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Xenophanes
Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
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posted December 18, 2002 05:17 AM |
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I'm pretty sure that I'll like the Megadragons in the Winds of War Expansion, so I'll cast my vote right now for them in Heroes V.
I desperately want the Harpies back in the Asylum/Warlock town--whatever the parallel of that is going to be in Heroes V.
I would like to see the Lizardmen back, along with the Basilisks, or some other form of large lizard.
The Medusas need to have the cold, stony beauty look that they had in Heroes III.
The Nightmares need to sound less like my dog grunting(just kidding )
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Grythandril
Famous Hero
who is a Chaotic Wizard
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posted December 20, 2002 11:10 AM |
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I would like the Hydra to slither like in Previous as well as the medusas.
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted December 20, 2002 05:28 PM |
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Pegasus and Goblin should be returned. Dragon Golem should be replaced with Crystal Dragon - much more of a fantasy creature than that robot...
Also, maybe Dendroids should return one day.
3DO should at least exclude the medusa from the game, if it doesn't want to change her appearance.
The same for harpy. And make Sprites better looking, too.
DON'T ALLOW THE HAVEN CREATURES TO LEAVE! Except monk, they're all so great! The best-looking human units in the whiole series, and as far as I can see from the screenshots, the WoW Catapult will be like that too.
And for catapult and ballista - at last place someone to control them!! You don't make a Dragon Golem automatic, but Ballista moves and shoots manually somehow 
I'm now playing Might and Magic 3 and I faced some creatures that I never want to join the Heroes series. Like Candle Creek (please explain, how can a candle fight?!) or a Screamer (flying head that makes your heroes insane). If 3DO adds these into the game, I will... I even don't know what I will do. Turning Caneghem into a lich could be a good idea 
The worst thing is that it seems like 3DO is near the condition to add those into the game. That frenzied boar, or what's his name - it's just disasterous! Get 10 more such creatures and Heroes will no more be a fantasy game 
It doesn't apply to MegaDragon though - this is the one whom I am waiting for with great impatience.
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Xenophanes
Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
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posted December 21, 2002 05:58 AM |
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Careful what you say about the Megadragon, or Kelly_Bundy will start sending rather rude, immature IMs to you--like he/she/its doing to me right now
Actually, a flying head doesn't sound too bad...it would have to be some sort of ghostish thing, of course, and the name would have to change...
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted December 21, 2002 09:38 AM |
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Then what do you think about Plasmoids (I don't even know how to describe this monster - maybe bug, maybe some sort of ooze, green with red dots)? And there are much mor strange monsters in MM3, just play it and you'll see. Btw, the game is very interesting too - perhaps the only RPG i really like.
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Xenophanes
Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
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posted December 21, 2002 08:16 PM |
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Actually, I'm playing MM 7 right now, and there are enough wierd creatures in that to last me a lifetime: brass golems, sapphire oozes, and marble gargoyles. Woe betide us the day that creatures like those come into the Heroes series.
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Odvin
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted December 21, 2002 08:40 PM |
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Oh, already sapphire oozes! Just great
Maybe this is because Heroes is a more serious game and they cannot allow such strange things to be there. However, many H4 creatures are already strange. They replace Liches with Waspworts, Pegasi with Mantis... What for? Don't they like the creatures from HMM3?..
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Nakolnasadi
Hired Hero
and also a lord of cheaters!
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posted December 22, 2002 09:27 PM |
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What a question!
Return:
a) Gremlins (maybe upgrade from leprecauchs)
b) Azure dragons (i think were to?)
c) GoBLINs (just because they are cool? taditionical and GREEN!)
d) Katapulta (ground attack)
Make:
a) Fun
b) Cool
Monsters
AND HOMM5 Will be better than HOMM4
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I forget something....... oh! A cheats is cool!!!!
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god_boy
Known Hero
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posted January 25, 2003 04:10 AM |
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for heroes 5, i want real monsters. real monsters which look like the way they are described in the myth tales.
First of all. the gorgon was NOT a friggin cow.
In the story of Perseus, Medusa was a Gorgon. She had two immortal Gorgon sisters, Sthenno and Euryale. Because they are sisters, it is implied that a gorgon is therefore what we now call a medusa. Medusa was not a creature but rather the name of a creature. Also, the Medusa is not necessarily a hideously ugly woman, in fact, she was sometimes depicted with the face of a beautiful maiden in works such as Medusa Rondanini, with an expression of deep sorrow and snakes as her hair. I think i would prefer the medusa with the pretty face.
Second. The naga in H4 is obviously of an African origin. Nagas however came from the sanskrit word for Serpent, and is of Eastern Indian origin. The naga should therefore, look somewhat more indian, with perhaps pale blue skin like the indian gods. generally, i loved nagas more when they were in H3.
3. What the hell is a sea monster. if they were gonna make one, it might as well have been the Kraken from norse mythology, not some oversized Anglerfish.
4. The only place i've ever seen a giant mantis is from old hollywood horrors.
5. The leprecaun looks like its got something stuck up where the sun don't shine. It could also be the next mascot for the mardi gras.
6. Gogs and Magog were not demonic creatures, they were, in fact names, respectively, of a king and of his supposed kingdom, mentioned several times in the Book of Ezechiel, and once in the Apocalypse. There is another legend that Gog and Magog were the last survivors of the race of giants who were the original inhabitants of the land of "Albion". They were defeated by the Cornish king Brutus, who gave his name to the British Isles. Either way you look at it, i don't know how these names were twisted into flame throwing demons.
In short. i want some real monsters in heroes 5, not made up ones because nwc hasn't spent the time to do some research and find some real ones.
And why the hell does the orc have a pig nose? i've never seen one anywhere else except in h4.
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Djive
Honorable
Supreme Hero
Zapper of Toads
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posted January 25, 2003 10:42 AM |
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Edited By: Djive on 25 Jan 2003
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Lith_Maethor explained about Medusa and Grogons in another thread. Turns out Gorgon could also refer to Gorgoners.
Why the worry - thread
The sea monster is not bad at all. It looks plausible I'd say. The problem is not the picture but a scaling problem. You would expect the monster to be bigger on the battlefield.
The Mantis is very good also. There is nothing wrong with using giant insects for fantasy monsters.
The Leprechaun is not bad either, the looks it has is very plausible for a Leprechaun. Most people believe it walks a bit strangely, but taking only its static appearance into acount I'd say it looks fine.
NWC can probably not rip off monsters from other sources without breaking copyright rules.
See it this way: there is simply no way NWC can make all gamers happy with all creatures because different gamers have very different opinions on creatures.
If you want real monsters then don't complain on the Mantis. It and other giant insects have been used in comics and films before, so it is certainly a proper monster.
It's more important that the monster fits in with the race/town/alignment where it is placed than whether it's unique or a copy. The Manits fits in well in the preserve in heroes 4.
I have a feeling that the game should contain overall more creatures, the low numbers means that just a few bad animations will be more noticed.
A new game should contain perhaps 10% new monsters.
Well, I'd say just accept the pig nose. I've seen similar creatures. The orcs are supposed to look brutish and ugly and they do that. When it comes to the Orcs I'm far more against their assumed unnatural stance than their looks. The orcs have tusks like a wild boar so why not a similar snout?
Please allow the designers some liberty in their imagination.
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Grythandril
Famous Hero
who is a Chaotic Wizard
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posted January 29, 2003 04:30 PM |
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How about Giant Spiders?
They could inflict a 30% chance of inflicting poison during melee.
Also ranged attack of shooting webs to entangle the victim for 1 round.
More giant insects
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stargazer
Famous Hero
hero of order and life
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posted February 04, 2003 04:08 PM |
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For one they need to bring back pegesis and dendriod and put them some where.
2 they need to get the paliden back to his nice old home the same with the griffin but give it a #$!^*** makeover.
3 get rid of the inferno necrop mix just seperate them.and bring back linches, zombies, and and an un-dead angel or something.
and last they messed up the stronghold bring back the good old stonghold with some of these new stronghold creatures.
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kredort
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 04, 2003 07:27 PM |
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Bugs should not be in the homm series it is stupid and whats with that thing replacing litches. I think 3DO should go to a library and take out a couple books on ancient mythology.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted February 04, 2003 08:03 PM |
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Quote:
6. Gogs and Magog were not demonic creatures, they were, in fact names, respectively, of a king and of his supposed kingdom, mentioned several times in the Book of Ezechiel, and once in the Apocalypse. There is another legend that Gog and Magog were the last survivors of the race of giants who were the original inhabitants of the land of "Albion". They were defeated by the Cornish king Brutus, who gave his name to the British Isles. Either way you look at it, i don't know how these names were twisted into flame throwing demons.
Interesting. You care about such details that won't be noticed by most anyway. But noone cares about a more obvious mixup in H3. Just look up the word "devil" in the dictionary. Now do the same with "fiend". Now do the same with "imp". Being in a good mood I'll do the searching myself.
devil - n. 1. the spirit of evil; wicked spirit; cruel or mischievious person. the Devil - the supreme spirit of evil, Satan.
fiend - n. devil; very wicked or cruel person; (colloq.) person devoted to sth. (indicated by the word prefixed)
imp - n. child of the devil; little devil
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RyGuy
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 04, 2003 08:43 PM |
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Edited By: RyGuy on 4 Feb 2003
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Equality for all
First of all, I hope that they can make the creatures a little bit more equal when it comes down to it.. For example, its very disturbing to see a group of 25 medusas hit a stack of 10 hydras and see the stone gaze kill two or three of them.. or if you get a group of 25 genies that can kill a group of higher level creatures with magic before they can even get to the genie.. The mage? what happened there.. a great unit but no hitpoints/health whatsoever..lets see.... hmm oh yeah.. requirements for building units... in the nature castle... how ridiculous is it to build elves? Unless there is a crap load of wood hanging around you basically have no choice but go with white tigers.. which thankfully are still pretty good..
Also when giving options for the high level creatures, at least give viable options. I mean for the most part who would choose the hydras over the black dragons.. and who would choose the dragon golems over the titans? There really shouldnt be any question to it.. spells in the game were pretty cool except the nature spells.. they have got to have some other spells besides summoning.. at least something defensive or offensive besides creatures... yes they work but wow talk about boring after a while. Well, I hope they also bring back the rocs and some creatures of old.. get rid of the harpies.. they suck and also the ghosts.. they used to be the strongest creature..hehe like in H2 now they have become nothing.. to the point where there is no good excuse for having them.. Take care all you you good and evil doers..
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notmytohhandle
Known Hero
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posted February 07, 2003 03:35 PM |
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bring back the kick ass unit
WARTROLLS
i always liked em bastarsd and the endless ammo wasent all bad either .
/archie
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ramparter
Hired Hero
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posted February 08, 2003 10:02 PM |
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This is how I'd like to see the creatures in Heroes V-although I won't-:
Haven,Preserve,Academy like in heroes4
Necropolis Skeleton,zombie,lich,mummie,vampire,ghost,dread knight,bone dragon
Asylum Bandit,gnoll,medusa,minotaur,troll,wyvern,hydra,black dragon
Inferno imp,gog,cerberus,demon,efreeti,nightmare,devil,fire dragon
Stronghold goblin,orc,berserker,
wolf rider,ogre,cyclop,thunder bird,bohemoth
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted February 08, 2003 10:26 PM |
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kinda hard to pick units to have back when you havent seen the actual towns for the game?
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this_other_guy
Famous Hero
{0_o} heh...
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posted February 09, 2003 05:02 AM |
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what i would like to see are:
1. more awesome looking human units (Paladin maybe?)
2. no more mech units (dragon golem etc.)
3. Return of the Fortress town from Homm3
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Lordskeleton
Adventuring Hero
The really REALLY bad guy
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posted February 12, 2003 09:08 PM |
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Yay, all hail the "maninacan" crusader and NWC will have to make up their minds: either he's weilding a long sword, meaning he will also carry a Khazad-Dhúm gate-sized shield with a blocking skill (minotaurs blocking with axe? Impressive!). Or, give them a decent 3-handed sword with which to filée their catches (Vampire trying to flee, not a chance. Crusader cut right through it, Oh Yeah!).
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