|
| Thread: Unique Campaign Heroes mod |  This thread is pages long: 1 2 · NEXT» |
|
Unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
posted July 25, 2022 02:43 PM |
|
|
Unique Campaign Heroes mod
It always bothered me and surely many others aswell that the campaign heroes of the original homm 4 campaigns dont look like they are supposed to look.
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.
The first version will have Emilia and Gauldoth Halfdead as heroes:
https://imgur.com/gallery/rgn9f4l
As you see I did a lot of changes to them: Emilia no longer uses a Staff but a sword. It is meant to show that she is not an experienced mage like Magnus. This is further emphasized by her Spellanimation being rather cloudy instead of being clear and bright.
Emilia is almost finished.
Gauldoth needs a lot more work right now, but now he will be actually half dead and not ... dead.
While he wears the general outfit of a necromancer, his Robe is less black and more grey. This is meant to not only show that Gauldoth has been in the wild and appears more dusty but also it symbolizes his alignment that is not death or destruction in its purest form.
He also wears a hood to hide his visage though sometimes a read light still shines through.
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
baronus
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted July 29, 2022 11:21 AM |
|
Edited by baronus at 11:21, 29 Jul 2022.
|
Great! You are reading my mind! And I was just thinking to make a second alternative set of heroes! If you make your own, we will be able to use the H4Zero method and maybe for heroes and you don't have to! They look great! I'm delighted! If you like that I can only say.
We need more of this!
|
|
NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
|
|
posted July 29, 2022 12:48 PM |
|
Edited by NimoStar at 12:50, 29 Jul 2022.
|
Quote:
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.
Hey. I did change Cyra actors, made some pirates be pirates and so forth! And I made Emilia dress blue. Give me credit where it's due ; )
The idea of unique campaign heroes wasn't implemented in original H4, we could see that they had actually a emilia 3D model (you can see it in cinematic) but it wasn't rendered as hero.
I like your necromancer Gauldoth and think he could be a unit, your Emilia is a good effort but I don't like that she looks rather old  she was suppossed to be basically a teen
But any new actors are welcome.
____________
|
|
Unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted July 31, 2022 12:13 AM |
|
|
NimoStar said:
Quote:
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.
Hey. I did change Cyra actors, made some pirates be pirates and so forth! And I made Emilia dress blue. Give me credit where it's due ; )
The idea of unique campaign heroes wasn't implemented in original H4, we could see that they had actually a emilia 3D model (you can see it in cinematic) but it wasn't rendered as hero.
I like your necromancer Gauldoth and think he could be a unit, your Emilia is a good effort but I don't like that she looks rather old she was suppossed to be basically a teen
But any new actors are welcome.
Oh yes, that is true, the greatest mod and the ultimate mod had an implementation of species. Actually the way I am doing those new actors is not based on ultimate or greatest but it is actually based on another mod of yours: The creature heroes mod
My mod basicly uses creature heroes but without the creatures.
As for emilia, I am surprised she looks old to you. Now, I think it can not be seen in my screenshots but emilia is actually smaller in height than most heroes. However she still is towering over halflings and dwarves.
I would like to know what is the aesthetic element of her that evokes this effect of age.
I also have another showcase of the texturepack:
https://imgur.com/gallery/hFPrrfc
As you can see emilia now has deathanims and for Gauldoth ... well his meleeanim was a challenge to make.
You see, Gauldoth often had scenes where he uses brute physical force to overpower others in melee, yet he is also a magician. Long have I thought about how to combine that into an animation. And I kinda came up with an animation similar to the hand of death spell, where both the undead half of Gauldoth's body and his knowledge of the arcane is combined within a deadly burst.
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
|
|
posted July 31, 2022 08:52 PM |
|
|
To me, the effect of Emilia looking "old" is probably due to her white parts of clothing being similar and in the place of her hair, making it look like she has silver hair.
The one laying down is the most obvious
____________
|
|
dD_ShockTroop
Hired Hero
|
|
posted August 01, 2022 02:13 PM |
|
|
|
Loving the work so far! These two look amazing. Seems like whatever you cook up here is going to be an auto-include at the end of whatever stack of mods I'm running on HoMM4.
|
|
Unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted August 06, 2022 12:53 AM |
|
|
NimoStar said:
To me, the effect of Emilia looking "old" is probably due to her white parts of clothing being similar and in the place of her hair, making it look like she has silver hair.
The one laying down is the most obvious
Oh, never thought of that. Yeah maybe the veils are covering too much of her dark-brown hair, kinda making it feel more grey. That effect is especially true for the situations, in which we see her from behind since there little of her hair is revealed.
dD_ShockTroop said:
Loving the work so far! These two look amazing. Seems like whatever you cook up here is going to be an auto-include at the end of whatever stack of mods I'm running on HoMM4.
Thx! Glad you enjoy those hero-animations. Interesting, you run a stack of mods? If you want stack mods, and you want to keep this mod within multiple mods there might be some renaming required though.
If you want to know, how to combine this kind of mod with other mods, I can tell you a little bit about how it would work, since that information will not be included in the Readme.
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
Unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted August 06, 2022 08:29 PM |
|
|
Ok guys I have quite a nice showcse of animations:
https://imgur.com/gallery/7CqcdJB
This time we see more Gauldoth Hand-of-deathing but I also made a new castanimation. This same Animation will be used for Kallibarr aswell to symbolize that Gauldoth is his student.
The anim is basicly made of 3 meteorites in a circle, the circle represents eternity. When the meteors rotate, cosmic dust emmits into the middle and out of that dust a universe appears, before the animation ends.
I believe that this animation allows two main interpretations: The Kallibarristic one and the Gauldothian interpretation.
Where Gauldoth sees the cycle break, thus eternity break and a universe appear, it is a recognition of the universe's will that he, the most unlikely of us all, broke the cycle of eternity and is now a plaything of destiny. The universe that appears is therefore like a "master."
For Kalibarr the cycle is the cycle of death, which is eternal. When the meteors fall apart, the nihilistic Kalibarr sees it as a symbol of meaninglessness. Everything will eventually end in dust. Therefore the universe that appears out of that dust, is not a master like Gauldoth would see it but a mere posession. Not his posession, but death's posession.
Edit: Today the first version is released! It now only has Gauldoth and Emilia but more hero actors will come in soon. It is available for download here:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/unique-campaign-heroes
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
NimoStar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
|
|
posted August 08, 2022 11:56 PM |
|
|
Pretty cool. However, one thing is seeing a preview and another seeing it in action, so I will withhold final judgement until we have a release
____________
|
|
Unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted August 09, 2022 11:44 PM |
|
|
NimoStar said:
Pretty cool. However, one thing is seeing a preview and another seeing it in action, so I will withhold final judgement until we have a release
Kalibarr is not yet released but Emilia and Gauldoth are released.
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
karmakeld
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted October 03, 2022 09:13 PM |
|
|
Unknown_dark_g said:
It always bothered me and surely many others aswell that the campaign heroes of the original homm 4 campaigns dont look like they are supposed to look.
Gauldoth is not half-dead, Emilia appears as an annoying blond mage, all of the pirates arent pirates, Kalibarr is not decayed enough, Cyra is not even a medusa and Tharj's species got wrong aswell.
So since nobody ever did a mod yet, to change their actors, I decided to work on it myself.
The first version will have Emilia and Gauldoth Halfdead as heroes:
https://imgur.com/gallery/rgn9f4l
As you see I did a lot of changes to them: Emilia no longer uses a Staff but a sword. It is meant to show that she is not an experienced mage like Magnus. This is further emphasized by her Spellanimation being rather cloudy instead of being clear and bright.
Emilia is almost finished.
Gauldoth needs a lot more work right now, but now he will be actually half dead and not ... dead.
While he wears the general outfit of a necromancer, his Robe is less black and more grey. This is meant to not only show that Gauldoth has been in the wild and appears more dusty but also it symbolizes his alignment that is not death or destruction in its purest form.
He also wears a hood to hide his visage though sometimes a read light still shines through.
Great work Unknown, keep it up 
____________
|
|
unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted February 07, 2024 02:01 PM |
|
|
Alright guys! A new Version is out. Many might have wondered, where I went? Well, I had started with university, so I kinda became a little less productive.
Now however, I powered through and decided to expand my texture pack:
With Emilia and Gauldoth being finished, I decided to finally add a Villain aswell: This time the fearsome Kalibarr finally gets his own new lore-accurate appearance. He wields a waepon that was not meant for any mortal: The deadwood staff. Ready to show his former apprentice the true power of death magic, he can now be downloaded here aswell. Just put the file named "new.h4r" into your Data folder.
Changelog: Added Kalibarr combat actor.
Added Kalibarr actor sequences with new textures
Updated Heroes.H4d
I decided to make Kalibarr's spell animation similar to Gauldoth's spell anim to connect their skillset and emphasize that Gauldoth learned from him.
However Kalibarr does not have a hand of death type of melee animation like Gauldoth. The reasoning for this is, that I wanted to put an emphasiz on Kalibarr being physically far stronger than a half-lich like his apprentice, so I decided to make him terrifyingly quickly spin (In an almost Lightsaber-dueling fashion) his physical waepon: The legendary deadwood stuff, that is said to kill both the dead and the living.
Kalibarrs animations are also slightly inspired by the H6 Archlich, though his clothing is more similar to Bohb the Archmage of the Gathering Storm campaigns. However Kalibarr is more of a twisted version of Bohb, his face screams insanity and his robes are torn and a vampiric cape sums it all up.
You can view some preview images of an epic Gauldoth vs Kalibarr duel and download the new version here:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/unique-campaign-heroes/addons/unique-campaign-heroes-v10
Special thanks to Iliveinabox05, without his amazing creation, the resource editor and his supportive attitude towards arising problems, I would not have been able to make this one.
|
|
Karmakeld
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted February 08, 2024 05:02 PM |
|
|
Cool, will haveto take a look at this. Hope you decide to make other Campaign heroes this way, or perhaps contribute to adding Genevieve or Pherlon to Unity 
If I'm to give a feedback I would suggest to make Kalibarrs robe a bit less Bohb in color and perhaps look at the scale of the staff. You might want it to be big/high but propertions seems just a bit off. Minor details though, nice work.
____________
|
|
unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted February 10, 2024 03:52 PM |
|
|
Karmakeld said:
Cool, will haveto take a look at this. Hope you decide to make other Campaign heroes this way, or perhaps contribute to adding Genevieve or Pherlon to Unity
If I'm to give a feedback I would suggest to make Kalibarrs robe a bit less Bohb in color and perhaps look at the scale of the staff. You might want it to be big/high but propertions seems just a bit off. Minor details though, nice work.
Thanks for the feedback and the compliment, it means a lot to me. The problem with the staff was, that I actually made it via screenshotting the deadwood staff ingame XD. I then tried to make it a little more wood-like instead of pixel-like but it kinda didn't quite get the same resolution as Kalibarr.
I do however kinda like the Bohb-style robe with purple accents over a more purple robe with only the cyan accent, mainly because of how dark the black cape already is. The cyan of bohb's robes kinda makes for a great contrast, which is why I made him far less purple, then he was in that picture.
And yes, the plan is to eventually have all campaign heroes made into unique ones, just like the GT and WoW heroes. Currently working on Solmyr, with Gauldoth, Emilia and Kalibarr being already finished.
Regarding the Unity modding: I actually have no clue. I never used the Unity engine, I basicly only made Heroes 4 2D textures. I guess I have some idea of making sounds, but I have never tried anything in Unity so far.
|
|
Karmakeld
Responsible
Supreme Hero
|
|
posted February 10, 2024 04:28 PM |
|
|
You could use the Resource Editor to extract the actual artifact image, instead of editing a screenshoot.
Oh, no I dont mean the Unity engine, I mean the
Unity Campaign 
I'm curious if you could share a few screenshots of how you edit the skins/insert the heads etc.
Aslo would it be okay with you, if I include your hero skins in my object package? You will of course be credited.
____________
|
|
iliveinabox05
Honorable
Famous Hero
|
|
posted February 10, 2024 10:29 PM |
|
|
unknown_dark_g said:
Special thanks to Iliveinabox05, without his amazing creation, the resource editor and his supportive attitude towards arising problems, I would not have been able to make this one.
No problem man! Glad the resource editor helped out
And yeah, as Karmakeld mentioned, when we talk about Unity, we're talking about one of the Lost Tales of Axeoth written by terry Ray 
|
|
baronus
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted February 11, 2024 10:47 AM |
|
|
We have a lot of unique Heroes...
Lord Lysander
http://heroworld.gamerhome.com/artwork/h4interlude/life%20outro.jpg
Waerjak ! May be for Heroes 4 Chronicles because Tarnum look! I suggest HCh movies as base.
Solmyr...
Elwin and Shaera absolutely must have! Splashscreen for is Shaera is awful. Elwin ok.
http://heroworld.gamerhome.com/artwork/h4interlude/nature%20outro.jpg
Tawni Balfour ofcourse... We have beauty splashscreen with her look.
http://heroworld.gamerhome.com/artwork/h4interlude/chaos%20intro.jpg
I will take a lot of time to make unique look. Maybe more units?! :-)))
|
|
unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted February 12, 2024 01:18 PM |
|
|
iliveinabox05 said:
unknown_dark_g said:
Special thanks to Iliveinabox05, without his amazing creation, the resource editor and his supportive attitude towards arising problems, I would not have been able to make this one.
No problem man! Glad the resource editor helped out
And yeah, as Karmakeld mentioned, when we talk about Unity, we're talking about one of the Lost Tales of Axeoth written by terry Ray
Not sure, if I ever reach the quality standard required for that amazing project, but hey if you think, I can help you on something, you can message me in the discord, I will always try my best.
Now I am confused regarding the object package mentioned above by Karmakeld. I wanna say, I am actually pretty bad at height offsets, so if someone wants me to make adventure map objects, it's kinda random on whether the onject will work or not. (or are you refering to some other type of objects?)
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
unknown_dark_g
Hired Hero
heroes galopping in his heart
|
|
posted February 12, 2024 01:32 PM |
|
|
baronus said:
We have a lot of unique Heroes...
Lord Lysander
http://heroworld.gamerhome.com/artwork/h4interlude/life%20outro.jpg
Waerjak ! May be for Heroes 4 Chronicles because Tarnum look! I suggest HCh movies as base.
Solmyr...
Elwin and Shaera absolutely must have! Splashscreen for is Shaera is awful. Elwin ok.
http://heroworld.gamerhome.com/artwork/h4interlude/nature%20outro.jpg
Tawni Balfour ofcourse... We have beauty splashscreen with her look.
http://heroworld.gamerhome.com/artwork/h4interlude/chaos%20intro.jpg
I will take a lot of time to make unique look. Maybe more units?! :-)))
Hey thanks for the design research on the splashscreens, will come in handy as references. Solmyr is the one I am currently working on, yes. He will basicly be a mixture of the H3 Solmyr and the H4 Solmyr. (Though mostly the H4 Solmyr, I like him more )
I am also planning the Villains, you know Kalibarr is already finished, but Gavin Magnus, Sir Worton, Bonebreaker and Lord Harke, Captain Swift and Pete.
Minor Characters are also planned, such as Sir Kentaine, Cyrca the half-medusa, General Tharj.
As lowest on my priority list: (This would only be made, if the possibility appears to add a completely new hero to the game, one who basicly didn't exist yet)
The obscure heroes, such as the God of death, Old king Dreggar, the mermaid queen, Tawni's Lieutnant (sorry, forgot the name), Taddevan, Suraze.
However these last ones are probably not being added anytime soon.
____________
If death is worse then life then birth is is of all deeds the darkest. If life is inevitable then what is the purpose of the preverse?
|
|
baronus
Legendary Hero
|
|
posted February 12, 2024 05:44 PM |
|
|
Lets ser what we have?
...
mage female Agraynel life
...
mage male Bohb, order
mage male Mysterio, order
mage female Emilia, order
....
mage female Agraynel nature
archer male Erutan nature
...
barbarian male Dogwoggle Might
barbarian male Mongo Might
...
wizard male Kozuss, chaos
wizard male Spazz, chaos
...
mage male Hexis, death
mage male Tarkin, death
mage male Gauldoth, death
...
As you see we have a lot of male models. Death is hard to differentiate. Can be unisex. But rest must be other model.
We have a big defficit od female models. So Tawni Sheara Genevieve is a priority to ballance!
|
| |
|
|
