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Sir_Kaban
Sir_Kaban

Tavern Dweller
posted July 20, 2003 02:52 PM

My final decision

Yesterday I decided to leave Tournament of Honor. There are some reasons for this decision.  The main reason is that Heroes 3 is only game, but atmosphere around tournament and between some players is too unfriendly, so I decide to go away. During the “king” Vesuvius time, attitude to Russian players was far away from kind. Now it seems to me that nothing changed from old times. I don’t like at all looking at rooms something about Russians on American slang. I don’t like at all getting private messages with dirty profanity (There you can see screenshots: http://587-10g.by.ru/killa1.jpg & http://587-10g.by.ru/killa2.jpg). Not only Americans, but everybody should understand that opinion about the nation forms also from such people like Killa. Also I don’t understand how is it possible to accuse me in 3(!) different ways of cheating after game was saved & still unfinished (There is screenshot: http://587-10g.by.ru/killa3.jpg). That clearly shows that he at least looked save. Also seems really strange to build all magic in inferno & get resurrection instead of already built 3lvl magic in born rampart (for Gold Dragons). During final battle accuse that I use trainer for increasing luck of my lizards (!!!) sounds stupid. But I’m really sick of all that! Everybody remembers that a lot of Russian players were removed from ToH only because some “kings” hate Russians. Also it’s very funny to hear that all Russians are millionaires and use 2 comps (I’ll clear you big mystery: Antal & Flamingo had one comp for a both.. lol..) But be sure, that Killa will be in ToH forever, because he’s American & it means that under protection. All old players remember how Frank was caught of viewing saves, but wasn’t removed.. lol.. I guess, u know why. That can’t be named differently than politics of 2 standards. I hope that playing fun games with friends and maybe some other tournaments I’ll be out far away from this dirt.
With best regards,

Simply Kaban
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coaie
coaie


Known Hero
Dirty MoFo
posted July 20, 2003 03:42 PM

one of the most honorable opponents i played with kaban (we have an unfinished one in HL) and about watching saves i think almost all the top players do it. (very strange thing about that inferno lol ).

We must remember also that ugly_woolf was booted from toh after admiting he watched saves of an unfinished game with killa_bee so we all expect killa will be also booted he he he.

And now my solution for viewing saves (crazy one):
 
- of course this cannot be done in every game but in the most important ones legionaries lords emperors
- a remote administration program server must be launched at the beginning of the game and a coulpe of guys ( honour council member or so can check now and then if that guy is copying or sharing any saves)
 

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Divine_Master
Divine_Master


Hired Hero
posted July 20, 2003 06:33 PM
Edited By: Divine_Master on 20 Jul 2003

Quote:
Yesterday I decided to leave Tournament of Honor. There are some reasons for this decision.  The main reason is that Heroes 3 is only game, but atmosphere around tournament and between some players is too unfriendly, so I decide to go away. During the “king” Vesuvius time, attitude to Russian players was far away from kind. Now it seems to me that nothing changed from old times. I don’t like at all looking at rooms something about Russians on American slang. I don’t like at all getting private messages with dirty profanity (There you can see screenshots: http://587-10g.by.ru/killa1.jpg & http://587-10g.by.ru/killa2.jpg). Not only Americans, but everybody should understand that opinion about the nation forms also from such people like Killa. Also I don’t understand how is it possible to accuse me in 3(!) different ways of cheating after game was saved & still unfinished (There is screenshot: http://587-10g.by.ru/killa3.jpg). That clearly shows that he at least looked save. Also seems really strange to build all magic in inferno & get resurrection instead of already built 3lvl magic in born rampart (for Gold Dragons). During final battle accuse that I use trainer for increasing luck of my lizards (!!!) sounds stupid. But I’m really sick of all that! Everybody remembers that a lot of Russian players were removed from ToH only because some “kings” hate Russians. Also it’s very funny to hear that all Russians are millionaires and use 2 comps (I’ll clear you big mystery: Antal & Flamingo had one comp for a both.. lol..) But be sure, that Killa will be in ToH forever, because he’s American & it means that under protection. All old players remember how Frank was caught of viewing saves, but wasn’t removed.. lol.. I guess, u know why. That can’t be named differently than politics of 2 standards. I hope that playing fun games with friends and maybe some other tournaments I’ll be out far away from this dirt.
With best regards,

Simply Kaban

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Just wanna make one thing crystal-clear,
no person is under my protection of any kind  !

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bpanik2
bpanik2


posted July 20, 2003 08:32 PM

Well since you decided that the entire toh is against russians because of 1 person,lets set the facts strait and remeber you put this here,1st the save which you refer too i looked at,if killa was cheating i would think he wouldve build necro guild and got chain because he had access too the air orb,2ndly why would he take inferno guild all the way too lvl 5 knowing it was fire lemets not implosion or even earth elements,he had no fire magic.3rdly i do beleive he was searching for armagedon as you know its available on that map what better place than inferno too look,and lastly,why in gods name would he even bother with guilds knowing you had the recanters cloak lol no i think not,i know exactly why you have decided too leave toh dare we put that here too killa has an attide problem yes we  all know that but if he hates russians so much why is he extremely nice too floriel? and also  the info he had on his room i told him too plz remove it and he did you witnessed that yourself.you wanna leave toh well thats fine but dont blame or cloud the issues with racist lies.bpanik2
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tewilligar
tewilligar


Famous Hero
Just another willigar
posted July 20, 2003 09:50 PM

Quote:
Well since you decided that the entire toh is against russians because of 1 person,lets set the facts strait and remeber you put this here,1st the save which you refer too i looked at,if killa was cheating i would think he wouldve build necro guild and got chain because he had access too the air orb,2ndly why would he take inferno guild all the way too lvl 5 knowing it was fire lemets not implosion or even earth elements,he had no fire magic.3rdly i do beleive he was searching for armagedon as you know its available on that map what better place than inferno too look,and lastly,why in gods name would he even bother with guilds knowing you had the recanters cloak lol no i think not,i know exactly why you have decided too leave toh dare we put that here too killa has an attide problem yes we  all know that but if he hates russians so much why is he extremely nice too floriel? and also  the info he had on his room i told him too plz remove it and he did you witnessed that yourself.you wanna leave toh well thats fine but dont blame or cloud the issues with racist lies.bpanik2


 well put,nothing to add here except my agreement to the above
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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted July 20, 2003 10:20 PM

hmmmm

it does concern me that bpanik and tewillllllllligar only can view this from 1 point!!!

well it have always been like this with toh... either you agree with em or else your out

See, Sir Kaban... i know you from game.. and we had very great games... and honorable too... on other hand.. i know killa from some bad attitude situations and to be honest i dont understand as you do... why people just seem to oversee this...

To bpanik: now what you say is very strong and valid comments.. but they also to obviuous...

Turn this around for once.... and lets decline that killa did look save...

why he build inferno town instead of the requested level 3 and 4 guild in rampart? you say cause of hope of armageddon... but you know as much as me that ressurection is far more important for game early than armageddon... and why go for armageddon... if you dont have golddragons?

so you say... why he not build necro then.. .for chainlightning and the possible air orb?
what good is chainlighting... when he need to kill tough army like dragons (gold/blacks) ? do put this in the situation of that he did knew that opponent had recanters... so as i see it... the only and only one spell killa would have use of in that game... was ressurection.

Now, i dont say sir_kaban or killa is telling thruth... maybe killa was lucky... hell we know heroes is lucky game... so i beleive that... but i do beleive that sir kaban does hold much more honor than killa does.

So all i can say to sir_kaban... you wont be the first.. or the last!


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tewilligar
tewilligar


Famous Hero
Just another willigar
posted July 20, 2003 10:54 PM

 you know OME,you and i have been good friends for some time. lets keep it this way!

you do not know whole story from Kaban....just his side...we know other thigs which i refuse to discuss here.

as for killa,yes his attitude has gotten unbearable,let us handle this.
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Kuma
Kuma


Promising
Supreme Hero
u can type so much text in her
posted July 20, 2003 11:11 PM

I hate people from The southern part of Holland; let's ban Hexa!

(u think this is off-topic and ruining the serious part of this topic? Think again)
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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted July 20, 2003 11:22 PM

Tewilliar.. if you feel offended by my post.. i beleive its more your concern that mine!

as for both side of stories.. i beleive that only thing that killa can say is "f... you" or "you bi..."

enuff said!!

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bpanik2
bpanik2


posted July 20, 2003 11:41 PM

well ome in the save i was sent he did have golds so why wouldnt he look for arma v nasty looking taz?
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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted July 20, 2003 11:44 PM

as for about the game entire itself, I have no idea about outcome. I have no idea about what thoose players "did" say to eachother". Bpanik ... you can put tons question to my "defend" of sir_kaban.. and you will prolly think that therefore im not entitled to have oppinion.

But then tell me... who does?

im just flipping the coin!

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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted July 20, 2003 11:48 PM

came to my mind

was that savegame you mention... just before main battle?

cause if so.. i would 100% build golddragons for main fight.... vs. tazar?

what good is green dragons if recanters

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bpanik2
bpanik2


posted July 21, 2003 12:17 AM

lol omey i think ur a bit confused and is way too long too explain,bp and this my last comment on this issue.
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SapphireRavyn
SapphireRavyn


Promising
Famous Hero
Bird of Extreme Patience
posted July 21, 2003 01:08 AM

Quote:
was that savegame you mention... just before main battle?

cause if so.. i would 100% build golddragons for main fight.... vs. tazar?

what good is green dragons if recanters



Bp mentioned in the post before this one that Killa DID have Golddragons so why wouldn't he look for Armageddon. Bp's shorthand is just a little difficult to decipher at times, lol.
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bpanik2
bpanik2


posted July 21, 2003 01:22 AM

Well i admit, i aint the sharpest tool in da shed-ppp
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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted July 21, 2003 02:05 AM

well i didnt expect you to understand


for me i can say that ... i actually dont care about who had dragons or not... who cheated or not! play damn game!

my concern was more in the reply of HC member(toh) and his fellow companion


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Titan_888
Titan_888


Known Hero
Wind of Change
posted July 21, 2003 02:07 AM

btw.

anyone seen killa?

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Khayman_Toh
Khayman_Toh

Tavern Dweller
posted July 21, 2003 03:36 AM - penalty applied.

I'm absolutely agree with Sir_Kaban. Killa_Bee is just stupid little b*tch and his place is in cage with monkeys. He must be booten from toh n times! Killa_Bee simply licks Bpanik's ass, that's why he's still in toh.
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zud
zud


Promising
Famous Hero
box worshipper
posted July 21, 2003 03:40 AM

Obiously

Another weak person too chicken to post under their own name. also to impersonate a respected TOH member, even lower. should be deleted.... penalty and silence applied.
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Killa_Bee
Killa_Bee


Bad-mannered
Known Hero
posted July 21, 2003 04:17 AM

Don't hate the player, hate the game

My long awaited reply is here...

If you people want to believe that I look at saves then I really welcome you too.  I don't care what anyone thinks about me or my game.  I guarantee you if you ask anyone besides Sir Kaban, MAYBE 1 or 2 more ignorant people will think i cheat.  The 1 thing i'm proud of when it comes to heroes is not my skill, but by the fact that i've gotten this far playing fairly.

When you are a top player everyone is going to think you are a cheater, it comes natural... we in America call this term 'jealousy'....


I am not here to badmouth anybody, even though i'm surprised that Khayman and OME had something to say about me I will not say anything bad to you people because you do not know enough about the subject and I'll just label you too as immature as I am.  But I will selflessly give you the people these facts...

1.  I accused you, Kaban, of cheating first. It's only logical that in your defense will try to get everyone to think i cheat before they realize you are the cheater yourself...  The important people in tohknow that you are trying to

2.  I have nothing against Russians... and if anyone wants to believe i do, i dont really care what anyone thinks.  I keep in contact with Antal, give my regards to Alex_Killer whenever he shows up, and with my favorite girl in the world Floriell AKA my Russian princess.

3.  It's about time you leave because there is no way your going to pass me up in points.

4.  Bpanik has confronted me most about my zone attitude than any other HC or ToH member.

5.  I LOVE PORK FRIED RICE

THE CONCLUSION TO THIS EMAIL IS THIS...

I LOVE PORK FRIED RICE.

KILLA

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