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Liso1
Known Hero
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posted January 15, 2015 09:49 PM |
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Edited by Liso1 at 21:50, 15 Jan 2015.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 15, 2015 10:19 PM |
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Engwathang said: Trust me, if 3DO still existed, Heroes 4 and up would be SOOOOOOOOO much better
ROFL!
Are you serious?
3DO was the same case as Ubisoft -> money, nothing more was important.
That's why we had: 8 Heroes Chronicles (cleary DLCs by today standards), Might and Magic cheap spin-offs (CoMM, WoMM, LoMM), bugged and unfinished HoMM4 and pre-alpha MM9 sold as full game.
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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gatecrasher
Famous Hero
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posted January 15, 2015 10:25 PM |
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Liso1 said:
but still i want to buy it
Well, if only they did release it on DVD.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 15, 2015 10:28 PM |
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They do:
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Liso1
Known Hero
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posted January 15, 2015 10:36 PM |
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Engwathang
Adventuring Hero
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posted January 15, 2015 10:55 PM |
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kicferk said: Oh, do you happen to know the exact date of it happening? I would love to hear that. Unless you know that, I don't really see your point in disagreeing with Maurice's point.
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/windows-7-support-ends-today/
Avonu said:
Engwathang said: Trust me, if 3DO still existed, Heroes 4 and up would be SOOOOOOOOO much better
ROFL!
Are you serious?
3DO was the same case as Ubisoft -> money, nothing more was important.
That's why we had: 8 Heroes Chronicles (cleary DLCs by today standards), Might and Magic cheap spin-offs (CoMM, WoMM, LoMM), bugged and unfinished HoMM4 and pre-alpha MM9 sold as full game.
Maybe it's just my opinion, but Ubi destroyed the hole MM series. It was better when NWC/3DO existed
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kicferk
Known Hero
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posted January 15, 2015 11:11 PM |
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You'll still get security updates and patches until 2020 so no worries there.
Taken from comments on the same page, none of this are available for XP anymore, and frankly that is the reason why there are no publishers willing to make stuff for it. Because if you want to sell software, it has to work, and you can't guarantee that if the system is not patched...
That being said, after they stop supporting windows 7 altogether it will start fading away just like windows XP did.
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gatecrasher
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 01:04 AM |
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Avonu said: They do:
Well, that's a start. No mention that you'll be getting RoE only though.
But as long as there is no RMG and nothing like this HD mod sane interface I won't be getting it.
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Orzie
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 07:50 AM |
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Quote: That being said, after they stop supporting windows 7 altogether it will start fading away just like windows XP did.
And I'm pretty sure there will be thousands and thousands of people still using it.
Heck, XP and Win7 are convenient. I still feel comfortable on xp sp3.
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lordriton
Known Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 10:40 AM |
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hmm, i'm using Windows 8.1, and i like it ! (hated it first)
I preordered the game, and you know what ? I'm hapy about that !!
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 11:21 AM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 12:22, 16 Jan 2015.
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I don't understand the mentality of pre-ordering video games. It seems completely illogical to me when you cannot get your money back if the game turns out bad, and you must rely almost solely on marketing material when making such a decision, so it doesn't seem a very educated choice to me. You might save 10% or whatever, but you can do so too by having a little patience. And besides, if the money is lost then it didn't matter that you saved a small percentage. Also, if the publisher doesn't provide a demo then I think it can be justified to pirate the game first to make a solid purchase.
Edit: Of course you can also watch user generated content instead of pirating a game without a demo if you feel that's adequate enough. Also, I don't know how much work making a demo really is, but games from big publishers should have the resources for it, at least.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 16, 2015 11:45 AM |
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hippox89 said: I don't understand the mentality of pre-ordering video games.
I do this so I know I am guaranteed to have access to the pre-ordered game the moment it is released. Personally, I don't want to go through that hassle once it has been released; then I simply want to start the download right away .
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 12:02 PM |
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Maurice said: I do this so I know I am guaranteed to have access to the pre-ordered game the moment it is released. Personally, I don't want to go through that hassle once it has been released; then I simply want to start the download right away .
Can you start downloading before the game is released if you pre-order? If a was game over 10GB and you had a slow internet connection then I could understand that as being part of the equation, at least.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 16, 2015 12:29 PM |
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hippox89 said: Can you start downloading before the game is released if you pre-order? If a was game over 10GB and you had a slow internet connection then I could understand that as being part of the equation, at least.
It depends. Some games do pre-loading to avoid a long download time when the portals open. Some games don't. But it's mainly that games are released during weekdays, during which I usually only have time to spend on it in the evenings, after coming home from work. Then I'm tired and don't want to go through the hassle of figuring out how to purchase it, I just want to mash an "install" button and sit back.
And also, most pre-orders feature ingame benefits over post-orders; it depends a bit on the game and actual benefits just how powerful that appeal really is.
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looom
Adventuring Hero
Flying High
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posted January 16, 2015 01:48 PM |
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Edited by looom at 13:49, 16 Jan 2015.
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pre-ordered for 15euro, I will likely not like it, but buying it just because it is homm3
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 01:50 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 14:00, 16 Jan 2015.
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@ Maurice
Okay I see.
Well, the horrible thing about some, but not all, exclusive pre-order bonuses is that they punish the buyers that choose to wait for the actual release - or longer - before making up their minds about buying a game. But it obviously depends on what the bonuses/goodies are. Some bonuses are quite harmless while others might make you feel that you're missing out on the actual content of the game. I think in some cases this trend can even make people opt to pirate a game because they feel that they missed out on some exclusive pre-order bonus content.
Anyhow, I should be careful about not going more off-topic.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 16, 2015 02:33 PM |
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Maurice said: Then I'm tired and don't want to go through the hassle of figuring out how to purchase it, I just want to mash an "install" button and sit back.
+1
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 03:51 PM |
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hippox89 said: It seems completely illogical to me when you cannot get your money back if the game turns out bad, and you must rely almost solely on marketing material when making such a decision,
Are there any countries, where you can get money back for game you didn't like?
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 04:32 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 16:37, 16 Jan 2015.
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I cannot say that I actually know the rules very well, but if you're in the EU then you might technically be able to get a refund within 14 days from a digital brought license to a game, however, I read that if you have started downloading the game and/or played it then you'll forfeit this right. I don't know if this is actually accurate, though. However, digital stores can create their own special refund politics, too, but within what limits I'm not sure.
I heard that Steam has an unofficial 'one time' refund politic.
Origin has a '24 hour after activation' refund politic according to the link below, but only for EA games. It sounds rather good to me in theory, but I have no personal experiences with Origin, though.
http://help.ea.com/en/article/returns-and-cancellations/
I also found a resent Steam discussion on Reddit which might provide some relevant information (Steam related):
http://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/2quaeo/refunds_are_coming_to_steam_whether_valve_likes/
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revolut1oN
Famous Hero
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posted January 16, 2015 04:37 PM |
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well in Poland u can get a full refund for any stuff that u bought within 2 weeks (and didnt damage it in any way of course) so i assume that video games are also within that policy, probably in all eu
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