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Blue_Camel
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posted April 11, 2003 06:31 AM |
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New Map - Under the Bridge
Here it is - my latest map "Under the Bridge"
http://homm.strategy-gaming.com/maps/underthebridge.h4c
Description: There are numerous ways to your opponent. All save a few lie under the bridge, some farther under than others... Will you take the bridge, or look for other ways?
Take a look and give me some comments 
However be warned - as bacharakis has already pointed out, this map is not easy to understand just by looking at the editor 
But basically, and yeah the description pretty much says it in a nutshell, there's several ways to get to your opponent. The path of least resistance lies in going over the bridge, which stretches from one corner of the map to the other. However it takes 5-6 days to get across the bridge... so there are obvious implications from that, i.e. you might get attacked while making the trip over, or even if you have an advantage when you start the trip over, your opponent will see you crossing the bridge days in advance and have tons of time to prepare. But there are numerous other ways, which may turn out to be better. One is simply to kill 1 of 3 large L4 stacks. Another is to kill the mermaids in the sea underground. Another is through a portal which is guarded by L3's and then get in a boat which is guarded by mantises.
There are other goodies as well, which you will hafto find for yourself.
Have fun talking to camels 
BC
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted April 11, 2003 07:20 AM |
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WOW!!!
I have to say Camel, this map looks amazing. So far from your description it has all the goodies I was hoping to see in new designed maps. This map looks very complex, but I like those. I was so sick of maps with 1 or 2 choke points. This gives several options and you never know where to expect your opponent.
Also it looks amazing. The details and mass amount of stuff is mind boggling. It takes me forever to make maps, and I dont put near as much stuff. I say Congrats! Now I havent played it yet so cannot say how well it plays, but I give it a A+ on looks.
Now in your description you didnt mention. When is projected meeting with opponent? With all that map and possibities to the map it would be a shame to beable to be at opponents door early week 4.
Makes my new map I am making look like childs play lol.
Jinxer
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted April 11, 2003 03:41 PM |
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Now in your description you didnt mention. When is projected meeting with opponent? With all that map and possibities to the map it would be a shame to beable to be at opponents door early week 4.
One of the reasons i didnt mention that is that it's totally dependent on how you play it. If you wanna play it like a closed, you can try to grab everything you can in your area before going for opponent, which could take a while. Or if you wanna try to rush, you can use the bridge, or maybe the water way underground. Thing is, if you do try to rush, you may be just killing yourself, since it takes a while to use the bridge, thus giving opponent plenty of time to prepare.
Also, regarding the many events around the map - most of them involve luck to some degree. For instance, the first "hole" you visit - Blue Camel's Hole - you have a 40% chance to get 2000 exp, 30% chance to get 1000 gold + 2 of merc, cryst, gems, sulf, 20% chance to get cart of lumber and ore, 10% chance to get 5000 exp. And the other holes are similar.
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valkyrica
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posted April 11, 2003 05:28 PM |
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do we have to smell the blue camel as well ? i could do that for 10k experience, no less !
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 12, 2003 01:56 AM |
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yesss
me likes camel hole
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zud
Promising
Famous Hero
box worshipper
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posted April 12, 2003 08:40 AM |
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looks like sumthin wrong
when i pick green i get 1 starting hero next to castle, when I pick teal i get 3 starting heroes, 2 in different areas of map, 1 by castle, and 1 hero i carrying 500 black dragons. seems a bit unbalanced
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Psychobabble
Known Hero
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posted April 12, 2003 08:44 AM |
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when i pick green i get 1 starting hero next to castle, when I pick teal i get 3 starting heroes, 2 in different areas of map, 1 by castle, and 1 hero i carrying 500 black dragons. seems a bit unbalanced
Methinks he left his testing heroes in the map
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted April 12, 2003 07:20 PM |
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zud
Promising
Famous Hero
box worshipper
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posted April 13, 2003 07:02 AM |
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Edited By: zud on 13 Apr 2003
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first thoughts
not bad so far, wish the mines didnt have to be built tho. if not regular guarded mines at least mebe change em to abandoned.
also playin teal color, when i build a boat in town shipyard. I cant get on it. need to add some land or sumthin to reach where it puts it.
map too tight, many places blocked on water and land. cant get to gold mine south of teals town. go thu water stairs and then blocked, back thru stairs and blocked from where u just were cant move. your really need to clean map up and make it a bit easier to move around imho b4 this map can be posted.
also going thru one way portal north of teal town, I couldnt move anywhere once i went thru it, terrain blocks where im guessing u should be able to walk to fight. as it is now, its a dead end.
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Blue_Camel
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posted April 13, 2003 11:59 PM |
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not bad so far, wish the mines didnt have to be built tho. if not regular guarded mines at least mebe change em to abandoned.
also playin teal color, when i build a boat in town shipyard. I cant get on it. need to add some land or sumthin to reach where it puts it.
map too tight, many places blocked on water and land. cant get to gold mine south of teals town. go thu water stairs and then blocked, back thru stairs and blocked from where u just were cant move. your really need to clean map up and make it a bit easier to move around imho b4 this map can be posted.
also going thru one way portal north of teal town, I couldnt move anywhere once i went thru it, terrain blocks where im guessing u should be able to walk to fight. as it is now, its a dead end.
Ok, I'll try to fix the ship prob. About the gold mine, you arent supposed to be able to reach it by land - you hafto come through the sub-gate by ship to get to it. About being blocked after water stairs - you'll hafto be more specific - there's about 12 water sub-gates or "stairs". And I couldve sworn that the last thing you mentioned wasnt blocked. Ah the value of someone besides yourself testing the map... too bad I didnt have that :-( Next time I'll ask around a bit more.
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted April 15, 2003 06:32 AM |
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i played the first ten days with green seems ok i think i like ::
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zud
Promising
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posted April 15, 2003 10:28 AM |
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Edited By: zud on 15 Apr 2003
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more comments
playtested 1.1 a bit
was green this time,
had no access to war university on snow near starting town.
also could not get on boat built in underground town for green.
noticed also that for teal there are some lvl 3's guarding an art at bridge to second town above ground. they block access to 2nd town. green did not have this problem.
still the little rocks all over a pain, but I really like map so far
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Blue_Camel
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posted April 15, 2003 03:22 PM |
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yeah, after i released and 100 bugs were found, i made a resolution that next map i will wait and have fully tested before releasing. I guess I got a little overconfident in my "mapseeing skills" (seeing bugs in map editor w/out having to playtest) after i released shallow and it had ZERO bugs. And that is what i intend to do with under the bridge - i will wait until all bugs are found before releasing 1.1 version
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted April 19, 2003 12:42 AM |
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every map has some bugs in it so don't worry camel you will finally get to post it on toh
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Blue_Camel
Famous Hero
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posted April 22, 2003 04:42 AM |
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so what does everyone think, should I post 1.1 version now or not? I ask so that i dont hafto take blame if i hafto send ves a version 1.2
yay or nay?
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balcough_dra...
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unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted April 22, 2003 05:30 AM |
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to late for that your a camel its always your fault
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insatiable
Supreme Hero
Ultimate N00bidity
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posted April 22, 2003 08:45 AM |
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nobody cares camel
stop bothering us
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Blue_Camel
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posted April 23, 2003 02:53 AM |
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ok, ive sent version 1.1 to ves. hopefully it will be up on the maps page to download soon I spent 1.5 weeks on patching it... (well most of time was waiting for zud and jinxer to progress in their game on it so they can give me feedback ) so there should be no need for a 1.2 version. (unless a balance problem, not a bug, is found)
Cheers,
BC
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valkyrica
Supreme Hero
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posted April 23, 2003 04:29 AM |
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Cheers,
BC
you watch that show ? just goes to show what a softy you are
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balcough_dra...
Supreme Hero
unlucky? i want to pump you up
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posted April 23, 2003 04:31 AM |
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valky 's online to night
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