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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Ves' help is required once again
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 09, 2003 11:57 PM

Ves' help is required once again

Ves, considering that we have so few clans (3 of them being inactive anyway) can you change that rule where you can't challenge a clan again, only after 3 finished clan games ... i was wondering if it's possible to make it 2 finished games, cause you can't get any games going here ...
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted March 10, 2003 01:11 AM

Valkyrica--what is your hurry?  The clan map is getting cobbled up fast enough as it is. You must be wanted the clan tourny to end in about 4-6 more weeks?

Or are you afraid other clans might catch up? lol.  The rules are working just fine.  Infact if any rules change I was gonna suggest that it be switched to ONLY 2 active clan wars be allowed to be going at 1 time.  Not 3.

Jinxer
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 10, 2003 02:23 AM

well soon enough you won't be able to play any clan wars because of the forefits and those clans sitting there doing nothing and the 3 finished clan wars rule, take us for example, we can only play 2 other clans which are engaged in 3 wars already and that means i have to wait 3,4 weeks before getting another challenge, i don't think that wait is benefactory for anyone ...

and with that catching thing ... we can't help it if there's nobody out there to stop us, I mean when we started we had no bonuses, but all of you have seen to it that we have some now, so stop complaining about us being a powerhouse, how does hidden's clan look ? (starting order too ... ), youri's ...

All you have to do is play well, you and your teammates and you'll be a powerhouse too !

This is for Jinxer only : you got your chance to prove your clan's powers, playing on your map ...  
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted March 10, 2003 03:36 AM

Just because I made the map doesnt make me unstoppable on it.  LMAO.  My record on Genesis is something like 4-8 approx.  I just play to have fun.

And I think you took it a bit to personal.  I never complained about you being a powerhouse.  Any clan can stack there team with high ranked players and be a powerhouse. Its the clans with a range of talented players that can find a way to accel that impresses me.

But back on my point in previous post. By the catching up statement.  I simply ment that some clans have more time restrictions and there for cannot play and finish as many clan wars as your clan seems to beable to do.  So I ment that some of the less time fortunate clans might catch up if it was not as easy for you to just play 24/7 and run away with it.

Jinxer
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Joel
Joel


Adventuring Hero
An Underdog (Version 2.0)
posted March 10, 2003 04:03 AM

Hmmm, I have to agree with both of you.  

My life has gotten busy (until April at least) so trying to play 3 wars at once is difficult at the moment. But having to sit and wait for another clan to get freed up would be frustrating.

Maybe we should try to come up with ways to make more clans?  

(Yeah, I'm tired right now, that's why I'm not making sense.)
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 10, 2003 04:53 AM

Yeah Jinxer I see what you mean, but it doesn't make sense, you say that if some of you don't have enough time to play then all of us should cut back on playing, which is, excuse my saying so, but i couldn't find another word, stupid ...

Why did you join the clans then ? I have no quarrel with you, i respect you for who you are and what you do, but still, you are making no sense

why punish the active ones ( there are so few of us anyway) ?
if you don't have time to play that is ok, but complaining that we have a bunch of artifacts  and that we are going too fast ?


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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted March 10, 2003 05:06 AM

Again I dont recall seeing any mention about your artifacts. Quit putting words in my mouth.  And noone is trying to cut your back.  I have plenty of time to play. However I do not have time to play 24/7 .  


The answer to gaining more clans....is simple. All the clans that are stacked with all Barons Legionaires and Lords should split up and make there own clans.  Seems....{ let me see if I can come up with right word here}  STUPID to complain of lack of clans and have your clan stacked with all members that could go create more clans lol.  There are not that many Baron + players.  Most of the are stacked onto 3 different clans lol


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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 10, 2003 05:12 AM

Once again i tell you, maybe you don't recall, but when i started this clan i was the only baron in it, the others were either footmen or squires, and now we have grown and feel comfortable playing together, that can happen to any clan here ... why should we be any different ?
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Magus_Rex
Magus_Rex


Hired Hero
posted March 10, 2003 06:59 AM

A suggestion, would be when A player becomes a Emperor he must start his own clan and can not be under someone elses control.  Kind of what an Emperor is, a leader.  As there are no emperors now it wont make any changes but I think a few people in your Clan will be soon. Out a 6 lords 3 are in your clan, and SHK is not far behind.  I agree with you when you started you were the only baron. You have a great clan very strong, and you should not be penalized for playing with other great players but once people reach Emperor maybe it is time to lead a clan. Then they care share there knowledge with other people and make it more compatative.  For me it is funner to play against someone who is better or equal then with someone who doesn't know some of the basics.  Anytime I beat someone I give pointers on what I think they could have done better.  Winning is great but good honest competetion is better.

Just a thought

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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 10, 2003 08:19 AM

I agree Magus, but my point was, as i was a baron (and a weak one) and i had footmen and squires in it, the same can happen to every clan there ... so CONCENTRATE people and promote yourselves
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted March 10, 2003 09:16 AM

no more new rules -- but an older rule...

but a hint:
I am barely keeping up with all my updates, and cannot keep track of what clan has played what how long ago.  

But since some people dont know what a hint is:
A fact:
At this point with the general level of activity of homm4, that rule val mentioned is not enforced at this time.
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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


Known Hero
posted March 10, 2003 05:51 PM

Yeah, Magus proposal is very good but not useable. Think of this : me and the teacher will be emperors. And we have to make our own clans. But what about the lands we fought for and won them ? How we should split the lands ? And what about speciality ? Maybe I like to play Metalurgy - Bowmaster... and the teacher too. So how can be 3 clans Metalurgy - Bowmaster ? How do u resolve such problems Magus ? About powerhouses : I think the first powerhouse was Wisdom empire (when they started Hidden was legionnaire and the other were barons). I was footman when i joined my clan, the theacher was squire.

So there is a solution for u all guys who think we r a powerhouse : LEARN THE GAME !!!! LEARN HOW TO PLAY FIRST AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE OTHERS WHO KNOW HOW TO PLAY
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valkyrica
valkyrica


Supreme Hero
posted March 10, 2003 05:54 PM

Quote:

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THE OTHERS WHO KNOW HOW TO PLAY


i don't think he's having me in mind here ...
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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted March 11, 2003 01:19 AM

Palm Seed attribute

So increase its limit radius to 20 squares? or leave at 10?
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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
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posted March 11, 2003 01:54 AM

leave it at 10 squares but word it like this.

Owner of palm tree seed can place palm tree anywhere ( + 10 squares radius) and Opponent gets to choose map.  






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AzureDragonTM
AzureDragonTM


Known Hero
posted March 11, 2003 01:57 AM

That way the palm tree will be useless. It would not be an artefact, just a curse . I mean the clan who gets it, will never choose their maps again. Come on people, think b4 u made posts

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Blue_Camel
Blue_Camel


Famous Hero
posted March 11, 2003 04:02 AM

i agree, that wont work.  opponent clan will just always pick a map like "if these walls" where there are no choke points so palm tree would be useless, indeed a curse.

And increasing the radius is dumb - 20 squares from enemy town can often be 60-70% of the map
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Magus_Rex
Magus_Rex


Hired Hero
posted March 11, 2003 06:19 AM

1st of all I say 10 squares.

Next Azure is was a suggestion for discussion not a proposal I am a devils advocate I can argue both sides.  First as far as your concerns the clan leader keeps the lands won and the bonus, As far as choosing what type of clan whoever decides first and submits it to Ves will get the clan type first just like now.  

Allow me to retort myself, like I said earlier I do not think a clan should be penalized for being good and playing well together.  It is a tournament to see who is the best clan, and if every clan gets broken up when they are two strong there will never be a winner.

I just wanted to add to the discussion, on possibilities of adding more clans 8)

my two cents are free

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AzureDragontm
AzureDragontm


Known Hero
posted March 11, 2003 08:42 AM

Magus Rex one more thing to think about. Most of that lands were won mostly by the team not by clan leader (who losts far to many games ) and if I'm starting a new clan i will have to play with Valkyrica who have lots of bonuses won by me and the team. So I worked hard to won many lands, only to be forced to play against the arties from that lands ? I'm sure that a clans will stay same (so I'm starting a class teaching heroes 4 - 10$/2 hours sesion for u guys so scared about 3 lords in the same clan ).


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Magus_Rex
Magus_Rex


Hired Hero
posted March 11, 2003 09:01 AM

lol
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