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LucPatenaude
Famous Hero
Owning all 7 Heroes games
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posted January 18, 2016 05:46 PM |
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Live Stream while I am, still, 6 hours in your past.
Never mind what the post will say about when I just posted this.
For me, right this moment, it is 11:45 AM on January 18th 2016.
Ouch!! N`est-ce pas?!
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted January 19, 2016 10:22 AM |
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Edited by natalka at 10:29, 19 Jan 2016.
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infinitus said:
I miss past translation. Plans to record translations to watch at any time ? Ty for event by the way.
I didn`t know you were watching. Yesterday I was feeling bad and twitch only showed 1 viewer so I had no incentive to comment.
Maybe we can record some arena games. I don`t want to play my map and show you the best way to creep it and commentate about it. I still want to win if there is TOH 
I encourage everyone still interested to watch at least the final battle. We saved just before it and there is no way it ain`t gonna happen because RedPanties is in front of my castle.
If someone missed yesterday events I will summarize what happened. I grabbed center utopia, +6 def stats from center and teleported to home area. RedPanties realized he can`t attack same week because he had only 2 days left so he also spent his time in the center visiting that same stat buildings and clearing shantiri ruins and visited artifact merchant twice. One interesting thing was how he chained back those green dragons and than next week forward full army + upgraded those dragons. Even though he made a mistake on the way back he managed to get away with by buying 9th hero after firing one of his other heroes.
So on day 3 he started from center zone a rush towards my area. ( But definitely day 2 can be achieved - he is sloppy).
- end of summary -
I think that orcs can sit in home area on 2 idols(of fertility) and don`t care about little elfs  . Week 4 I have used the idol 5 times already giving me 5 behemoths. Unfortunately I skipped one money area because I rushed the center which in turn eventually led me to a money shortage. Good that I had a whole week to slowly buy whole army, while selling as much resources as I could. While I accepted the end fight to be in my area I wanted to deny him as much attribute boosters as possible but was unable because day 5 I still had a lot of army not bought. Luckily he visited only one building for stats increase but also managed to reach 30lvl. Knowing he will come in my area of control(and yes my map supports areas of control new techniques) I have built blood magic crucible(-3 magic to enemy heroes) and another dwell(+2 bloodrage).
Only bad thing is I have 13 unupgraded behemoths.
So tonight at 20:00 CET I invite you to see the end of it.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted January 19, 2016 10:34 AM |
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I watched a bit but then had to leave. For work 
I would indeed be more interested in arena games. Shorter, minus the tedious creeping
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted January 19, 2016 10:46 AM |
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Edited by natalka at 10:48, 19 Jan 2016.
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Yesterday was even more boring because we just moved heroes arround without commentating. Kind of whole week all heroes had nothing to do waiting for him to come but I think it is from the specifics of the map. I remember H5 TOH games had same boring but fast last week. Elvin will u watch tonight?
Everyone interested in arena games please write down (a) matchup(s) so we can prepare the map for that matchup. The map had to be started from scratch so we will make it for a few matchups first and then for all factions.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 19, 2016 02:00 PM |
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natalka said:
... after firing one of his other heroes.
You can do this? I wasn't aware of an option to dismiss Heroes, even though I did look through the various interfaces. How do you dismiss a Hero?
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The last Reasonable Steward of Good Game Design and a Responsible Hero of HC. - Verriker
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted January 19, 2016 02:18 PM |
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I've been watching it on and off and thought I missed the final battle the first day, I'm glad I didn't.
I tried to see if you'd uploaded the previous streams, but didn't find any.
The one viewer who are sometimes there who doesn't say anything may have been me, since every time I try to commentate, twitch ask me for facebook details.
Anyway a lot of it was nice to watch. I must admit I don't see much difference between Heroes 7 and Heroes 5, but it's always nice to see good games. I guess the commentary could be better, but that's easy to say and I don't really know what is feasible, but one thing I remember I didn't understand was in a fight where you'd harpies (I think) splitted in stacks of 1/1/1/1/1/rest (and 2 other units), the harpies apparently have double attack and when the single harpy stack first struck it did almost nothing in damage, but the second attack removed 6 enemies from the enemy stack?? I look forward to see the final battle!
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted January 19, 2016 02:46 PM |
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ohforsake, thanks you for watching our stream.
Your question is connected to the most powerful ability for creeping in heroes 7. Each time a friendly melee creature attacks(not on retals) it triggers an attack of the gnoll(which is half his damage. If you boost them with full range that is taken into account too). So you basically split in as many single ones as possible - each single one does minimal damage but the gnolls send their greeting with a bloody knife
note, taken about the commentary.
Maurice, on the main hero screen with the creatures(H hotkey) there is one red icon outside the circular area with the hero model.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 19, 2016 03:04 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 15:05, 19 Jan 2016.
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natalka said:
Maurice, on the main hero screen with the creatures(H hotkey) there is one red icon outside the circular area with the hero model.
I'll have to see next time I play the game (if ever), but I never noticed it when I played it  . Thanks for the pointer!
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The last Reasonable Steward of Good Game Design and a Responsible Hero of HC. - Verriker
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RedPanties
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 19, 2016 03:26 PM |
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I see many folks want to upload the streams. To our excuse, I will add that I have never done streaming before and still haven`t figured out all the kinks.
EDIT Oh damn, it was one checkbox away
I see Natalia is very cocky about winning but I would say - she picked best hero in the best faction, teleported like a snow and then waits me in home area with all the friggin buildings. Only a woman can do that.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted January 19, 2016 08:05 PM |
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RedPanties
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 20, 2016 08:45 AM |
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Boy this game is surely bugged.
First we encountered the bug in tactics phase where Natalka couldn`t lay down the army.
Then she attacked my hero instead after a reload and she could split alright. As you can see this arena is not normal size and as I said on the stream if you see a road you will get this combat arena on it in 100 % of the time which is another issue with the game. I had some boots that gave me +10 init to shooters which in turn lead to Druids acting before Cents and MH acting before Gnolls. If I didn`t have that it would be even more bizarre. We have played that pair(Starsinger v Warmonger) in arena a lot so both sides were prepared. I knew that storm arrows could do a lot of damage to her troops if I keep the shooters inside lol
She on the other picked mass stone skin and chose only defence in all stat locations. This is in part of Pefect Offence versus Perfect Defence which I will not discuss now.
After waiting with Pixies and Sun Deers, oh boy if you send the deers for slaugther. With Pixies having first init you can wait and have double turn afterwards and fly, fly to block shooters. I didn`t use that but it is a viable strategy versus any faction.
I must admit natalka positioned her army extremely well and managed to launch a good assault. An assault which was accompanied with her extreme luck/morale. In the above screen she gets luck and morale with Wyverns turning their 39-67 kills into a full kill for the poor dryads.
My druids were open now but at least they could launch their special buffed by storm arrows for a whopping damage. I managed to shut down Cents, Furies and reduce Wyverns. That`s gonna hurt - Elvin wrote in chat.
At this point I felt Natalka is not very confident in winning and maybe I could have pulled it off.
Natalka`s hero Shani has this mod to give her +1 Might/+1 Def for every 2 levels of hero to Crushers and Brutes. So this pesky Crushers got in position and again lucky strike + morale reduced my Emeralds from 9 to 1.
I don`t know if this was a tactical mistake on my side but my plan at that moment was to suicide the 1 emerald in the behemoths and place the 22 Sun Deers( who have much more hp) over the emeralds so I can shoot more with the master hunters. The game got bugged from the spray attack of the emeralds and 13 behemoths retaliated to my Sun Deers and killed 14 of it. At this point I wanted to replay the whole battle because it is unfair...We agreed that we will spoil the stream so the battle continued.
END OF ROUND 1
Maybe this move lost me the game but I think she would have raped me with the Crushers if I didn`t implode them. After I cast implosion on them the effect of the pull moved my both shooters in the open field. AAAAAAAAAARRHHHHHH. WTF?? I didn`t know they can move thru other creatures. I didn`t do my homework this time. I felt very down after that and had another stupid move with the deers. Excuse me but first a bug kills my deers than my stupidity puts shooters in the open. I surrendered at the middle of that round but we continued to play for the viewers.
At beginning of round 3 we noticed that implosion is bugged. YES, another bug! The echo from it doesn`t take account the resistance of the orcs - Might over Magic and actually the echo does slightly more than the original lol. Next rounds we saw another anomalies - the echo triggered echo on adjacent units that have previously suffered from implosion.
So we continued the battle for fun but at this point I wanted to show off a nice trick. Unfortunately I didn`t have enough damage on the Earthquake. On that screen she can finish me next round and my 3x3 spell coudln`t do much to help me. I wanted to cast Earthquake but her centaurs and basilisks would survive along with my dancers. A pity ! Then I decided to risk it and cast chain lightning but it did more damage to me than to her units.
EDIT: This time the broadcast is saved along with some commentary so you can check it out.
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OhforfSake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted January 20, 2016 12:48 PM |
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RedPanties said:
EDIT: This time the broadcast is saved along with some commentary so you can check it out.
Yes thank you for uploading it, I saw it yesterday and I like it got so close.
I didn't realize all those bugs happened though, a bit sad with such a long game leading up for a potentially epic final. When the unit count was low and you still had 44 of those sword guys I started to think you'd maybe pull it off with offensive spells in the end, I guess they had less hp than I assumed.
Btw. like Elvin I had the same buffering issue with the video buffering all the time, so I had to give up watching in real time, but the issue isn't in the saved broadcast. I didn't have this issue the previous days.
Also thank you for the nice and detailed post, very good quality.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted January 20, 2016 01:23 PM |
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Edited by natalka at 16:09, 28 Feb 2016.
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To clarify , it got close because Panties surrendered turn 2 and I didn't maximize damage afterwards. Bugged implosion killed about 3 behemoths, 40 crushers, 6 basilisks more. So with these troops there wouldn't be such tension.
I must admit, there was a thrill on first attacks of Wyverns, Crushers,Druids. I miss multiplayer
I decided we make a rematch today , hopefully no bugs this time. I agree to play with the implo handicap and Panties promised he will not pull out the shooters again. Then we can play some arena games. If interested u know where to stop by.
Panties tested stream with friend and he said no problems . Now from work it buffers but here inet is 3.5 Mbit and this is the minimum I guess.
I am glad they fixed the issues with perfect offense and defense. For this matchup I always had *1 damage modifier even on Behes. I guess they shouldn't suffer from perf. Defense .
Knowing that opponent is with defense and me with offense GM brings interesting things:
1) I absolutely don't need storm arrows - it would be total waste
2) attack artifacts are also not needed - that's why I chose -4 hp relic instead of +4 attack
3) never choose attack in stat boosters
Implosion seems to be very good spell that scales with armies. It did 1500 dmg to Crushers while poison cloud would do half of that and it has echo. So his tactic with implosions and in the end earthquake was on point.
EDIT: we will be streaming some arena games for the next 2-3 hours.
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