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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted February 28, 2021 01:05 PM |
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Any way to set permanent vision?
Hello everyone. Is there a way to give permanent vision for specific areas via triggers? I am looking for this for a long time and sadly still i haven't found any solution for that.
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Karmakeld
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted February 28, 2021 01:57 PM |
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Is it permanent vision for the player, that is without the fog of war shrouding the vision?
If thats the case, you can either place a neutral army or hero in the specific area, and trigger a change of owner (use army properties) at any time you desire. Most likely you should block in this army so it cant be attacked or used. This will grant you the visibility that army posseses. If using a hero you can extend the visible area using artifacts and/or the Scouting skill.
The downside is, this will take up 1 army slot. Usually you can only have up to 8 armies on the map at the same time.
You can place a flagable object, like a mine or dwelling in the specific area and trigger a similar change of owner at any given time (timed event, placed event, triggered event).
Again you should block this if you want to keep the visibility, and prevent others from capturing the mine/dwelling.
The downside here, is that mines will generate an extra income (you can counter this via scripts if you want to). As for dwellings, blocking access to the dwelling, will prevent the use of caravans.
3rd option is to use eg. a garrison and make the guards stationary and blocked in or mod an object. I recall the fort can be triggered like a garrison, but whereas you can add the option to make objects flagable by modding and thus provide vision area, we can't yet add scripts to make things triggerable.
Hope this was helpful
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radmutant69
Promising
Known Hero
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posted February 28, 2021 03:12 PM |
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Thinking a little bit further about Karmakeld's proposals, you could even use a customized object, for example something like this inaccessible and nameless Evil Eye dwelling which has no visible flag, but it can be flagged by triggered events. This way you probably can do what you wanted.
The only problem is the relatively small area that you can see around it.
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vulcancolak
Famous Hero
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posted March 03, 2021 06:20 PM |
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You two always nice to me. Thank you for your help.
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Karmakeld
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted March 03, 2021 06:27 PM |
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vulcancolak said:
You two always nice to me. Thank you for your help.
Hey thats what the communties are for 
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 03, 2021 11:40 PM |
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i use eyes of the magi, myself. i usually place them at choke points so i know when the enemy is closer, or somewhere they will get stronger, or where they could die and lose armies.
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted April 01, 2021 10:18 AM |
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You can place Outposts. This is an unused feature but it works.
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted April 30, 2021 08:41 AM |
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Ofcourse is a solution but Ive not found this file. Here I have:
shroud yes/no
Simply ad to registry shroud/noshroud. Interesting experience must check!
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted May 02, 2021 04:43 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 16:43, 02 May 2021.
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another thing I researched. Outposts have less line of sight than garrisons.
If you make a custom garrison object with no entrance (or with just a side entrance), it acts like a better outpost.
Another advantage is that garrisons have flag anim, and outposts don't.
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Karmakeld
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted May 02, 2021 08:01 PM |
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NimoStar said:
another thing I researched. Outposts have less line of sight than garrisons.
If you make a custom garrison object with no entrance (or with just a side entrance), it acts like a better outpost.
Another advantage is that garrisons have flag anim, and outposts don't.
Then you just gotta add the flag/flagable option to the Outpost 
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted May 03, 2021 04:44 PM |
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Right
But it's still just a worse garrison even on line of sight :V
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted May 03, 2021 07:03 PM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 19:04, 03 May 2021.
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Anyways, I set the flag and it appears in editor... but not ingame.
(notice how you can see they provide vision, but no flag is there)
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iliveinabox05
Honorable
Famous Hero
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posted May 03, 2021 07:42 PM |
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I'll add an issue for it so that I don't forget to take a look at that.
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NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
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posted May 07, 2021 02:23 PM |
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Strangely enough, outpost flags are displaying now
I changed the map, but I absolutely didn't touch the object.
So who knows.
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