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llVIU
Hired Hero
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posted March 19, 2015 10:55 PM |
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Edited by llVIU at 18:49, 20 Mar 2015.
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Heroes 3 - Romania map
****** I got a quick question:
I want to divide the map in 3 parts. A map can have max 144 mines.
that means 48 mines each part. Should I make 8 wood/ore/sulfur/mercury/crystal/gems = 48 mines or 10 wood/ore 7 sulfur/merc/crystal/gems or how?
And how many towns do you think that 48 mines can sustain?
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ROMANIANS, GET IN HERE.
http://s24.postimg.org/4azhvuqyd/dasdas.png
I need testers for a map that I am currently making.
This is the gimmick:
-map overall is supposed to resemble romania (transilvania for you americans)
-it has a LOT of towns, each has the respective name/location according to the real life town. The capital has 3 towns because it's so much bigger than any other town
-romania can be divided into 3 big sections that throughout history went back and forth: vallahia (south part) moldova (north east part) and transilvania (center, and north west part) so I try making nasty borders to seperate them. More important is that I don't want players to be able to fight each other very early.
-at the start, I am supposed to edit the map and give each player his preffered starting possition.
-pic here is with inferno towns, but it's supposed to have castle. I made inferno because I like playing single player, and I like playing inferno.
-map is at 25% ish done. Important part is to decide where to put towns, borders, and mines. I don't want players with too many mines and others with not enough mines. artifacts and other snow like that comes later
if interested, give me an e-mail/yahoo id or some snow. I'm expecting romanian players to be interested, obviously, because the map is of romania, and romanians are extremely nationalistic and obsessed about their own country
like I said - map is 25% ish done, first thing to do is to get the geography right and town locations/numbers plus mines, then comes the details. Maybe I should just merge some towns of pairs like arad/timisoara or satu mare/baia mare
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 19, 2015 11:00 PM |
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I am Romanian, but unfortunately I am also a mapmaker. So while I am very enthusiast about playing a Romania map (yupii!!), the fact that you consider that piece of crap design 25% done is quickly cooling my enthusiasm. Ok, sorry for rudeness, but we are in year 15 AH (after heroes III release), 1 millions map are out, so to really create interest, a geometric form is not enough. IMO.
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llVIU
Hired Hero
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posted March 19, 2015 11:33 PM |
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what's wrong with the map design?
is 25% cooling your enthusiasm because you think you'd have to wait a lot to play or why... I don't get it.
yea there's lots of towns but I want to think hard how I can cluster them because they're very important. Like having neutral towns filled with many strong monsters, or having strong monsters between roads to towns, etc
please elaborate. I'm here for feedback. With a big map, I don't want to waste hours going into something just to scrap everything because the base idea is bad
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 20, 2015 08:31 AM |
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The base idea of making a map is never bad, and when you have a subject is even better. I was just worried that you call 25% done when you only made the form of the map, placed only inferno towns (so everybody will fight against its race?) then added a few decorations. What I see there could be done under a half hour, so in sum your map will take 2 hours to complete design + balance setup.
Since you are so eager to use only inferno towns in Romania, I would open borders (remove entirely rocklands) and create invasions from Turkey, Russia or whatever, obviously other races. Special terrains as cursed ground, magic grounds, clover fields, fiery grounds will help a lot to change from the monotonic scenery we are confronted right now. I would place big rivers as Danube as sea terrain and take care of their borders, there is opportunity to use some swamp column with its gorgeous decorations. Good luck.
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llVIU
Hired Hero
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posted March 20, 2015 11:08 AM |
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-pic here is with inferno towns, but it's supposed to have castle. I made inferno because I like playing single player, and I like playing inferno.
I did say in the first post why it's inferno. Of course it can be changed to any race. Changing castle race is easy. Moving around the whole geography of the map is hard. Half an hour? please don't flatter yourself. My worry is romania here, not turkey or etc because this is a map for romanians, about romania, not turkey or etc countries. They can make their own maps. Sorry. Maybe when I'm done I might add this and that, but not my priority. I wanted to make this map more based on realism, not fantasy, besides I can add those minor things later. I just wanna think of what castles to remove/add etc mines, move terrain around etc, it's 25% not 75%
danubian river IS water terrain, what are you talking about? and I did make swamp terrain around the east end of the river
thx for suggestions so far. If I could make town maps names longer I'd definitely merge some towns like timisoara/arad which are so close to each other, but I can barely put even a single name.
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Humanoid
Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Rest in Peace Juvia (48-499)
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posted March 20, 2015 12:12 PM |
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Where are the other countryes araund? You dont want fuse in whit LizardWarrior's Romania mod?
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llVIU
Hired Hero
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posted March 20, 2015 01:06 PM |
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I don't understand your question, humanoid... and I prefer not to use mods... the thing is that I wanna play german homm3 and I only have erathia as german, so the map is erathia, plus it's easy to convert to shadow of death, wog or whatever, but impossible to do it the other way around.
I'm just doing a lot of work on the map first and then I'll try to post again, 25% is just too little
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husham123
Famous Hero
Yes
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posted March 20, 2015 01:27 PM |
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Really ?
Oh come on,guys,i am Romanian,but either the map has to be XL,and to contains lots of Peasants (to make it look realisticall).
Hope you didn't based on peasants?
Haideti oameni buni,ma plictisiti,de ce nu vorbiti in romana ?
Poate si putin in englleza dar,ma rog 
Asa,si as vedea-o,dar mapa asta e facuta dupa viata reala,asa ca mai bine nu fa una pentru romania
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted March 20, 2015 03:41 PM |
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My friend, you are a little too late, by a little I mean 3 years I'm working on a project that you may be interested in, so of course I thought about making campaigns, tough I postponed them until the town is finished. I have started working on the map(s), but there's no point in rushing as Romanian Town is far from finished. For example you can see below my take on Tomis/Constanta and Dobrogean higlands, as well as the mini-map I have been using. I can't even dare to say they are 1% ready . I'm gonna to side with Sal on this. What is your map missing is the eye candies, it makes the player more absorbed into the game. Don't get discouraged now, everything comes with practice.  Also, never ignore WoG/ERA, they add a new whole dimension to the game.
(@Sal:rate this please  )
husham123 said:
Haideti oameni buni,ma plictisiti,de ce nu vorbiti in romana ?
Poate si putin in englleza dar,ma rog
Asa,si as vedea-o,dar mapa asta e facuta dupa viata reala,asa ca mai bine nu fa una pentru romania
Pentru ca nu avem voie Nu inteleg de ce multi romani le zic "mape" doar pentru ca seamana map cu mapa Ele sunt harti
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llVIU
Hired Hero
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posted March 20, 2015 06:05 PM |
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Edited by llVIU at 18:42, 20 Mar 2015.
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is the minimap working wrong, is is the western point of that romania map cut off... anyway, I see 250 limit instead of my 150 ish. Grats to you for making that huge map, and putting so much work in it, but it is clearly very different from mine, and what I want.
I want erathia. Tops shadow of death. I'm not really into all that modding thing because most homm3 gamers just play shadow of death. Single player is another story. I'd have to try your map tho. I seen previously on youtube that mod, it looked pretty nice.
I guess I'll just continue making my map the way I like it, I guess, since that's the big advantage in making your own map. I know there's PLENTY of other maps out there, but the only way to get a map 100% how you want is to just make it yourself. You see the logic here?
I'll still have to do a lot of work before I post a pic and ask for testers, I guess. But even so, the replies I got made me re-think how I should do my map. There's fundamental flaws that definitely need to be fixed
p.s. husham123: I am not racist like you or lazy. Everyone deserves to know what we talk about in this topic, not just romanians, so I will definitely not speak romanian. If you don't like it, go back to school and learn english, like the rest of us. If you don't like it... how about I start speaking japanese and see how you like it
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted March 20, 2015 07:39 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
I have started working on the map(s), but there's no point in rushing as Romanian Town is far from finished. For example you can see below my take on Tomis/Constanta and Dobrogean higlands, as well as the mini-map I have been using.
Uau!!! It's a lot of eye candy but is it possible to visit all those objects? I think I see at least a sharpshooters dwelling that can't be reached. If they are all reachable I would go for 10 for map design alone and I hope that's the leaser part of your work, since you are working on the town for so much time. Congratulations.
@llVIU - I like your idea but I'm with Sal. I know nothing about Romania's history but from our own portuguese history, to have the disputes betwen Lisboa and Porto or the continent and Madeira raised to total war just not to mention the spanish and the french that really tried to invade out borders because I don't want them in my map is pay little respect to history and a downer to map interest.
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husham123
Famous Hero
Yes
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posted March 20, 2015 08:17 PM |
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Hey,hey,ease up man,i just tryed to ask you to speak both english,and romanian,and i don't mind if you speak ONLY english,and if you think that the schools make you learn something unless Iohannis came,you are pretty crazy,and sure,NONE OF YOU are lazy,but i just sayd that it would be harder
Then screwing up your self with creating Romania,you better watch and learn from that cool guy that made it a few years ago
And man,don't think that I am racist if i talk only in Romanian,and so Romanian is like Roman (Lattium),so for a few ppls it's gonna be easy,and sure,the Portugues,and Spanish speak almost the same,that's why i understand it.And does someone know how to get HoTA ?
I searched (NOT TRUE) a lot
And yeah,you might do this,ok ?
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