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Lews_Therin
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posted November 26, 2003 07:27 AM |
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No need ... in the contrary, I think it was a good point that you made, and I just slightly modified my first post by a few words .
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Wolfman
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posted November 26, 2003 01:27 PM |
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Some of your arguments didn't make sense after what I said, so the whole argument got out of wack. All I wanted was you to aknowledge the ccontinuous stream of insults. They have no place in a civilized debate. Let's get back on topic and drop the whole thing.
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privatehudson
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posted November 26, 2003 02:44 PM |
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Quote: Some of your arguments didn't make sense after what I said
Oh? Which precisely?
Quote: so the whole argument got out of wack
Agreed.
Quote: All I wanted was you to aknowledge the ccontinuous stream of insults
Which I have done, shall I though expect you to acknowledge that you were incorrect about my lack of posting re British involvement amongst other matters or shall I not?
Quote: They have no place in a civilized debate
That was my point partly also, people missing my constantly stated point meant it ceased to be a debate, it became a repetition of my opinion to defend something I really had no need to defend. IE it was no debate.
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Wolfman
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posted November 26, 2003 10:57 PM |
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Quote: Oh? Which precisely?
Oh, no, that whole debate is over. If I were to post what didn't make sense, it would blow up again. It is done, never to be touched on again.
Quote: I though expect you to acknowledge that you were incorrect about my lack of posting re British involvement amongst other matters or shall I not?
I can't do that, we weren't even talking about the same thing. You posted something in responce to something that didn't make sense to my train of thought, to which I posted something that didn't make sense to yours. We misunderstood each other. Tempers flared. It just went downhill from there. It was bad, enough said.
Next topic.
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privatehudson
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posted November 27, 2003 04:40 AM |
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As I thought, never mind, I had expected higher of you, next time I shall know different, next topic
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Wolfman
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posted November 27, 2003 05:39 AM |
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I can't admit to something that doesn't make any sense. You expected higher of me...
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vesuvius
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posted November 27, 2003 05:58 AM |
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posted November 27, 2003 06:04 AM |
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So 75 pages later...has anyone changed their mind
Wolfman...I was not implying you by any means, when I stated that I have many times felt as if people were not listening to the points being made....it gets a little ridiculous... I am sure from every side...thus I needed a step away....a much needed step away from the dog chasing it's tail debates.
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Wolfman
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posted November 27, 2003 06:10 AM |
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I noticed you stepped away for 25 or so pages, we missed you! I felt alone, then Khayman came...and left, and now your back.
Nice pic Vesuvius.
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privatehudson
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posted November 27, 2003 07:02 AM |
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I had dropped it, you've now raised it twice since I last posted and without logical reason the second time. Who isn't "dropping it?" and continually remarking on a comment the other made here I ask you? That would be YOU. If you want it dropped I suggest you actually stop referring to it, otherwise it is yourself who is dragging it back on topic with your constant attempts to justify your poor replies earlier.
I repeat, I was prepared to leave it at that, I would not have replied to your first, pre Vesuvius image remark. I am not the one bringing it back to the fore, that is you. I therefore shall not be remarking on this topic again because I have no interest in repeating myself or in continuing the conversation with you. If you wish the topic "dropped" then it is now entirely in your power to "drop" it. I suggest that this time you actually use that power.
Edit: I thank you for removing the second remark by editing your post after I replied.
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Wolfman
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posted November 27, 2003 06:12 PM |
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No problem, glad to do it.
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Lews_Therin
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posted November 28, 2003 03:23 AM |
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Quote: No problem, glad to do it.
I didn´t read your post in time, Wolfman. What was it that you were so friendly to edit away after PH replied?
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consis
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posted December 11, 2003 04:04 AM |
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Make the Bed then sleep in it
Well here we are.
We've attacked Iraq, crushed the government, killed thousands of people, and freed a country from a brutal dictatorship.
Yesterday two United states soldiers came home in body bags.
Today on the news three more United States soldiers came home in body bags.
I don't feel like a hero.
I don't feel like I saved a people from a horrible ruthless monster.
I don't see any weapons of mass destruction.
I see a few loyal well-fed Sadam supporters fighting an American occupation of a country that has as many hospitals as I have fingers and toes.Most of which have been looted to the point of an obselete existence.
Where is our honor?
Where, now, are the family members of the soldiers who died in Iraq?
The bed is made. I lie down in it. But I can't sleep.
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Wolfman
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posted December 11, 2003 04:31 AM |
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Honor? You want to talk about honor?
Where’s our honor?
- Set up a functioning democracy in a war raged country
- Set up functioning schools and hospitals, and funded them unlike the previous government in Iraq
- Let surrendering Iraqis live
- Set up new currency (minus the face of Saddam)
Iraqi honor
- Pretends to surrender then ambush our troops
- Blow up public works in Baghdad
- Blow up mosques during prayer
- Kill fellow Iraqis
- Blowing themselves up at checkpoints wounding/killing soldiers
Around 90 percent of the citizens of Iraq are happy that the US had the initiative to get in there and get that bloodthirsty dictator out of power. That same 90 percent want us to stay another year to get the country back on its feet.
Security has recently picked up in Iraq, stopped recent suicide bombers from killing anyone (other than themselves)
Captured Fedayeen leaders
Honor
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posted December 11, 2003 05:21 AM |
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Quote: I see a few loyal well-fed Sadam supporters fighting an American occupation of a country that has as many hospitals as I have fingers and toes.Most of which have been looted to the point of an obselete existence.
The key word here being "few." Saddam only has loyal followers because they either so intensely admire him that they are willing to overlook the mass killings that the dictator has brought upon his own people or they are so afraid of him that they do not want to mess with him and his loyal army from the first category I mentioned. I have little doubt that when the war is truly over, we will find that Americans had much more support from the Iraqis than previously conlcluded.
Americans (and other free countries, as well), instead of griping about the war in Iraq and criticizing Bush for having allowed the war to go on, should be glad that they even have the right to criticize and oppose the choices that the president makes. If we ended this war today, the Iraqis would likely never have that right that we have all become so accustomed to. Wanting to deny them that right is much more selfish, I think, than trying to help them obtain it.
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Lews_Therin
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posted December 11, 2003 07:54 AM |
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Yes, honor!
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Lews_Therin
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posted December 11, 2003 08:05 AM |
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Quote: That same 90 percent want us to stay another year to get the country back on its feet.
Is it true that this Al-Sahaf guy has been hired by Fox?
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posted December 11, 2003 02:06 PM |
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from the Washington Times
Combined dispatches Dec 6 2003
via Instapundit
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20031206-120933-1854r.htm
BAGHDAD — Up to 1,000 Iraqis, including children orphaned by the war that ousted Saddam Hussein, marched through Baghdad yesterday to denounce guerrilla attacks and show support for U.S.-led occupation forces.
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posted December 11, 2003 03:35 PM |
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So, by the "90%" statistic, (where was that figure found, by the way?) the population of Iraq is ~1111?
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madmartigan
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posted December 11, 2003 08:11 PM |
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