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TheBlackDragon
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posted May 30, 2001 02:44 AM

Neutral Creatures

This topic is about which netural creatures are the strongest and which HMM has the best.  Personally i think that HMM3 expansion has the best netural creatures and I think Azure Dragons are the coolest with freezing and fear modes.  I also seen that when people post ideas for creatures they are too strong well In this thread I think it would be great to come up with some neatural creatures for previous versions of HMM ( not HMM4 )  Tell me what you think and any ideas you have
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TheBlackDragon
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posted May 30, 2001 10:54 PM

I also think the Doppleganger would be a better netural creature than in a town.  It could be very strong and could also be entered in a campaign with work
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malkia
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posted May 31, 2001 12:38 AM

Azure dragons are great, but

but most usefull in some situations creature is DIAMOND or GOLD GOLEM - because they ressist magic where well - and in one map i've used them against lot's faires. Azure even that they are strong - they are not protected against magic.

And gold/diamond golems are good fist-fighters... hehe. I wonder why there was no campaign with some hero specialist with GOLEMS - that he can upgrade them into GOLD (by putting more gold) or DIAMOND (by using crystals or gems). Of course only for campaign...

Another usefull creature is THIEVE - have one in your army and you can get more information about enemy.

but if you have money (and I ussually don't except if there is 2 or 3 rampart towns) - then buy these "cheap" dragons - buy them.

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thunderknight
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posted May 31, 2001 09:51 AM

Golems

I agree with malkia that golems are quite interesting units. I remember in a player made map (Titanic Pride ???), you have to face an AI hero with stat like (1 1 99 99) !!!
I have to accumulate horde of golems to bring that guy down.

But I think the most unbalanced neutral unit is ghost.

My favorite neutral is faery dragon. It is too cute to kill.

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TheBlackDragon
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posted May 31, 2001 02:09 PM

LOL yeah they are cute but I also think Golems are great to use to and all the Elementals are cool.  The Azure Dragon would be the best though.  What Neatural creatures are in the first HMM? I never played it.  I also like Crystal Dragons too and Haflings are so funny looking
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ghostofdeath
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posted June 03, 2001 06:37 AM

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how come after homm1 they get rid of peasents?
ive also noticed that ghosts are almost impossible to kill.

mess with the best and youll die like the rest
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Galahad
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posted June 03, 2001 10:30 PM

Thieves are useful, at least in the beginning to see if those lots of vampires are 20 or 49.
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Yarg
Yarg


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posted June 03, 2001 10:41 PM

can a thief give more info than a rogue?

and are ghosts anywhere in homm3, or only in previous versions?  i get the feeling that there is an awful lot in AB that i am missing out on.

i have only SoD and clash of the dragons.  is there a conflux town in any of those scenarios?  i finished clash and didn't encounter any, and they are not available in the SoD map editor.

and my connection speed is so woefully slow that downloading a map is hardly thinkable.

is there anything else from AB that i might be unaware of?
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Henl86
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posted June 04, 2001 04:14 AM

Yup, that was Titanic pride(One of my favourite single player maps), but it wasn`t a guy, it was a witch... I didn`t beat her with golems, I beat her with brute force
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rogue
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posted June 05, 2001 07:56 PM

Peasants were in heroes 2 and Heroes 3 also.

heroes 1's neutral creatures...  I know there were rogues, but they looked a lot like the Hamburgler from those old McDonald's commercials. They would typically attack you when you try to pick up an artifact.

I think there were also Nomads in heroes 1, but I'm not sure.

In Heroes 2, Genies were my favorite neutral creature. Hmm... even Medusas were neutral in that game... but most of the neutral creatures in Heroes 2 belong to one town or another in Heroes 3.

In Heroes 3, I like having rogues to spy on enemy armies, but I wish their movement was 7 instead of 6. Rogue will be a class in Heroes IV, so I guess they won't be a creature anymore. There might be something similar though.
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thunderknight
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posted June 06, 2001 11:20 AM

Rogue, yup, rogue is a neutral in h1. Nomad as well. Other h1 neutrals include genie and ghost. Genies are very cool in h1, it seems that they have a much higher chance to destroy half army than in h2 (though I don't test it). The graphic of genie in h1 is also more interesting..... I miss it.

Henl86, have u also tried Angelic Pride ???

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blak_dragon
blak_dragon


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posted June 11, 2001 04:32 AM

u know ghosts have a weakness because there low on defence and hp

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rogue
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posted June 11, 2001 04:28 PM

Yeah, ghosts aren't that strong, but against an equally strong, (or slightly stronger), army the Ghosts will win, because they will keep coming back and making more.

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TheBlackDragon
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posted July 04, 2001 04:33 AM

If there had to be a best new netural creatures I would have to say gods liek Sun Of Ray and things like that  if there where any
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Coldfyrius
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posted July 04, 2001 05:09 AM

I say the more neutral creatures the better.  Since there'll only be 48 in-town creatures, that means we can easily add another 48 nuetrals.  Are you with me?
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TheBlackDragon
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posted July 04, 2001 04:42 PM

The more diffucuilty the better for me
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Stranger
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posted March 17, 2006 09:46 PM

Best neutral creature is ......

Azure dragon , or crystal dragon or some dragon  i think . Well life goes on ...... maybe
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supersonic
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posted March 17, 2006 10:00 PM

Enchanters r da bomb! With their spellcasting, these guys allow you not to focus on magic, but on brute force. If you have stacks of enchanters and genies, then you may as well forget about sellbook. They'll do the job.

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Xarfax111
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posted March 17, 2006 10:36 PM

Stranger would you please stop spamming the library?
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supersonic
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posted March 17, 2006 10:42 PM

Well, all the dragons are cool. "But life goes on...maybe"
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Maybe it's just my luck, but enchanters seem to be casting the most useful spell when you need them. When I was fighting with golems, and needed much firepower to batter them before they advance, enchanters casted mass slow. Strange...

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