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phe
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Life and Freedom
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posted August 30, 2020 12:35 PM |
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Poll Question:
Should negatives of Titan's artifact be removed?
Should negatives of Titan's Gladius, Sentinel's Shield, Titan's Cuirass and Thunder Helmet artifact be removed?
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted August 30, 2020 01:28 PM |
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I made the sword and shield +9 and the armor and helm +8.
The armor and helm felt weird to me in their original state.
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Hourglass
Supreme Hero
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posted August 30, 2020 01:53 PM |
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Idk, but the voting doesn't seem to always work correctly in these forums.
Anyway, I don't really know why the negatives shouldn't exist. Maybe they could have been designed a bit differently, probably this kind "effect" would have been bit more impactful on minor and/or major artifacts, or maybe they should have made so that the player would gain more might in cost of magic and vice versa. But overall, interesting artifacts nonetheless.
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted August 30, 2020 02:30 PM |
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Absolutely NOT
Negatives is what makes these artifacts fun and special
Is anything they should have more negatives and more artifacts should have negatives, and also extra positives.
Like instead of +12 -3 it gives +15 and -6
That forces to think you on strategy: HOw can I ensure my creatures attack first to benefit from the attack bonus? Etc.
Don't make the game boring and untactical
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 30, 2020 03:03 PM |
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The problem with the armor and helm is that the -2's can be completely ignored, essentially making them +10 items.
Only when equipping the full set, you are forced to get the -2's.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted August 30, 2020 03:11 PM |
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No. Heavy artifact is also benefit to balance 99 primary skills with, if not, 99 goes to 1 att. Nice old 3DO engine.
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Hourglass
Supreme Hero
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posted August 30, 2020 03:15 PM |
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Phoenix4ever said:
The problem with the armor and helm is that the -2's can be completely ignored, essentially making them +10 items.
Only when equipping the full set, you are forced to get the -2's.
This isn't a problem at all, it's just smart use of these artifacts.
The sword and shield negatives can also be played around - just give them to hero with no attack/defence.
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
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posted August 30, 2020 03:40 PM |
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Yeah I don't know, I just don't like them, but that is of course only my humble opinion.
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gatecrasher
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posted August 30, 2020 06:00 PM |
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I wonder why you still play the game with that many aspects you don't like about it.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 30, 2020 06:23 PM |
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Well if things can be improved, why not do that...
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NimoStar
Responsible
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Modding the Unmoddable
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posted August 31, 2020 11:56 AM |
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"I just don't like them" is not a valid option.
The negative armor CAN be ignored, just use archers, you can kill opponents before they get to you.
In fact, tactically used, the extra attack is much better than the negative defense. Even without aqrchery you can just attack first, not like H4 where attack and defense is simultaneous.
Anyways, you modifiction doesn't count because it's not even available to public :V
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Phoenix4ever
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posted August 31, 2020 12:09 PM |
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It might be available soon, but I think some people are going to hate it, but perhaps we'll see...
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PandaTar
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posted August 31, 2020 04:11 PM |
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I find these penalties a bit odd. Specially the ones regarding spell and knowledge. You get a thing that makes your casting power greater, but you get dumber and with less spell points to use that new power. OR, you get more knowledgeable and can cast more spells ... which got weaker.
The sword and shield make sense. Brandishing a giant swords will make one clumsy and prone to have a harder time trying to defend themselves. Such would be the use of an enormous shield and trying to attack while holding it.
Armor and Helmet could have something else. If armor is a titan thing, could protect your troops from lightning at some extend, but make them vulnerable to something else. Well, combination of penalties are aplenty.
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