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rychenroller
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posted July 16, 2003 11:15 AM |
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I guess I had the Extreme mindset Mike hehe, gotta pray for slow/earth on that B@stard  (or gundula, geon, voy  )
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Hexa
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posted July 16, 2003 11:23 AM |
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Yeah EXTREME without slow is as bad as for example GW or SD3 without slow/earth!@ 
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Pollo2002
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posted July 16, 2003 02:07 PM |
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On any closed template...
mass slow is the best cleaner, too bad closed maps are all about cleaning.....
Really if one got earth magic expert and slow ,and the other doesn't...well somebody is on a HUUUUUUUUUGE problem
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haile73
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 16, 2003 03:08 PM |
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SD3 without slow/earth!@
hear, hear, the fixed map specialist speaking
while mass slow / exp. earth is always handy, you don't need it THAT urgently on sd3, since some of the crucial spots are guarded by dragons. Without black orb, mass slow won't help anything there (exp ress is the killer of course).
If you absolutely don't get earth magic offered, it's time for a little improvisation: build level 2 guilds (you want blind/quicksand; bolts when air/water orb present) and fodder, fodder, fodder: find a cleric and level him up a bit (good diplo chance), explore every witch hut (should be done anyways), creatures from 2nd/3rd town/camps, summon elemental spell (water book). If it still ain't enough for more than 3 big fights vs. level 7s, rush the hell outta the opponent
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Hexa
Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted July 17, 2003 09:03 AM |
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Edited By: Hexa on 17 Jul 2003
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OK ok I guess I should have used Quote:
from zone and in game
.. but I thought that would look weird.
*Goes and hides in a dark corner now before that mean old haile slaps him with his INFAMOUS WISDOM again!@ *
Edit: although I think it is true for GW .right?
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 21, 2003 05:04 PM |
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Grindan is better than Gelare, but I still think Aenain and Brissa have him beat. I prefer hasting my guys rather than slowing their guys, but that just fits my style. As for Tower, I usually pick Torosar, actually.
This doesnt make sense...You want to use a magic hero, but you would prefer a mass haste to mass slow. Surely the first priority of a magic based her would be to stop the might hero on the other side of the map from reaching your troops and engaging them hand to hand, hence mass slow is your priority. What are you going to do with you hasted creatures? attack? I dont think so. With that style of play, you would be better off with mass prayer, although it would still more than likely fail.
I know it's unorthodox, but the Conflux units seem way too good to just let them sit there while your magic hero casts spells. A hasted Magic Elemental can do wonders. He can get into the center of a pack of enemies and nail 'em.
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Sir_Stiven
Honorable
Legendary Hero
banned
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posted July 21, 2003 06:59 PM |
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hmmm wouldnt that be kinda tough since magic elementals are spell immune?
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 21, 2003 07:18 PM |
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Sorry, wasn't thinking.
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted July 21, 2003 10:44 PM |
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... nor playing...
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 21, 2003 10:52 PM |
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Look, it's been awhile since I've played HoMM 3. HoMM 4 is infinitely better anyway. The Conflux is also not a town I'm familiar with since whenever I play someone, we agree on no Conflux or Necropolis. So I've no reason to memorize all the abilities of each unit in an army I rarely play or play against. Magic Elementals aren't the fastest sixth level, not that there slow, though, so I figured the Haste-Magic Elemental combo would be good, especially with Brissa and her excellent profiency.
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kuma
Promising
Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
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posted July 22, 2003 10:53 AM |
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conclusion?
So basicly u had no idea what u were talking about?
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 23, 2003 12:46 AM |
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In the case of the Magic Elemental, maybe, but that doesn't mean I don't know what I was talking about in general. Aenain really is the best Elementalist. Geez, I made ONE, SINGAL mistake, and everyone acts like I've never played before.
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lord_crusader
Promising
Supreme Hero
UHU!! supreme!
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posted July 23, 2003 01:29 AM |
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Brissa is better than any other elementalist... the hast ability is very helpful, with this hero you have a lot of advantage, is better cast mass haste than masss slow because the mass haste is affected for the espelicality of this heroe, and is really rocks... I'm totall disagree with thinkin that any hero who gives you some money is the best hero, because you can use a heroe with a speciallity like brissa o ciele, and you can recreuit all this money heroes from the tavern and have it all them like a secondary heroes
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 23, 2003 04:14 AM |
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I use Grindan as a Garrison Hero. I'm not sure if you recieve the benefits of his special while he's garrisoned, but the slow makes early attackers an easier ordeal.
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LichKing
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Known Hero
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posted July 23, 2003 05:03 AM |
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Ciele (super magic arrow) or the two money makers (Gelare and Grindan) are my usual choice for elementalists. However, I think all elementalists are useful (maybe except Luna).
Damacon_Ace, I have to strongly disagree with your feelings about Luna. I'd never use a magic hero for my main if I had the opportunity to hire almost any of the game's might heroes (the exceptions being Dessa or Gundy), but for flagging mines, grabbing resources and picking up assorted arts I think that Luna is a monster.
If you wanna know why I feel this way, then look here.
But this is only my opinion, and we all know the lowdown about opinions........ Of course, it's always easy to load up a map and find out for yourself
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I
Famous Hero
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posted July 23, 2003 09:16 AM |
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Ciele is da best, I mean 2/3 chests and u may have a 100 dmg out of low mana cost spell!
I remember that when I was able to play Ciele, I knocked down most of 5th lvls or some 6th lvls at 1st week, and even some 5-9 non upgraded 7ths. Besides If u have cash u can kill a throng with hit & runs at 1st week. Dunno How about u but I really would like more Ciele with 10-15 S.Power 20k exp at the end of 1st week or 15k gold more than else standard heroes.
Would happily argue with someone who thinks this is impossible.
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 24, 2003 01:27 AM |
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Through much experimentation, I have determined that I prefer Grindan over Brissa. The frustration factor enhances him greatly. In the early game, I was slowing my opponent's units and running circles around him with sprites. After week two, he had given up from sheer frustration. He was swearing and everything. It gave me a wonderful feeling of satisfaction.
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Xarfax111
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
The last hero standing
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posted July 24, 2003 06:24 PM |
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..woooooow...ouch...this girl is tough!!
Luna makes at least 3 times 200 damage on lvl3-4...if u know how to use it its the death of any pack of behemots!!...and that at a very early stadium!!
..didnt expected that one!
Xarfax1
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Aquaman333
Famous Hero
of the seven seas
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posted July 24, 2003 08:21 PM |
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She loses effectiveness once human players enter your area though. Firewall is fine and dandy if all your are using Luna is to flag mines and take dwellings, but if an enemy comes near, you should turn around and let Pasis take care of things.
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Draco
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 24, 2003 08:42 PM |
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Luna can be good even against humans, although not as effective, humans have a tendancy (at least the ones i played against) to take as little damage possible immediately, so if you place a firewall covering your archers, the human opponant will just attack others leaving your archers to do their damage. or they will attack archers taking on at least a few casualties. even lvl 7 units will die to a 500 dmg expert firewall.
it is as effective usually as the spell forcefield, and can save you against slow walking units the human may have or low level units.
what if the battlefield is devided in 2 passageways and your fighting slow walking units, you have time to put 2 maybe 3 layers of firewall at the top entrance, what will the human player do? they will start walking south. then you can put a couple there. all this time your archers are destroying them. this tactic costs little, only 6 sp per round.
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