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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: HMM3: Stronghold weakness?
Thread: HMM3: Stronghold weakness? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
wanderer
wanderer


Known Hero
Mercenary on Azure's Kingdom
posted April 27, 2003 09:31 PM

guys , stronghold sucks big big time , even more than fortress

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted April 28, 2003 04:28 PM

Dudes, wanderer sucks big time, even more than... Damn, there's noone to compare him to!

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tewilligar
tewilligar


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posted April 28, 2003 06:15 PM

stivin?  
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted April 28, 2003 07:35 PM

Oh. Right.

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wanderer
wanderer


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posted April 28, 2003 08:13 PM

lord wock? do we know each? I guess nope, so don't make affirmations that are not right and also don't be rude ok?
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WaY2HeLL
WaY2HeLL


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Grandmaster Wizard of HOMM3.5
posted April 29, 2003 08:28 PM

all towns are great and with everybody you can beat everybody
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Vortigern
Vortigern


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posted April 30, 2003 02:25 AM

Stronghold seems pretty good, but I usually avoid playing it myself because it doesn't appeal to me. Also, speed can be a problem with its creatures.
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WaY2HeLL
WaY2HeLL


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posted April 30, 2003 07:01 PM

stronghold is ok if you play defensivlly but if you wanna attack you must take some other race
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posted April 30, 2003 07:38 PM

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stronghold is ok if you play defensivlly but if you wanna attack you must take some other race


Are you serious man lol? Thats why Barbarians are the best attackers prolly, you must be right

Stronghold=Mass Haste and boom, thats their strenght, how do you wanna play defensive with those units and heroes?
Ok, if you built clops early maybe you can build them in and so, but i really didnt do that too often...with stronghold you wanna bring your hitpoint tanks and wolf raiders into the enemy lines and crush them!

Back to topic, weakness? Well is obvious, low creature speed = easy hit and runned or overhelmed by stuff like Mass Prayer and a attacking might hero.
Also troubles with taking over castles, but if you have some clops kings again its one of the best towns to do it.
I rate Stronghold very high on every map, since you always get your behs and its rare you dont get a good might hero.

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gorman
gorman


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Been around since before 2003
posted April 30, 2003 08:05 PM

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lord wock? do we know each? I guess nope, so don't make affirmations that are not right and also don't be rude ok?


LOOOLL at Wock! LOL Ok now Wanderer, it's Woock! Not Wock! LOL Anywayz, he's a pole so its understandable!
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WaY2HeLL
WaY2HeLL


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Grandmaster Wizard of HOMM3.5
posted April 30, 2003 10:26 PM

i am sorry i have been confused.i changed two type of cities which are for me the worst with conflux i game

my mistake

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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted April 30, 2003 11:29 PM

Wanderer, you complain about me saying that you suck without no particular reason. Well, I'm surprised by the fact that nobody flamed you when you said Stronghold sucks and didn't provide any good reasons. If you toss, get ready to get tossed .

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dreadknight
dreadknight

Tavern Dweller
posted May 01, 2003 02:10 AM

I think Roc is the soul of stronghold. develop rocs as soon as poossible, if having good luck, even u can end the game before behemoth.
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wanderer
wanderer


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posted May 01, 2003 04:21 AM
Edited By: Hexa on 1 May 2003

wook or wok or whut's ure name, whatever, I have only 1 word for you: you're an [deleted],. I never said this before in here since I am an active member, but your really deserve this distinction
now [deleted] me and get a life and learn to play heroes

Edited by Hexa: ease up on the language there buddy. Consider yourself warned!@
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dreadknight
dreadknight

Tavern Dweller
posted May 01, 2003 06:55 AM

Why I say roc is the soul of stronghold? not only because roc is the only fly creature of stronghold, but also roc is the necessary condition of behemoth, in 200% difficult, u can get wood and ore from initial creature of two heroes, but you must develop roc for your crystal, aren't you?
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zordrac
zordrac


Adventuring Hero
posted May 01, 2003 10:57 AM

Stronghold creatures are potent, and have few prerequisite non-creature buildings. Other castles require such things as Tavern (for Vampires in necro), Mage guild, Blacksmith and so forth. With Stronghold creatures you can just go straight through, and have all of your money on the creatures themselves.

Stronghold creatures are cheap and potent, and require few resources to build. Buying up to Behemoth Crag is the cheapest of all of the level 7 buildings, and should be able to be bought in week 1 in most games (even on Impossible difficulty). It is possible to get Hydra a day earlier, but Behemoths can be bought more quickly. Also, you can easily get all bar the Cyclops on week 1 (I very rarely manage to get the Cyclops on week 1).

This army will be up to twice as strong as those of other castles at the same period of time.

Stronghold creatures are number 1 for attacking, and great for castle raids. They are, however, fairly slow (as someone pointed out), which can make it difficult when opposing a big magic hero. You also rarely get much magic from Stronghold. You do, however, get very powerful heroes with bonuses like Magic Resistance fairly easily.

Stronghold doesn't really cope too well if you get to the stage of the full compliment of troops from, say, 3 months. You are therefore forced on the attack, and must kill stuff quickly and easily. They are good at taking over castles (probably the best on early turns), but not particularly great at defending them (compared to something like Necromancer, Fortress or Rampart). You are all out attack with the Stronghold.

If you like your magic, don't do it. But you should try it out occasionally so that you know how to handle people who use it.
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GrunanCross
GrunanCross


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posted May 01, 2003 11:17 AM

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this time i have to disagree the lowest costing lvl7 is the giants...but to get to them it does cost alot. Also i must add that the stronghold is one off the best if played by a master,it realy has few weaknesses...TIM
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted May 01, 2003 01:07 PM

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wook or wok or whut's ure name


Woock


I have only 1 word for you: you're an ass


Learn to count, man! That's three words .

Quote:
I never said this before in here since I am an active member, but your really deserve this distinction
now b**w me and get a life and learn to play heroes


Well, I am also an active member - if I wasn't how would I get my 6 yellow stars? It really does require a lot of activity you know. I have a nice life, thanks for caring. And I never ever said I'm good at playing HoMM - and I don't intend to, yet. But even being the n00b I am, I can recognise wannabe pro. You are one. Why do I say so? Because...

- you said that Stronghold sucks, not providing any reasons. Sure, it may have certain disadvantages, but. There lotsa people out there who can prove you otherwise. I'll believe that Stronghold sucks once you win against Kuma, him playing Stronghold.
- wannabe pros are a tad oversensitive. They act like they want to be offended. I made a simple joke about your post, and you start a flamewar. WTH?

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gorman
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posted May 01, 2003 07:44 PM

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Quote:
wook or wok or whut's ure name


Woock


I have only 1 word for you: you're an ass


Learn to count, man! That's three words .

Quote:
I never said this before in here since I am an active member, but your really deserve this distinction
now b**w me and get a life and learn to play heroes


Well, I am also an active member - if I wasn't how would I get my 6 yellow stars? It really does require a lot of activity you know. I have a nice life, thanks for caring. And I never ever said I'm good at playing HoMM - and I don't intend to, yet. But even being the n00b I am, I can recognise wannabe pro. You are one. Why do I say so? Because...

- you said that Stronghold sucks, not providing any reasons. Sure, it may have certain disadvantages, but. There lotsa people out there who can prove you otherwise. I'll believe that Stronghold sucks once you win against Kuma, him playing Stronghold.
- wannabe pros are a tad oversensitive. They act like they want to be offended. I made a simple joke about your post, and you start a flamewar. WTH?


*polite applause for Woock*
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted May 01, 2003 10:05 PM

Thank you.

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