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okrane
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posted December 24, 2014 10:17 PM |
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Boy... they sure did MISTREAT this franchise
Old timer here, some of you might remember me from back in 2006 whining about H5 being bad...
The latest installments have been so un-memorable, it is pretty sad to say.
H5 hit a tiny peak with TotE but the game was too buggy, had too poor performance and map making was to difficult for it to grow.
Sad part is that H3 and 4 are still played even today by some of my friends and myself.
Hard to recreate that masterpiece when the studio is in for a quick cash grab and the developpers are unexperienced noobs from lala-land.
/end whine
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 24, 2014 10:35 PM |
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Are you complaining about a game that is not even out? 
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted December 24, 2014 10:55 PM |
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Nice post, 10/10, would read it again.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 24, 2014 11:55 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 23:56, 24 Dec 2014.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted December 25, 2014 12:20 AM |
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Edited by okrane at 00:20, 25 Dec 2014.
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Stevie said:
okrane said:
Boy... they sure did RAPE this franchise
Nah, they didn't rape it, they bought it.
they bought a virtous maiden at the slave market because her parents had gotten into money problems and sold her as a sex slave to hardcore gang bangers for 8 years straight. now that maiden is a worn out wrench.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted December 25, 2014 12:36 AM |
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Elvin said:
Are you complaining about a game that is not even out?
Actually I'm surprised there aren't (many?) more like this yet. There are always people who need to whine...
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted December 25, 2014 01:00 AM |
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The use of the word rape makes me very uncomfortable. Could we not do this, please?
Seriously, it's not cool.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted December 25, 2014 08:56 AM |
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Elvin said:
Are you complaining about a game that is not even out?
I have a Heroes VI deja-vu when I read replies like this one. 
Attacker: "This looks like crap."
Defender: "Oh God, wait until it's out, it's not done yet / it's a placeholder / it will surely look better when it's finished..."
Attacker: "OK, it's out and it still looks like crap."
Defender: "Oh God, wait until they patch it you whiner!"
Attacker: "They stopped patching, it's still crap, anything else?"
Defender: "Well, it had POTENTIAL!!! Next time..."
Sweet memories. Ubisoft's Heroes games have much more interesting development time than actual gameplay, that's for sure.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted December 25, 2014 10:00 AM |
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@kiryu133
I agree... This thread is pointless.
This time use of "too big" words is completely superfluous.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted December 25, 2014 11:16 AM |
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Oh ... it's BIG words now ...
How about if post would say this: Developers MURDERED this franchise ...would this satisfy you? Or maybe they KILLED it?
Because murder is clerly less of a crime. Even tho given it's context it isn't implying actual murder is it?
It's expresion that is prety well known and is part of "internet and gaming culture" since it's beginnings. And is not to be taken in offensive way, because it's not directed towards you or me or any of people here.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted December 25, 2014 11:57 AM |
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Edited by Darkem at 11:58, 25 Dec 2014.
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To be honest Ubi wasn't the one who killed the Might&Magic games in the first place.
They took the rotting corpse and are still trying to produce something that will give them decent money. I am sure that one day they will realize that the quality can provide them gains, so I am trying to be optimistic.
Still, I don't think that use of terms like "murder"/"rape"/"butchery" in conversation about inanimate object/franchises is justified. It's a little bit too much. I DO love the M&M games, but we shouldn't trivialize previously mentioned words.
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okrane
Famous Hero
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posted December 26, 2014 11:42 AM |
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Darkem said:
To be honest Ubi wasn't the one who killed the Might&Magic games in the first place.
They took the rotting corpse and are still trying to produce something that will give them decent money. I am sure that one day they will realize that the quality can provide them gains, so I am trying to be optimistic.
Still, I don't think that use of terms like "murder"/"rape"/"butchery" in conversation about inanimate object/franchises is justified. It's a little bit too much. I DO love the M&M games, but we shouldn't trivialize previously mentioned words.
Not sure I agree, the game was turned from a love child to a quick money grab on the backs of existing fans and the reason they did not release more is because they did not make that much money in the first place.
Sad part is that this is a franchise which was actually PLAYED by a hell lot of people. Ask any gamer in their 20s - 30s at the moment, they have played this game.
Giving it to an experienced RTS - TBS developper they would have made something special.
Let's look at Magic the Gathering for a second, a game which I believe resembles quite a lot to Heroes in terms of principles (Heroes 4 was actually heavily inspired from MtG). The game is a major success and yet it lives for now 20 years. It's ingenious revitalizing of the game each year that made it stick. Heroes had that with the map-making community (and testament shows H3 maps are still played today). If the strategy element would have also been revitalized like MtG does, this thing could have been immortal.
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JeremiahEmo
Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
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posted December 26, 2014 01:26 PM |
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well, H5 was good. H6 was a disaster. As for H7, I don't see it being as good as H5 but they're welcome to prove me wrong.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted December 26, 2014 03:17 PM |
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Zenofex said:
I have a Heroes VI deja-vu when I read replies like this one.
Attacker: "This looks like crap."
Defender: "Oh God, wait until it's out, it's not done yet / it's a placeholder / it will surely look better when it's finished..."
Attacker: "OK, it's out and it still looks like crap."
Defender: "Oh God, wait until they patch it you whiner!"
Attacker: "They stopped patching, it's still crap, anything else?"
Defender: "Well, it had POTENTIAL!!! Next time..."
Sweet memories. Ubisoft's Heroes games have much more interesting development time than actual gameplay, that's for sure.
quoted for so, so much sweet sweet truth lol
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted December 26, 2014 03:58 PM |
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I would dare to say the patches made the game even worse, at least for some time.
H6 is the black sheep of the series, and let's hope it stays that way.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 26, 2014 04:16 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
I would dare to say the patches made the game even worse, at least for some time.
H6 is the black sheep of the series, and let's hope it stays that way.
H-How dare you!! Heroes 6 is not the black sheep of the series at all!
It's a spin-off.
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mvassilev
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 27, 2014 01:10 AM |
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This "Ubi ruined HoMM" sentiment is a bit misplaced - H5 was a fine game by TotE, but more importantly, it was 3DO and NWC who were responsible for H4, which really was a disaster.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 27, 2014 02:22 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 02:22, 27 Dec 2014.
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mvassilev said:
This "Ubi ruined HoMM" sentiment is a bit misplaced - H5 was a fine game by TotE, but more importantly, it was 3DO and NWC who were responsible for H4, which really was a disaster.
Ubisoft did put in the trash NWC's early work on homm5. I don't think you need to learn about the death threats concerning Forge faction, arguably the main reason why homm4 was so different.
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mvassilev
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted December 27, 2014 04:00 AM |
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I don't see the connection between fans objecting to sci-fi in HoMM and HoMM IV having different gameplay.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted December 27, 2014 12:08 PM |
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mvassilev said:
I don't see the connection between fans objecting to sci-fi in HoMM and HoMM IV having different gameplay.
Exactly because there isn't one.
And as far as I remember, the creators of HoMM IV said that it is the closest thing to how they've imagined Heroes should look like in terms of gameplay I guess. I am not convinced at all that series would be much better if NWC was still making it instead of Ubi. After all we just could get different kind of evil.
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