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verriker
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We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 13, 2015 01:56 PM |
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alcibiades said: Seriously?
never thought in a million years I would find a redeeming feature in H6, but at least that Dungeon is coherent on paper lol
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alcibiades
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posted August 13, 2015 03:11 PM |
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Stevie said: Compared to that, purple color coding is at least bearable, but H7 Dungeon is just a mess.
verriker said: never thought in a million years I would find a redeeming feature in H6, but at least that Dungeon is coherent on paper lol
Ok, I completely disagree. I think actually one of the only positive things I can say about the H7 dungeon creature artwork is that the faction looks coherent.
... although I would have prefered colours more like this:
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LightAvatarX
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Water,Earth,Fire,Air
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posted August 13, 2015 03:20 PM |
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I have died!
Dungeonis so epicall epic!
I just love it!
Untill now Academy was in the center of my heart!
But now Dungeon is my favorite!It is facking,facking,facking perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I looooooooooooooooooooooove it!
And in all thee previous games I did not like it!
I love DUngeon!
I would never believe that I would kick Academy out of my heart!
DUNGEON IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Stevie
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posted August 13, 2015 03:26 PM |
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verriker
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We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 13, 2015 03:29 PM |
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alcibiades said: Ok, I completely disagree. I think actually one of the only positive things I can say about the H7 dungeon creature artwork is that the faction looks coherent.
H6 and H7 Dungeons both look coherent (and both look lame), but I think only the H6 one is sort of coherent on paper, it's monsters of the abyss with only the dark elves screwing up the theme, H7 frustrates things further with its weird ass constructs and water nagas of the Sanctuary joining the fray, it's not a fit, it's like putting fire dwarves of "Fortress" in the Stronghold or Undead in the Sylvan lol
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PandaTar
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posted August 13, 2015 04:00 PM |
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dark-whisperer said: Now that I look back at the offered line-ups during dungeon voting I can clearly see that devs had every intention to heavily reuse HVI models.
Assassin, Minotaur, Medusa, Dragon, Lurker, Manticore, Faceless and probably Skirmisher are completely reused HVI models with only different color (something that they explained is very easy to do with editor).
Entire HVI line-up is here just spread in 3 offered choices with sprinkes of few new creatures. That hurts me so much. Damn!!!
Seeing those comparisons side by side made me even more startled than I was letting me be, even already decided not to buy this game for months now. Why, not even in the older installments such copy and paste was that evident. The bit of pride that they could have place upon medusas, AT LEAST, is not there. Instead, they hired a naga, threw a pot of spaghetti on her head and labelled her medusa.
Again, someone will enjoy all this, for the better or for the worst.
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alexine
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posted August 13, 2015 04:11 PM |
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LightAvatarX said: I have died!
Dungeonis so epicall epic!
I just love it!
Untill now Academy was in the center of my heart!
But now Dungeon is my favorite!It is facking,facking,facking perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I looooooooooooooooooooooove it!
And in all thee previous games I did not like it!
I love DUngeon!
I would never believe that I would kick Academy out of my heart!
DUNGEON IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I have never seen so much irony in one post ! for that
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alcibiades
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posted August 13, 2015 04:33 PM |
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verriker said: H6 and H7 Dungeons both look coherent (and both look lame) (...) H7 frustrates things further with its weird ass constructs and water nagas of the Sanctuary joining the fray ...
I completely agree. I simply choose to ignore the fact that Medusa is actually a Naga - this is a prime example of developers destroying an otherwise perfectly good part of game with a snowload of lore. And as for the Strider - yes I agree fully, it is in every way a bad design choice, not only was it unnecessary (Faceless was a perfectly good choice, as was Manticore), it's also a missfit, since we have a difference faction that has constructs as a major part of its theme. When I talked about coherence I was refering only to the visual elements.
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verriker
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We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 13, 2015 04:42 PM |
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alcibiades said: I completely agree. I simply choose to ignore the fact that Medusa is actually a Naga - this is a prime example of developers destroying an otherwise perfectly good part of game with a snowload of lore. And as for the Strider - yes I agree fully, it is in every way a bad design choice, not only was it unnecessary (Faceless was a perfectly good choice, as was Manticore), it's also a missfit, since we have a difference faction that has constructs as a major part of its theme. When I talked about coherence I was refering only to the visual elements.
OK I think we both fully agree, yeah I should have just more clearly distinguished "visually coherent" from "coherent on paper" lol
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Rakshasa92
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posted August 13, 2015 10:41 PM |
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LightAvatarX said: I have died!
Dungeonis so epicall epic!
I just love it!
Untill now Academy was in the center of my heart!
But now Dungeon is my favorite!It is facking,facking,facking perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I looooooooooooooooooooooove it!
And in all thee previous games I did not like it!
I love DUngeon!
I would never believe that I would kick Academy out of my heart!
DUNGEON IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Is this sarcasm or serious?
I hope for your sanity that this is twisted cynical and sarcastic!
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Sleeping_Sun
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Townscreen Architect
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posted August 13, 2015 10:44 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said: Is this sarcasm or serious?
I hope for your sanity that this is twisted cynical and sarcastic!
Nope, I do not think that he is sarcastic.
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sandro400
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Shadow of Death
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posted August 13, 2015 10:47 PM |
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That's Lighty for you.
No wonder he also writes as Chaos. ^^
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Manta
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posted August 14, 2015 12:02 AM |
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Honestly of all the factions so far dungeon is my favorite.
Assassins are good, shades could use a hair change...Stalkers and trackers should have only 1 crossbow.
Troglodytes are awesome, medusae are good despite the fact that most people dislike the reused model. Minotaurs are awesome.
Striders/soulless should be switched out for manticores.
Hydras are awesome and I actually like the dragons despite most people's apparent hatred for them.
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Rakshasa92
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posted August 14, 2015 12:04 AM |
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Sleeping_Sun said:
Rakshasa92 said: Is this sarcasm or serious?
I hope for your sanity that this is twisted cynical and sarcastic!
Nope, I do not think that he is sarcastic.
Quote: Honestly of all the factions so far dungeon is my favorite.
Assassins are good, shades could use a hair change...Stalkers and trackers should have only 1 crossbow.
Troglodytes are awesome, medusae are good despite the fact that most people dislike the reused model. Minotaurs are awesome.
Striders/soulless should be switched out for manticores.
Hydras are awesome and I actually like the dragons despite most people's apparent hatred for them.
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Manta
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 14, 2015 12:16 AM |
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My ideal dungeon lineup would've been
Core:
Assassin/Shade(minus the long hair...)
Troglodyte/Infernal Troglodyte
Beholder/Evil Eye
Elite:
Minotaur/Minotaur King
Medusa/Medusa Queen
Manticore/Scorpicore
Champion:
Hydra/Chaos Hydra
Shadow Dragon/Black Dragon
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 14, 2015 12:19 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:21, 14 Aug 2015.
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Manta said: My ideal dungeon lineup would've been
You're far from being the only one who would have wished for the exact same thing.
@Rakshasa92
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Kimarous
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posted August 14, 2015 12:20 AM |
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Rakshasa92 said: *gigantic blinking gifs*
OMG, people have differing opinions!
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Rakshasa92
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posted August 14, 2015 12:22 AM |
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Kimarous said:
Rakshasa92 said: *gigantic blinking gifs*
OMG, people have differing opinions!
Yes, and those are my reactions to those opinions, which is MY personal opinion.
Thank you, thank you! *Crowd in applause*
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Kimarous
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posted August 14, 2015 12:29 AM |
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On a side note, I rather like the Might Hero designs for Dungeon this time around. They were an incoherent mess in H6... weird chest-eye, quasi-Sauron helmet, feathers everywhere, ugly cape... comparatively speaking, these new ones don't look too bad. Maybe it's the colours, maybe it's the masks, maybe it's the racial androgyny - the only think I'd complain about are those weird multi-coloured swords, but that's small potatoes compared to my gripes with H6.
Here's hoping the Magic Heroes look just as good. I can't quite pinpoint my exact gripes with those ones, but they're just... off.
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GenyaArikado
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Supreme Hero
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posted August 14, 2015 01:18 AM |
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alcibiades said:
verriker said: H6 and H7 Dungeons both look coherent (and both look lame) (...) H7 frustrates things further with its weird ass constructs and water nagas of the Sanctuary joining the fray ...
I completely agree. I simply choose to ignore the fact that Medusa is actually a Naga - this is a prime example of developers destroying an otherwise perfectly good part of game with a snowload of lore. And as for the Strider - yes I agree fully, it is in every way a bad design choice, not only was it unnecessary (Faceless was a perfectly good choice, as was Manticore), it's also a missfit, since we have a difference faction that has constructs as a major part of its theme. When I talked about coherence I was refering only to the visual elements.
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