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LordTitan
LordTitan


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posted July 02, 2003 04:20 PM

Age of Wonders?

I just remembered a old thing in some M&M game.

There used to be this time where power was the thing that everybody had, there was laser guns and rocket blasters and all kinds of stuff. But then some sort of cataclisim happend and the world started over,
shouldn't there be any sort of relics from the Wonder ages?
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Wildbear
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posted July 02, 2003 04:47 PM
Edited By: Wildbear on 2 Jul 2003

I think it could have been in Armageddon's Blade, but you know what happened. Most players don't even know about those stories, the Ancients, the space shuttles... If you try to tell people about this, they'll start flaming. I've been waiting for those things to come back, but it never happened.
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LordTitan
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posted July 02, 2003 10:47 PM

It was explained in one of the Might and Magics like I said incase any of you were wondering.


Hmmm... space shuttles...
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Wildbear
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posted July 02, 2003 11:02 PM

I don't remember it well
It was in M&M3 I think :/
They used the shuttles to travel from Terra to Xeen, but I still don't understand how they came from Xeen to Enroth :|
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LordTitan
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posted July 03, 2003 02:00 AM

I just checed, but the box doesn't realy tell you.
It's either M&M 3 4 or 5.
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posted July 03, 2003 02:05 AM
Edited By: IYY on 2 Jul 2003

Play Might and Magic 7 to see these relics. Around the end of the game you are able to recover ancient laser guns (avaliable in pistol and rifle forms) and learn the appropriate skills from the wizards in Baracada (or the necromancers in the pit).

There is an entire quest there with a submarine and some sort of droids you have to destroy. Weird stuff.

Here's a screenshot of an inventory with guns in it




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Vlaad
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posted July 03, 2003 11:51 AM

Ugh. I hate SF in my fantasy!
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this_other_guy
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posted July 03, 2003 12:05 PM

WTF??? LASERS GUNS IN M&M ?????

What the hell is the meaning of all this???

Sci-Fi does not mix with fantasy!!!
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Wildbear
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posted July 03, 2003 02:51 PM

It does, much more than "new fans" of m&m games could imagine. Look at all final fantasy games and most rpgs, there are ancient machines in most of those games, what you call science fiction is the past in many games, and it is the past in the m&m universe.
Another example, look what happens in Heroes Chronicles and you'll understand the game is still in the same universe : the Ancients decide what happens to Tarnum, they could decide to give him a laser gun, but the "new fans" would never accept this.

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LordTitan
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posted July 03, 2003 02:57 PM

The guns look, dumb.

The thing is I want a super-relic in HOMM like that, but it looks better, see?
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posted July 04, 2003 06:32 AM

In MM6 there was this level (i think it was the oracle) where there were flying robots called enfocers.  And the robots (enfocer and terminators) could kill you in one shot with there lasers.  Then you could only get healed in a super temple.  The robots really made me made.  The entire game i was fighting against goblins, orges, peasants and dragons.  Wtf was with the robots.
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LordTitan
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posted July 04, 2003 07:36 PM

They should put the robots and stuff in HOMM.
But if you put down a random monster, you hafe to choose either:
No magical monsters, only robots and stuff.
No robots, just magical creatures.
or
Both.
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posted July 05, 2003 05:28 AM
Edited By: this_other_guy on 5 Jul 2003

HoMM should not be sci-fi!
Thats why the Forge got rejected!

EDIT: here's a pic of the MM7 Sentinel Droid.


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Vlaad


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ghost of the past
posted July 05, 2003 10:12 AM

Well, it doesn't look worse than the Dragon Golem. Maybe the WoG team could include it into 3.59 patch?
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LordTitan
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posted July 06, 2003 02:13 AM

Wow, those robots look better than I thought.

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Wildbear
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posted July 06, 2003 03:45 AM

Who knows ? Maybe the dragon golem was supposed to be one of those Sentinel Droids. I really can't understand why so many people want to remove the tech part from that universe, I'm sure nwc would implement it perfectly with the rest of the game, it would not even look strange to fight with unicorns against those rusty robots, I'm sure they could do it. Why don't so many fans trust in nwc's capacity to make a great game even with those parts of the universe ?
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posted July 06, 2003 03:57 AM

It looks alright but it's still gonna be weird to fight against those droids... I mean while you shoot puny little arrows at them, they fire their high tech laser blasters back at you and turn you into charcoal in less than a second...
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posted July 06, 2003 04:02 AM

Quote:
It looks alright but it's still gonna be weird to fight against those droids... I mean while you shoot puny little arrows at them, they fire their high tech laser blasters back at you and turn you into charcoal in less than a second...


Yeah, that's approximatly how it is in Might and Magic 7. But don't forget that you could say the same about arrows against dragonfire or the titans' lightning bolts. As high level creatures, there is no problem with the robots and we could even use that one in WOG.
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Wildbear
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posted July 06, 2003 04:15 AM

That's exactly the wrong statement of people who tell they don't want to see robots in the game. Those robots are supposed to be hundreds, maybe thousands years old, their lasers could be unusable, faulty or weak. They couldn't be in a town, they would not be more than guardians in some ancient "temples". Also, as seen on those pictures, they're not different from the dragon golem (remember how the dragon golem was introduced in the game, nwc was certainly thinking about those droids when they created the dragon golem).
Machines don't always have missiles or laser guns, of course, it would require a lot of design work to put them in the game without breaking the fantasy, but many new creatures in H3 and H4 are not pure fantasy creatures, and they look good.
People usually think robots in a game will be too strong, but robots are only graphics, if you give a robot the stats of a peasant, he won't be stronger.
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posted July 06, 2003 04:24 AM

Quote:
HoMM should not be sci-fi!
Thats why the Forge got rejected!

I was enraged when I got news that Forge was being removed from the game! That army looked so cool! Sure, they were a little on the futuristic side, but they could have been toned down, they didn't have to be removed. I was really looking forward to playing as them too.
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