there are the Kurds who always vote HDP moving around 10 percent. These are not compatible ideologies, so Erdogan with his conservative Muslims will keep winning. The damage he did and will keep doing is so hard to repair, it will take maybe decades to clean this snow, in every way.
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