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Blake00
Blake00


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posted February 22, 2023 09:22 AM
Edited by Blake00 at 09:32, 22 Feb 2023.

Newsletter 30 is here. Greg tells more behind the scenes HoMM3 dev stuff with this one being part 1 of a (not so exciting) new story.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter30


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Blake00
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posted March 06, 2023 07:10 AM
Edited by Blake00 at 11:23, 09 May 2023.

Newsletter 31 is here. Greg continues with part 2 of his story about... oh man I don't even know it's about anymore lol. Something about takin a dump in the dark and a good game needs a heavy game box lol! Think he's running a bit low on material lol!

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter31



03/04/2023 EDIT:

Newsletter 32 is here. No HoMM3 stories this time as Greg is still unwell. Interestingly he tackles the scam accusation some have thrown his way.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter32



09/05/2023 EDIT:

Newsletter 33 is here. Greg tells another story about the joys of working under 3DO management back in the day and what was the beginning of him deciding to leave NWC.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter33


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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


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posted May 09, 2023 03:24 PM

He also never fails to mention his health. He’d be soooo much further along if only this darn Covid wasn’t getting in his way…for years…

But the game continues. He absolutely debunked all theories that this game does not exist, in one of his latest entries, by telling us that yes it does exist. And he can’t share a screenshot because he’s an artist or something. All worries vanished.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 09, 2023 10:38 PM

Yeah, he probably lacks a good programmer with sufficient free time.
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Voice in Gelu's Head
posted May 29, 2023 01:59 AM

Did anything ever come of that Ubisoft job posting last year claiming that another Might and Magic triple A game is in the works?
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 29, 2023 04:06 PM

Rimgrabber said:
Did anything ever come of that Ubisoft job posting last year claiming that another Might and Magic triple A game is in the works?


Not that I know of. But my hopes are at 0 regarding Ubisucks.
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Voice in Gelu's Head
posted May 29, 2023 09:40 PM

I have a faint glimmer of hope now that Erwin is gone and there's been a resurgance of Heroes-like indie games. I don't know what Erwin's deal was with his weird grudge against the series but I don't think that degree of incompetence is terribly common. I haven't played any other Ubisoft games though so maye I'm wrong, I've heard Assassin's Creed is pretty bad nowadays too.
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Blake00
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posted June 04, 2023 07:45 AM

Newsletter 34 is here. This time Greg tells the story of his first time discovering WinAmp & MP3s and how 3DO being cheap forced NWC to develop their own MP3 decoder for Heroes 3 so they could get the whole thing on one disc.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter34


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posted July 05, 2023 10:47 AM

Newsletter 35 is here. This time Greg tells the story of his (uncredited) involvement in the Heroes 2 Gold Edition and how they put all those extra maps in it while trying to get Heroes 3 finished.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter35


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posted August 04, 2023 03:58 PM

Newsletter 36 is here. This time Greg talks about the whole lost Heroes of Might & Magic 3 Complete source code situation mentioning how it has actually been found and given to Ubisoft in 2019 (wow I missed the news on that) to fix up their HD remake yet nothing has occurred. Also noticed people seem to be voting for it in this steam thread and getting the usual PR marketing responses from Ubisoft lol.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter36


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Voice in Gelu's Head
posted August 09, 2023 02:57 AM

I gotta say I stopped paying attention to the newsletters awhile ago. It's been 3 years and no news about any actual game development. Too bad, I was really excited when I first heard about the project.
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


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posted August 11, 2023 03:59 PM

IIRC, dude even said he’s gonna need crowdfunding. There’s not a chance in hell I’d donate after years of this weird h3 story time while ensuring game development is going on but refusing to show any of it. Never missing a chance to mention how he’s always sick.

At this point I think  he should just pause the newsletters and resume them when he can share progress. And pick a different name in the meantime

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Blake00
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posted September 02, 2023 03:26 PM

Yeah I do find myself wondering if this is all going to stop and disappear at some point...

In the meantime newsletter 37 is here lol. This time Greg talks about making the Heroes 3 Demo map.

https://www.fanstratics.com/fstnewsletter37


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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 02, 2023 09:24 PM

I mean, the booklet is cool.
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Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 05, 2023 12:25 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 00:26, 05 Sep 2023.

The_Green_Drag said:
IIRC, dude even said he’s gonna need crowdfunding. There’s not a chance in hell I’d donate after years of this weird h3 story time while ensuring game development is going on but refusing to show any of it. Never missing a chance to mention how he’s always sick.

At this point I think  he should just pause the newsletters and resume them when he can share progress. And pick a different name in the meantime


Well, fanstratics is a terrible name for sure, but The Green Drag also has some unfortunate implications...

And yeah, I have believed for at least two years he's never going to make the game at all and it was just an excuse to talk about H3. Slowly but surely his "notes" about development have ceased and he just shares anecdotes. Not that I mind but why keep the pretense that there's anything else going on at this point.
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AlexSpl
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posted September 06, 2023 09:48 PM
Edited by AlexSpl at 21:51, 06 Sep 2023.

I disagree. And you have no respect to one of the true Fathers of HoMM3. Now there is a stage of concepts. You cannot 3D-model if you don't have sketches. Do you really think that to code a game would require infinity with ready assets? 1 year to the studio of 5 people. Can be done in 6 months even, assuming complexity of the project. What we really see now? I think, Greg don't have money even for hiring that 5 coders + 3D artists. But don't think that those concepts are useless. They can be put into production in no time, resulting in beautiful 3D-models, plus 1 year to write the game logic for people which hands don't grow from their ass(hole).

Mind that Fanstratics is the indie project, no backup from big daddy like 3DO. Therefore, this project needs our financial aid. But I understand that you need 'proofs' of development. The only proof you can have now is the word of the man who was closely involved in the creation of the game which in many usual and unusual ways intertwined with your lives. I don't like your skepticism. Greg Fulton tries to resurrect a miracle game once saw more than 20 years ago into something that will return you back in time, to that version of you that still loves HoMM. Just believe and support.

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posted September 06, 2023 10:19 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 22:29, 06 Sep 2023.

Stage of concepts, pf... 1 creature sketch every month. I can create 240 in an hour with the aid of AI.

Also, AFAIK, he isn't even collecting money now so all these years for some creature sketches.

Yes, he may be good developer with a solid grasp on the genre, but if "story grandpa" doesn't have money or motivation, this game is never getting made. That's just a fact, not disrespect.



There, I made rune-etched gargoyle concept, full color and light too.

Greg doesn't like that particular one? No matter, I have 30+ others to choose



Month = saved
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AlexSpl
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posted September 06, 2023 10:36 PM

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There, I made rune-etched gargoyle concept, full color too. Month = saved

If this concept was made with AI assistance than know that AI in its current state is not capable to create something new. Basically, AI just accumulate all available for it assets and implement to them some adjustments (from obvious simple math transformations to not so obvious ones, depends on the algorithm). But AI is nobody without artists work. It cannot improvise, it cannot create new things. Yes, some of you have seen "wow"-creations of AI algorithms, but the "wow" component is based on your absense of knowledge of the original graphics AI used in its transformation algorithm. Moreover, I laugh when people think that AI progressed in any way. It stays just a (sophisticated, more and more with each year) algorithm. Just a algorithm. For example, there is no AI which can return n-th prime number. Why? Because it's just an algorithm which use big-data in the way *programmers* taught it to do

Back to the topic. Do you know any game that would inspire you like HoMM3? Songs of Conquest is close, but look, you like Rampart screen more then entire SoC game So, right concepts and their 3D-models are of the ultimate importance.

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AlexSpl
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posted September 06, 2023 11:08 PM

Answer to yourselves to this simple question - would you play HoMM if it had all its mechanics but adventure map and combat field was represented in ASCII (like in ADOM)? I don't think so. Yes, there were some people who would appreciated its core gameplay. But... Let's be honest, HoMM is loved for its visuals, only then - for its gameplay.

People who created atrocities instead of beauty on towns screens, had no idea of their importance. Just look at HoMM6 or 7, uninspiring in the best case. Why they haven't people who can say "it's snow, bro" to the face? Instead, they pay money to those who just reassures that the game will work in the hearts of target audience. Yeah, but, as we see, there is something wrong with reassuring pals

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NimoStar
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Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 06, 2023 11:15 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 23:22, 06 Sep 2023.

AI doesn't "modify existing art". All database is abstracted into parameters, then (from math parameters ONLY) is new art produced. Whole model is much smaller than image data. Imagine this uses exabytes of images from the whole internet, while the base Stable Diffusion model is just a few gigabytes. The "images" can never be part of the model.

Also, neural networks aren't algorithms, thus why their working and output is random and they can be "creative", and they just use approximate values.

Yet, this is derailing...

PS: I '''do''' like the Rampart town screen more than the whole Songs of Conquest. But I also like my art more than the one that Fanstratics hired. Death reaper at the top of page looks like H5 "world of warcraft-inspired" style...

Isn't it, in fact, the same just with a book? Even the three skulls hanging from chains? So much for "human creativity"

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