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Otuken
Famous Hero
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posted September 07, 2019 03:03 PM |
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It is not a big issue having one creature that immune to armageddon, berserk and blind is invaluable.
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted September 07, 2019 03:05 PM |
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I don't find Castle boring at all - conflux bores me to tears on the other hand. Inferno makes me want to claw my eyes out.
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monere
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted September 07, 2019 04:14 PM |
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Quote: Funny that you try to trigger me on the pvp part, where, from your own comment, you have 0% experience
something can be true whether or not people experience it. For example, it can be true that Castle wins most of the time against most factions when 2 equally skilled players play against each other, one of them being Castle and the other one being anything except for Necro (which is even gayer than Castle). So, the fact that I have 0% experience in PvP games doesn't mean that my statement it's not true. If you agree with me (which you should IF you have any honesty in you at all) then your argument about me having 0% experience is not true.
Quote: Also, based on your own description of your playing style, you never confront opponent before 11th month, so guess what: having 500 archangels and your hero full of relics vs some artificially "locked" AI is, maybe, boring?
this is not boring because when final battle comes the AI always has better hero than me, it always has bigger army than me, and I always pre-set it with the best artifact combos and artifacts in general to suit that particular hero and particular army. I still have to figure out how to defeat it (I'm talking about WoG, where with some finetuning of the WoG options you can really make the computer challenging), even if I had 500 AAs, which many times I do. You try and defeat a level 66 Tazar with 800 Hell Hydras, elixir of life on, expert in all magic schools, and whatnot. I can bet that even you - or any other so-called expert, I don't care - will have troubles defeating it from the first try without (spamming) game reloading until you get terrain advantage or some other cheating thing that so-called pros do in order to become pros
Quote: Sal is a PvP veteran
I couldn't care less
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted September 07, 2019 04:39 PM |
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Except that Castle does not win most of the games. We have data from various tournaments statistics (HERE for example, and they show that, while Castle getting the most picks, it has almost equal w/l ratio. Rampart is doing better on that scale.
My observation on your 12 month style was precisely about you not seeing the backside of the castle town, which is getting angels fast, before week 2. There is where it sucks and requires excellent skill, planning and infinitesimal casualties. Other towns are more advantaged during the 7th tier path, as they either can build it faster and cheaper, or the intermediate creatures can rock for a few days.
Castle with pikemen (and no archers prior to Hota) has a very harsh time to get the 20k in time. The masochist path where you have to build blacksmith and marketplace is pouring blood from inexperienced players.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted September 07, 2019 05:17 PM |
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I think the best is Dungeon, Black Dragon for you, because H4 has shown a film. When powerful Black Dragon and Armageddon. Overlord gets Logistics, and goes to collecting experience against 30/30 AAs by fast. Yes Phoenix also can use a strategy, but 21/18 is hard work to get past the statistics of AAs. I spoke in the future. If it helped you. Remember it solution isn't easy but random to win. Example of my guy beat me, if his team is Rampart. But AA is always the best in H3, they don't use a Water and Air, when hero casts clone AA against Black Dragon. It means in general game. Earth changes strategy.
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Otuken
Famous Hero
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posted September 07, 2019 05:31 PM |
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My guess is because Rampart is cheaper has awesone lvl1-3 units and better heroes than Castle it may give Rampart an edge in initial rounds and it placed Rampart to the first place. Though when I checked the last time Castle was in the first place.
Does anyone give me similar stats for HotA?
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monere
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted September 07, 2019 07:39 PM |
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Edited by monere at 19:41, 07 Sep 2019.
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Salamandre.... ok, you make good points, but how exactly do you see that Rampart is doing better? I can't find that statistic anywhere, I only see G/W/L/Pi and neither of these stats depicts what you've said. Also, damn, it took 40-50 secs for that table to load!
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted September 07, 2019 08:07 PM |
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W = wins with that town, L = loses.
castle has 4552 wins and 4308 loses out of 8860 games, a 51% win ratio.
rampart has 4122 wins and 3640 loses out of 7762, a 53% win ratio
Site is now obsolete, maybe thats why so slow.
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monere
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted September 07, 2019 10:19 PM |
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Edited by monere at 22:22, 07 Sep 2019.
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ah-ha! So that's how you get the stats...
Well, not much of a difference to be honest, but it's still good enough for me to dislike Castle a bit less. Just a bit, though
Regarding the site: it's all good. I don't think much has changed in terms of strategy, therefore results, between 2012 and now with regards to H3
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magnomagus
Admirable
Legendary Hero
modding wizard
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posted September 07, 2019 10:27 PM |
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Quote: castle has 4552 wins and 4308 loses out of 8860 games, a 51% win ratio.
rampart has 4122 wins and 3640 loses out of 7762, a 53% win ratio
My knowledge of H3 is very rusty, but I was interested to see those statistics, in most scientific polls 2% is likely in margin of error.
But more interestingly if you look, not at all maps but only at single map Random Jebus that accounts for almost half the played matches with castle the result is very different and strongly in favor of castle:
Catle +5.7% win
Stronghold +1.6% win
Fortress -0,7% loss
Tower -2.75% loss
Rampart -4.5% loss
Inferno -4.8% loss
Dungeon -8.9% loss
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted September 07, 2019 11:06 PM |
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Dungeon doing the worst?, now there is a surprise. Are people playing on Impossible or having trouble building dragons or?
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Otuken
Famous Hero
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posted September 08, 2019 12:07 AM |
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phoenix4ever said: Dungeon doing the worst?, now there is a surprise. Are people playing on Impossible or having trouble building dragons or?
Dungeon is below average town it didn't surprize me at all. They are overall expensive, cannot benefit terrain advantage if starts on surface in SoD, they lack of high damage dealer ranger unit and this town produce weekly one of the least damage output per week.
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CountBezuhoff
Supreme Hero
Nihil sub sole novum
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posted September 08, 2019 12:31 AM |
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Jeebus cross is gay.
The Count
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 08, 2019 01:38 AM |
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It is no secret that certain maps favour specific towns. And some fan favourite maps have been played to an insane degree. In h5 I knew more than a few people that had played hour glass 80-100+ times.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted September 08, 2019 05:41 AM |
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Because they don't play Fire skill. And what? The best chess openings. Weak players also play the best openings. But their skill isn't enough to win. Statistics cannot be trusted. Ok remember also different maps affect different ways of winning.
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Zaio-Baio
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 08, 2019 10:04 PM |
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Elvin said: In h5 I knew more than a few people that had played hour glass 80-100+ times.
Rookie score. I know a guy that played H5 map "Key to victory" over 10 years
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted September 08, 2019 10:45 PM |
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phoenix4ever said: Dungeon doing the worst?, now there is a surprise. Are people playing on Impossible or having trouble building dragons or?
Dungeon is easiest to resource-lock due to stupid requirements.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted September 08, 2019 11:03 PM |
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But Rampart can be just as hard, if not harder than Dungeon to build, but Rampart was'nt doing too good in that comparison chart either.
I played a map as Rampart yesterday and it took me a very long time to get unicorns and of course even longer to get dragons, due to bad luck with resources.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted September 08, 2019 11:24 PM |
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How is rampart harder than dungeon, when you have gran elves day 1?
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted September 09, 2019 06:30 AM |
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Because like I said, I got unlucky with resources, only got a few gems and not enough crystals.
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