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posted March 11, 2003 11:55 AM |
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LOL everyone, these are the two sides that will fight in the Iraq-Allies War.
ALLIES: USA, Great Britain, Australia, Israel, several other American loyalist countries
AXIS: Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, other Islamic extremist countries
Don't think that's too realistic..
well, the 'Allies' you mentioned are OK, but there's something not right in the 'Axis' part.
Iraq have no friends, at least not in terms of countries. Aghanistan is now the loyal hound of the US because of the 'liberation' (or at least, the central government is...), and the Palestine authoroties probably won't do anything that could piss of the Americans, since their hope for a Palestine State rests on the shoulders of the US.
As for the 'other Islamic extremist' countries: Iran is often counted as the foremost representant of this group, and they surely won't support Saddam(don't really like to call it Iraq, since only a few percents of the Iraqi citizens support this mad lunatic), because of the Iran-Iraq war in the 80's..
Saudi Arabia is semented into the path of the US, for some reason I don't know (I'm not an expert or anything..), and Pakistan are so afraid they'll be next in line that they're ready to sh!t their pants.
Turkey is a member of NATO, and supports the US.
In this first war, at least, ther will only be Iraq versus the might of the Americans and Allies (or lackeis, if you want...).
That's my opinion.
BTW, this Norwegian journalist claimed that Bush, Jr., were the new Hitler, but as another Norwegian juornalist later said, Bush isn't Hitler; he's trying to be Churchill...
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Apophis
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posted March 12, 2003 12:19 AM |
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BTW, this Norwegian journalist claimed that Bush, Jr., were the new Hitler, but as another Norwegian juornalist later said, Bush isn't Hitler; he's trying to be Churchill...
If Bush is the new Hitler then I'm Frank Sinatra. That loosie loosie loosie dude doesn't have Hitler's nerve, military genius and madness. Bush is attacking Iraq, Hitler attaked the whole world.
lol....norwegian journalist my a$$.
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posted March 12, 2003 12:29 AM |
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If Bush is the new Hitler then I'm Frank Sinatra. That loosie loosie loosie dude doesn't have Hitler's nerve, military genius and madness. Bush is attacking Iraq, Hitler attaked the whole world.
Well,yeap,Bush aint got what it takes to b Hitler.
But Hitler was no military genius!He was a brilliant speaker,mad psychopath and b'cuz of these two,a very powerful guy.He was infact a military idiot!He sucked at waging his war!If he had completed operation Barbarossa,he would have gained a precious advantage in the war!But he didn't!Instead he got greedy!After he failed to take Moskva,he began operation Blau,which was actually continuing operation Barbarossa,only looked slightly different cuz of the massive loss of troops and equipement after Barbarossa.
So there,Hitler was an idiot!
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Apophis
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posted March 12, 2003 01:17 AM |
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Dude, idiots can do many things but they cannot conquer almost a whole continent. Hitler had a few generals that were truly military genies but he was the one that took the final decisions. He wasn't an idiot he was just paranoic and mad.
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silx87
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posted March 12, 2003 10:39 AM |
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I know Hitler took the final decisions,that's why I think his an idiot!He had some good generals too.
Hitlers final decision was:"Abort operation Barbarossa!"
If he were a true genius,he would have foreseen his defeat in Russia and went to the Crimmean peninsula,for the oilwells!But he didn't!He was too greedy and too much an idiot to go and take the oilfields while he had the chance,but NO,he thought the Russians threatened him!
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Apophis
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posted March 13, 2003 06:56 PM |
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Hitler was forced to abort Barbarossa because the italians didn't conquer Greece. So some germans troops(from Barbarossa plan) were moved from the russian front to the greek front. So the original plan was change and that generated some kinda turmoil. That was one of the most important reason that made Barbarossa plan to fail. It wasn't Hitler's fault.
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posted March 14, 2003 06:28 PM |
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Oooooooooooooooooo time to join another debate methinks 
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Afghanistan? i thought the Taliban collapsed after they got their a$$es kicked in the war against terror
A classic example of not paying attention to facts, the taliban were beaten and driven into the hills, but they have not been destroyed by any stretch of the imagination. Attacks on other factions by taliban remnants are more than common even now, and there's no proof whatsoever that they are not biding their time until the anglo/americans have moved onto somewhere else.
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they don't even have an army! What are they gonna do- send legions of suicide bombers onto the battlefield and blow themselves up?
As mad as the tactic first sounds, this has some flawed logic to it, if you send bombers after Israel, Israel responds in kind...... arab world get's annoyed and tension increases against the west......
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Hitler's nerve, military genius and madness
Eh? Since when was hitler a millitary genius? He planned one major campaign that suceeded in France..... then screwed up barbarossa, stalingrad, Kursk, The Bulge, Africa, Normandy etc etc. The guy was a millitary failiure. He was far too fond of the "no surrender, no retreat order", messed up russia by concentrating on stalingrad, the south and leningrad and messed up the campaign in normandy by refusing to allow panzer deployment. The campaigns launched in his name were largely planned by the true geniuses, Rommel, Manstien, Guderein and Runstedt to name a few, all he did was take their advice (for once)
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That was one of the most important reason that made Barbarossa plan to fail. It wasn't Hitler's fault.
Yes, it was, he could have not launched the invasion that year, not launched it at all, etc etc He also picked italy as an ally....... bad idea for one. Barbarossa could still have suceeded if not for his maniacal devotion to target cities, his insane refusal to equip his army for winter war, or his ridiculous refusal to allow his men to retreat.
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posted March 15, 2003 09:08 PM |
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If Bush is the new Hitler then I'm Frank Sinatra. That loosie loosie loosie dude doesn't have Hitler's nerve, military genius and madness.
Well, I hate W as much as the next guy, but I should point out that, from a military genius point of view, is there any better strategy than getting your opponent to destroy a bunch of his weapons before you invade?
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posted March 15, 2003 09:21 PM |
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You people say Hitler was a mad psycho. I also heard other bad words about him. And what is the cause of all this?
Hitler was a vegetarian.
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posted March 17, 2003 10:58 PM |
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You people say Hitler was a mad psycho. I also heard other bad words about him. And what is the cause of all this?
Well, Hitler was really a mad psycho. He crazed for blood and battles and made his troops work 800% to achieve his goals, which led ultimately to his complete demise because he tried to blitzkrieg his enemy too quickly where he could have taken his time and advanced more slowly and strategically, then he would have won.
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privatehudson
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posted March 17, 2003 11:26 PM |
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Hitler was a vegetarian.
Actually hitler ate meat in ferocious amounts for extended periods, so much so that he had to spend just as long afterwards without meat, kinda binging basically. The vegatarian bit comes from people misunderstanding the situation and assuming that because he ate no meat for weeks on end that he didn't eat it at all.....
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posted September 21, 2009 06:13 PM |
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If there breaks out a WW 3 then we all gonna die
because every country uses nukes 
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posted September 21, 2009 06:14 PM |
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If there breaks out a WW 3 then we all gonna die
because every country uses nukes
Or everyone is afraid to use them in fear of retaliation 
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posted September 21, 2009 07:58 PM |
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Edited by baklava at 00:53, 22 Sep 2009.
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And when we all die you'll use thread necromancy to bring us back to life
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posted September 21, 2009 10:59 PM |
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Well, if WW3 is nukes... then I am on the winning side
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posted September 22, 2009 12:45 AM |
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Ww3 will not be a total devastation. A selected devastation. The U.N. was the first step of creating an imaginary union between countrys, but the core of it all is simple: rule the world under one flag. The flag wont be from U.S., wont be from Russia,nor China,nor any country. Patriotism is just a convenient feeling for these powerfull people who actually dont feel this way and only aim for power. So nationality does not matter in the world war III as countrys will fight a war that only benefits this strange group of people.
BTW i dont think many nukes will be launched as some people are really interested in living the day after it.
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posted September 22, 2009 12:51 AM |
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BTW i dont think many nukes will be launched as some people are really interested in living the day after it.
Let me refresh it a bit. Suppose you are in total war. The enemy is going to invade you and you recognize his superiority, but you remember you also have 1 million nukes (he has fewer). You try to threaten him, but he says he also has nukes to obliterate you in retaliation.
So now, do you forfeit? Do you give up? Or do you actually launch it if he dares to invade you?
If not, imagine the "enemy" now: he gets a nuke blast on his territory from you. What will he do? Clearly, if he doesn't use nukes back, he's gonna get obliterated.
ONE single nuke is thus enough to start total obliteration of both sides, provided they both have enough nukes.
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posted September 22, 2009 08:20 AM |
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BTW i dont think many nukes will be launched as some people are really interested in living the day after it.
Or no nukes will be used or all necessary to erase enemy.
@TheDeath
On the other side, think from the side of your opponent. He knows you have nukes. He knows, if he invade, then you use them. The war will become nuclear and with destructive consequences(doesn't matter who win). Does he want it? I believe not.
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posted September 22, 2009 08:24 AM |
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Mutual Assured Destruction is a powerful force for peace for countries that are at least semi-sane. For insane dictators it is not necessarily a factor.
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posted September 22, 2009 08:47 AM |
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Heh, and all this doesn't even factor in China. Who really is the super power of the day. As much as I am all for America and all that, in a 1 on 1 vs China we would lose..badly. In a non-atomic bomb war..whichever side China decides to back will win. Unless everybody else is on the other side.
China's standing army is as large as America's standing AND reserve combined.  .
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