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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 23, 2021 01:09 AM |
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Heroes Community 202X
>I-I'm right because... I just am! You don't understand because you... you're biased!
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 23, 2021 01:21 AM |
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bravo. you accurately described yours and your buddies' stances. well done. 
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 23, 2021 01:23 AM |
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How many times do I have to tell you that I do not take a side here?
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted April 23, 2021 01:49 AM |
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Best trick to be “infallible” isnt it. 
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 23, 2021 02:03 AM |
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More like be surrounded by enemies from all sides. But I don't mind, I never subscribe to dualist views anyway.
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted April 23, 2021 02:37 AM |
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@noobx
What are your thoughts on the Yugoslav Wars?
This is not a trap. I'm genuinely interested.
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"Folks, I don't trust children. They're here to replace us."
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Gnomes2169
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
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posted April 23, 2021 02:37 AM |
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*Sees the thread is titled 202X.*
*Wave of disappointment as there are no megaman memes in here.*
You have failed me, Nooby.
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
-Ghost destroying Fred
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Galatea
Supreme Hero
Well, I'm Ceres!
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posted April 23, 2021 03:02 AM |
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Well, we must accept change.
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And she told you, laughing down to her core, so she would not cry, as she lay on your lap,
"Nobody here can live forever, quiet in the grasp of dusk and summer."
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 23, 2021 03:35 AM |
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NoobX said:
How many times do I have to tell you that I do not take a side here?
how exactly do you not take a side, when you only ever argue from the same standpoint as the people i and others here argue against? when was the last time you agreed with anything i and others who tell the truth, said? if you ever did, it was ancient history.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted April 23, 2021 05:16 AM |
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Why not Heroes Community vs heroes maps?
Settlers3 is alive yet, and you can't play in Windows 10, Youtube or other showed Settlers3 works in Windows 10, it's not true.
If Heroes 12 part, we are 60-80yo. I hope some arranges veteran tournament, because brain isn't top effect any. 40yo can't be veteran, but over 60yo. Lith, Sal, Bloodsucker are over 50yo. Maybe! No cheat! Ok then in about 5-10yo then veteran tournament starts..
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted April 23, 2021 09:18 AM |
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Gnomes2169 said:
*Sees the thread is titled 202X.*
*Wave of disappointment as there are no megaman memes in here.*
You have failed me, Nooby.
Megaman is a dead franchise.
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted April 23, 2021 10:04 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:06, 23 Apr 2021.
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HC is dead unless it's about politics or arguments. Recent activity only confirms it. It was "easier" when we argued about games only...
There are threads that see some interest but not at a rate that would justify regular visits. OGET section which I'm interested in is mostly dead.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted April 23, 2021 10:07 AM |
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If Adrius, Meroe, xerox back. So Elvin and JoonasTo are joining dead RT.
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 23, 2021 11:16 AM |
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blizzardboy said:
@noobx
What are your thoughts on the Yugoslav Wars?
This is not a trap. I'm genuinely interested.
Peak idiotism/nationalism that has left ex-yu states a meme even to this day. But I guess I should be glad they happened because it was under all these specific circumstances that events led to my birth.
fred79 said:
how exactly do you not take a side, when you only ever argue from the same standpoint as the people i and others here argue against?
See, this is what I don't like. I don't like this tendency to oversimplify things that should not be oversimplified. The fact that I disagree with your position does not automatically mean I take the other side. That isn't hard to understand, but I guess I have to put it out there just to make it clear. From my perspective you're not all wrong, but also not all correct, too. The fact that you view everything as some sort of a huge conspiracy is just absurd, however. There is no conspiracy, this is the way of politics. You say that the Democrats are working in the shadows as if they are the only ones with dirty hands. I cannot agree with that. Everyone's involved here. Thinking that Trump was going to fight the "system" is beyond unreasonable. Thinking that Democrats are inclusive and supportive and vocal about injustices because they're altruistic is also unreasonable. Altruism doesn't hold strong in the face of realpolitik.
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when was the last time you agreed with anything i and others who tell the truth, said? if you ever did, it was ancient history.
Imagine the audacity to claim something like this... What do you expect of me? To agree with you just because you say you're telling the truth? Doesn't sound compelling at all. Because you link some article or statistic? That's immediately refuted by the other side.
It's a stalemate from my perspective. No one here is compelling enough to follow.
inb4: "You're a sheep if you don't agree with me"
That doesn't work.
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 23, 2021 02:42 PM |
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@ noobx: you mention "grand conspiracy" like i pull snow out of my ass. let me ask you: why are your views the same as the media's? why did europeans hate our last president so much? why was that even something they were so passionate about? i don't get passionate about leaders from other countries, myself. seems pretty pointless, if you ask me. why the emotional stake? why does that emotional stake mirror the medias?
why does every single point leftists/liberals/most europeans stand by, mirror the media that all more or less say the same thing, not only in their own countries, but WORLDWIDE?
you'd think there'd be a significant deviant media/populace viewpoint from the "majority", since we are all people with our own brains, no?
do you know the history of governments(or people in power vs the populace), their influence, and propaganda? if you pay attention to history at all, there's a running theme: power. the use of it, and the retaining(important to note) of it.
it's not a conspiracy that most people consume mass media for convenience. it's not a conspiracy that those in power use that same media for control. it's not a conspiracy that those in power, prefer to stay there.
if you understand people on a basic level, you understand everything that entails. what i don't understand, is why people continually deny the obvious. fear? most likely. complacence? very likely. safety? that could be a factor as well, if they truly understand who they're up against.
me? i prefer the bold-faced truth. humans cannot evolve or ever have a chance of surviving, as a species, if we don't first face facts.
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Lith-Maethor
Honorable
Legendary Hero
paid in Coin and Cleavage
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posted April 23, 2021 03:22 PM |
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Heh...
Fred, I hope you don't mind me tackling a couple of those.
fred79 said:
why did europeans hate our last president so much?
He made it very easy for them. You can call Trump many things. "Diplomatic" and "subtle" are not among them.
fred79 said:
why was that even something they were so passionate about?
Vested interest, no doubt. At the absolute very least, Trump sold.
fred79 said:
i don't get passionate about leaders from other countries, myself. seems pretty pointless, if you ask me. why the emotional stake?
You can afford to, we can't. Like it or not, what happens in the States does categorically not stay in the States.
fred79 said:
why does that emotional stake mirror the medias?
A coincidence they are all too happy to exploit.
fred79 said:
why does every single point leftists/liberals/most europeans stand by, mirror the media that all more or less say the same thing, not only in their own countries, but WORLDWIDE?
See previous answers. What happens elsewhere, affects them. Also, we're a global village now. No going back. Even if you don't think there are people pulling the strings (and I do think there are), that's plenty of reason there.
fred79 said:
you'd think there'd be a significant deviant media/populace viewpoint from the "majority", since we are all people with our own brains, no?
There's a difference between dissenting and being vocal about it. The former is "safe", the latter is not. Not in the current climate.
fred79 said:
if you understand people on a basic level, you understand everything that entails. what i don't understand, is why people continually deny the obvious. fear? most likely. complacence? very likely. safety? that could be a factor as well, if they truly understand who they're up against.
A combination of picking your fights and taking the easy way out, I reckon. It doesn't always happen, but people are usually averse to conflict. Even when it would be in their best interest long-term not to be.
fred79 said:
me? i prefer the bold-faced truth. humans cannot evolve or ever have a chance of surviving, as a species, if we don't first face facts.
We wholeheartedly agree on this one. Whenever someone offers me the truth, however, I consider the source and the circumstances.
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You are suffering from delusions of adequacy.
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Gnomes2169
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Duke of the Glade
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posted April 23, 2021 03:35 PM |
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Kipshasz said:
Gnomes2169 said:
*Sees the thread is titled 202X.*
*Wave of disappointment as there are no megaman memes in here.*
You have failed me, Nooby.
Megaman is a dead franchise.
And HC is a dead website, so it WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT, KIP!
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
-Ghost destroying Fred
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Kipshasz
Undefeatable Hero
Elvin's Darkside
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posted April 23, 2021 03:54 PM |
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good point.
However.
Foreveranoob is a serb.
they didn't know what the bleep megaman was untill Yugoslavia collapsed and your government bombed them.
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 23, 2021 03:54 PM |
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fred79 said:
let me ask you: why are your views the same as the media's?
They aren't.
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why did europeans hate our last president so much? why was that even something they were so passionate about?
Simple answer: he was Republican.
Less simple answer: he was the leader of the most influential country in the world and he behaved (first of all) crass, off-kilter in regards to the leftist policies which are being promoted both in the former USA administration and the EU. The media certainly hyped up the election and Hillary was viewed as the potential beacon of progressiveness (due to the fact that she could've been the first female president of the USA). Trump was, well, Trump - loud, opinionated and instinctive.
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why the emotional stake? why does that emotional stake mirror the medias?
Medias play with people and the best way to get a lot of traction is to play on emotions. That is, for example, why today's news are sensational instead of informative.
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why does every single point leftists/liberals/most europeans stand by, mirror the media that all more or less say the same thing, not only in their own countries, but WORLDWIDE?
you'd think there'd be a significant deviant media/populace viewpoint from the "majority", since we are all people with our own brains, no?
It's a psychological question mostly. It is easier to go with the crowd. As someone who's been an outsider most of my life, I've rejected the mainstream because the mainstream rejects me as I am. But that is not the case with most people. Basic human instinct tells us that conservation of energy is good for survival, and by shutting off their brains, people conserve a lot of energy they would've otherwise used to think critically. Also, there is the "If there's so many people backing this position/view, then it must have some merit" type of thought in there. Deviant thought has been shut down from the dawn of mankind since it brings discord into society. There are a lot of points to be made about this particular question, these are just some that come to mind in an instant.
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do you know the history of governments(or people in power vs the populace), their influence, and propaganda? if you pay attention to history at all, there's a running theme: power. the use of it, and the retaining(important to note) of it.
Absolutely.
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it's not a conspiracy that most people consume mass media for convenience. it's not a conspiracy that those in power use that same media for control. it's not a conspiracy that those in power, prefer to stay there.
if you understand people on a basic level, you understand everything that entails. what i don't understand, is why people continually deny the obvious. fear? most likely. complacence? very likely. safety? that could be a factor as well, if they truly understand who they're up against.
That is why I said:
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There is no conspiracy, this is the way of politics.
Simply put, there has been a perfect blend of ease of access, sensationalism, polarization, the ability to virtue-signal, access the moral high ground, etc. for this all to take hold. Nowdays, you have this idea that idealism, altruism and whatnot is the way to go. But is it? Personally, I wouldn't say so. Call me bitter, or whatever you like, but I gave up on the notion that humans are good-natured by default. When **** hits the fan, ideals will not stop bullets or bombs.
WW1 is an example that comes to mind. When it began, there was a general sense that it would be the war to end all wars. Soldiers went into conflict with such high hopes of heroism and valor only to return home shell-shocked, mangled by artillery fire. And those are the ones that didn't die in the poison-filled, disease-ridden trenches. So no matter how optimistic they were at the start, the reality of war, the pragmatism and new tactics quickly revealed that it is ruthlessness that wins the war, not ideals. Point is, tweets and hashtags won't make a change when real trouble begins. Just like thoughts and prayers will not stop terrorist attacks from happening.
Now that this narrative has been put into place, people of course flock to it. The medias are milking their revenue off of it, and the able reap benefits of beguiling people into a "greater cause". The latter has been going on for millennia. It's just easier if there is an opposite side to direct the hate towards.
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Ghost said:
Door knob resembles anus tap.
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 23, 2021 04:07 PM |
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i'll have to give you two a more in-depth reply later, as i'm going to be very busy for today, and maybe for longer.
to put it short and sweet: you don't fully grasp the intent, and the scope of the intent, of those in power. what you both see as seperate things, is in fact one thing, done seperate ways. there is much more, than what you both are seeing. but it all boils down to knowing the nature of those in power, and what they do to retain that power.
also, trump did not represent republicans. he just used that ticket to gain power; as you cannot be president, without claiming one of the two controlled platforms.
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